D.C. needs to get a lot more car friendly

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

Yeah, once you pay me a research salary I'll do your googling for you. Like I said, of you pay attention to road safety you'd have seen plenty of reports of excessive speeding with speed camera citations for evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

Yeah, once you pay me a research salary I'll do your googling for you. Like I said, of you pay attention to road safety you'd have seen plenty of reports of excessive speeding with speed camera citations for evidence.

So to confirm, your claim that people are regularly going 60 MPH on DC roads is something that you just made up because you think it’s true but have no evidence that it’s true.

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Anonymous wrote:Interstates and ring roads obliterated almost every CBD in the United States, bar a small few - Manhattan being the only real exception - that retained some semblance of a public transportation system and pedestrian walkability.

But now car infrastructure is necessary to protect the same CBDs that they devastated? That’s really some Jedi mind trick shit. Go work for Boeing.

Do people come here straight from Mars without bothering to read anything about the history of the places they wax lyrical here. I knew DCUM was ridiculous, but this? Come on . . .

This is ahistorical and quite funny. I suppose that you wish more US cities were like Amsterdam? You may want to look at a map because Amsterdam has, you guessed it, a ring road. But yes, tell me more about how ring roads “devastated” cities.

It honestly seems quite evangelical how assured you are of your world view despite it being contrary to actual facts. You are welcome to have aesthetic preferences about your built environment, just as I do or anyone else. You are not welcome to invent your own facts.

Here’s some econometrics in case a legion of American historians can’t convince you: https://www.jstor.org/stable/25098858

The Quarterly Journal of Economics is, uh, not particularly easy to publish in.

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Undated version: https://repository.library.brown.edu/studio/item/bdr:6758/PDF/

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Anonymous wrote:Interstates and ring roads obliterated almost every CBD in the United States, bar a small few - Manhattan being the only real exception - that retained some semblance of a public transportation system and pedestrian walkability.

But now car infrastructure is necessary to protect the same CBDs that they devastated? That’s really some Jedi mind trick shit. Go work for Boeing.

Do people come here straight from Mars without bothering to read anything about the history of the places they wax lyrical here. I knew DCUM was ridiculous, but this? Come on . . .

This is ahistorical and quite funny. I suppose that you wish more US cities were like Amsterdam? You may want to look at a map because Amsterdam has, you guessed it, a ring road. But yes, tell me more about how ring roads “devastated” cities.

It honestly seems quite evangelical how assured you are of your world view despite it being contrary to actual facts. You are welcome to have aesthetic preferences about your built environment, just as I do or anyone else. You are not welcome to invent your own facts.

Here’s some econometrics in case a legion of American historians can’t convince you: https://www.jstor.org/stable/25098858

The Quarterly Journal of Economics is, uh, not particularly easy to publish in.

You made a very specific claim that ring roads “devastated” CBDs. I pointed out that there is a ring road in Amsterdam, which I thought was the gold standard for urbanism. So in response you google up some academic paper equivalent of a non sequiter. You clearly don’t have an idea what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

Yeah, once you pay me a research salary I'll do your googling for you. Like I said, of you pay attention to road safety you'd have seen plenty of reports of excessive speeding with speed camera citations for evidence.

So to confirm, your claim that people are regularly going 60 MPH on DC roads is something that you just made up because you think it’s true but have no evidence that it’s true.

Ok troll

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

Yeah, once you pay me a research salary I'll do your googling for you. Like I said, of you pay attention to road safety you'd have seen plenty of reports of excessive speeding with speed camera citations for evidence.

So to confirm, your claim that people are regularly going 60 MPH on DC roads is something that you just made up because you think it’s true but have no evidence that it’s true.

Ok troll

Interesting response to being challenged when making up facts. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

Speed cameras aren't objective anymore? Go back to kindergarten. You fail.

I’m not sure what you are taking about. Do you have evidence for your claims?

Yeah, once you pay me a research salary I'll do your googling for you. Like I said, of you pay attention to road safety you'd have seen plenty of reports of excessive speeding with speed camera citations for evidence.

So to confirm, your claim that people are regularly going 60 MPH on DC roads is something that you just made up because you think it’s true but have no evidence that it’s true.

Ok troll

Interesting response to being challenged when making up facts. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

You're just hitting all the DCUM top 10 troll responses. Pretty funny.

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They removed the reversible lane on Connecticut Ave. That's a big safety improvement.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

yes, improving public transit and creating urban amenities is exactly what eroded tax bases. Exactly! People really hate it.

Also I’m not sure why you are obsessed with “pedestrianized zones.” Some pedestrianized zones (aka parks and malls and plazas) are important amenities. but it’s also about making traffic slower & safer to share the roads.

You seem to not be paying attention or are being deliberately obtuse. Parks are great and important amenities in a city. What kills cities are making deliberate choices to reduce circulation of people, good and services. That’s your city’s economy.

Public transit reduces the circulation of people in a city? Huh.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

This is a joke. The only time of day this would be possible is 2 AM and your “objective evidence” is using your subjective eyes. LOL.

I guess you spend all your time on your cul-de-sac in Virginia. Those of us who actually live in DC see cars going down arterials at high rates of speed *all the time.* I see some dodo going 60 at least once every few weeks. And it is very common to see people going 20-25 over the limit - so 45-50 MPH - on thoroughfares like H St NE.

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

Why don’t you tell us precisely where on Georgia or 16th or any of these other streets people are going 60 mph? Which blocks, exactly? Because it’s fairly clear to the rest of us that you’re just making things up

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Anonymous wrote:I think DC needs to be less car friendly and charge cars to enter DC like London. Maryland drivers cut through my neighborhood speeding and ignoring stop signs. F**k commuters!! You have zero respect for Dc residents.

I agree 100%. My kids and I almost get mowed down by these jacka$$es on the regular just trying to get to school, doesn’t matter that we always cross with the walk sign/in the crosswalk the MD drivers have no respect for traffuc laws and would happily run over my kids if it means getting to work 2 minutes faster. F these people I’m so sick of DC bending over backwards to make them happy

As someone who lives near NIH, let me assure you that there is no state monopoly on inconsiderate commuters. I see plenty of DC drivers who exhibit selfish dangerous behavior all the time.

And DC is responsible for funneling commuter traffic onto residential streets. You want to keep commuters off the back streets? Reopen Beach Drive, fine double-parkers who turn main thoroughfares into one-way roads, and bring back the rush hour shift for Connecticut Avenue, and most of us who drive into our DC offices will stay on the arterial roads.

LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people

I am curious how much you will be LOLing as the commuters decide to stay away and the DC tax base suffers. The “rich” in DC just got one tax increase. That should give you a good indicator of where the DC government will make up shortfalls when revenues fall due to reduced commercial property tax revenue and lost sales tax.

What you will quickly learn is that it’s not just pedestrianized zones that cannot survive without people coming in regularly and spending their money, but this applies to whole cities too. Cities cannot survive without the daily free movement of goods, people and services that seem to offend your bourgeois liberal sensibilities.

You apocalyptic doom and gloomers are the best. Society isn’t going to collapse upon itself if cars can’t go 35 in a residential area

Driving arguments to extremes doesn’t seem like a great way to deal with issues. No, society will not collapse. What will happen is that you will be paying increasingly higher cost for worse services and poorer quality of life. I keep hearing this call for a “vibrant” city but the policy choices are really to suburbanize the city, which seems like the worst of both worlds.

When you say higher costs for worse services and poorer quality of life, that sounds like the deal we get with car dependency. You’re so close.

You must be a millennial because you clearly cannot imagine a low quality urban future of empty storefronts and low quality retail establishments.

What will be interesting is that it will be white flight to the cities that will destroy them. You want to turn your neighborhood into the cul de sac you grew up in. Cities however don’t work that way.

so let me get this straight: you need to be able to drive 60 MPH through DC’s residential neighborhoods, right to downtown, and then be able to roll up and park your car for free in front of Gallery Place to go to the movies? Or the zombie apocalypse will happen to DC?

Have you … even ever been to a city?

NP: There is no free parking (apart from Sundays) in DC. Parking is revenue generating for the city and it's now been vastly reduced. Who's driving 60 MPH. And if anyone ever does, why isn't it being enforced with points and tickets that would have a real impact on driving behavior (instead of cameras that don't issue any points for driving infractions)?

There are plenty of places where you can park free for a couple of hours. Do you ever leave K St?

And plenty of people hot 60 mph. Have you ever been on Georgia Ave? 16th St? The right hand parking lane when a responsible driver comes to a stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk but the person behind them is too important to wait?

There is no police traffic enforcement. They don't care. The best way to slow things down is to build roads that don't look like 8 lane highways.

Do you even live here? There is nowhere in DC where you can go 60 mph

For a long time. You've never seen someone doing 60 on a city road? Have you even visited here?

Which road can you drive 60 MPH on that’s not an interstate highway?

Georgia Ave
South Dakota Ave
16th St
Minnesota Ave
Southern Ave

There's objective evidence from speed cameras that people are doing this of you're too lazy to open your eyes, or if your home in Iowa is too far away to know.

Why don’t you tell us precisely where on Georgia or 16th or any of these other streets people are going 60 mph? Which blocks, exactly? Because it’s fairly clear to the rest of us that you’re just making things up

Very good logic. If someone doesn't quote a specific block then it can't be true. It's not like a general arterial has issues all up and down it.

Troll score: 2/10. Needs more work.