Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-european-officials-broach-topic-peace-negotiations-ukraine-sources-rcna123628

U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say
The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has become ridiculous. No new info or analysis, just trolls calling each other out and long ass newspaper quotes


As the war drags on and Ukraine gets destroyed and Russia inevitably wins this thread will get to 1000 pages.


The opposite

It’ll get very quiet (as it is now) as Ukraine fails



The only people posting Ukrainian propaganda anymore are people whose paycheck depends on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-european-officials-broach-topic-peace-negotiations-ukraine-sources-rcna123628

U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say
The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.

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This is a little late. Not sure Russia settles for anything short of Odessa now. Had they negotiated before they threw the army away in a "counter-offensive" they would have been in a much better negotiating position. Now Russia knows they are out of men, material and morale.
Anonymous
They lied... AGAIN!

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-european-officials-broach-topic-peace-negotiations-ukraine-sources-rcna123628

U.S., European officials broach topic of peace negotiations with Ukraine, sources say
The conversations have included very broad outlines of what Ukraine might need to give up to reach a deal with Russia.

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This is a little late. Not sure Russia settles for anything short of Odessa now. Had they negotiated before they threw the army away in a "counter-offensive" they would have been in a much better negotiating position. Now Russia knows they are out of men, material and morale.


Ridiculous. Russia does not have Odessa now, why would it be given to them? For that matter, Russia does not even control the Black Sea any longer.
Anonymous
So all this time the US knowingly supplies Ukraine with weapons they were unable to use due to unskilled soldiers.

"While the US and allies can provide Ukraine with weapons, "if they don't have competent forces to use them, it doesn't do a lot of good," they said."

What a waste of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Another money pit just like Israel.
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There is only one thing positive and refreshing about war. It can’t be stopped, affected or censored by liberal narrative control. The truth and reality is finally getting its day. The other area where truth and reality is in the beginning stages of taking control is in the economy and budget deficit. Inflation has emerged and the consequences are quickly taking spending power away from the censors and propaganda brigade in the government. The fake manipulated CPI which under-reports inflation by at least half isn’t stopping the bond vigilantes from realizing they aren’t going to get the same money they lend the government back and they have taken control of rate hikes.



Inflation has eased a lot. Are you posting from 2022? Also, the mendacity of the skilled Russian and Ukrainian spokespersons/propagandists has nothing to do with a liberal narrative. It's who they are.


Putin and the Russian Central Bank says it is, so why are you contradicting them?

Putin: "I once again draw the attention of the government and the Bank of Russia to the importance of effective, coordinated action to reduce inflation,"
"It directly affects the well-being of Russian families and our citizens,"
https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-urges-officials-to-act-as-inflation-rises-7f2aff3a

"The central bank has reacted aggressively to surging inflation, the falling ruble and the imminent increase in government spending. It hiked the base rate on Friday by two full percentage points, from 13% to 15%, and signalled there was little likelihood of rates coming back down again before spring or summer 2024."
https://en.thebell.io/central-bank-tips-economy-towards-recession-to-stem-inflation/


Oh, you're posting from Moscow. That explains it.

Sorry, I assumed you were posting from the US.


lol. You're funny. No, I'm being ironic.

Russian propagandists aren't permitted to contradict Putin or any official stance taken by Russian officials. So if Putin officially says, "there's inflation" there's inflation.

Notice how there was no argument? No witty retort? Nothing posted about Russia's inflation for two days?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So all this time the US knowingly supplies Ukraine with weapons they were unable to use due to unskilled soldiers.

"While the US and allies can provide Ukraine with weapons, "if they don't have competent forces to use them, it doesn't do a lot of good," they said."

What a waste of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Another money pit just like Israel.


Dumb out-of-context quote, meaning nothing. Seems to me Ukraine has been highly competent in using HIMARS and other complex weapons systems. Ask any Russian soldier, and he will tell you this - after sh*tting his pants at the mere mention of HIMARS, that is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all this time the US knowingly supplies Ukraine with weapons they were unable to use due to unskilled soldiers.

"While the US and allies can provide Ukraine with weapons, "if they don't have competent forces to use them, it doesn't do a lot of good," they said."

What a waste of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Another money pit just like Israel.


Dumb out-of-context quote, meaning nothing. Seems to me Ukraine has been highly competent in using HIMARS and other complex weapons systems. Ask any Russian soldier, and he will tell you this - after sh*tting his pants at the mere mention of HIMARS, that is.


It's time for Ukraine to make.a deal with the devil. Despite what Yellen said, we don't have enough money to fund 2 wars and Israel take priority.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread has become ridiculous. No new info or analysis, just trolls calling each other out and long ass newspaper quotes


As the war drags on and Ukraine gets destroyed and Russia inevitably wins this thread will get to 1000 pages.


The opposite

It’ll get very quiet (as it is now) as Ukraine fails



There's always a quiet before a storm.

I believe it should be quite the show in Moscow by January!
Anonymous
That sad thing is that Ukranian farm boys were duped.

Vladimir Vladimovich cares more about them than the foreigner Zelensky.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That sad thing is that Ukranian farm boys were duped.

Vladimir Vladimovich cares more about them than the foreigner Zelensky.


Jews use goys for their own means

A tale as old as time

It’s described clearly in the Talmud


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So all this time the US knowingly supplies Ukraine with weapons they were unable to use due to unskilled soldiers.

"While the US and allies can provide Ukraine with weapons, "if they don't have competent forces to use them, it doesn't do a lot of good," they said."

What a waste of billions of dollars and thousands of lives. Another money pit just like Israel.


A waste? The US has contributed only .3% of 1-years GDP.

And for that we’ve basically eliminated at least half of Russian armor that was built up over the last 50+ years. With no loss of American lives! This war has been a complete success for the US regardless of the outcome.

Now continuing the war would make it even more successful, while supporting a democratic country that was invaded. Russia is spending over 1/3 of their entire budget on the war, hundreds of thousands of lives. While we lose no lives and a rounding error on the budget.

I support Ukraine for other reasons but on a purely geopolitical level and long term this has already been a huge win for America.
Anonymous

^^^^ the spinning on Biden losing another war has begun.

I guess it’s over.
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^^^^ the spinning on Biden losing another war has begun.

I guess it’s over.



Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been a huge win for the US. We've spent about 5 percent of the defense budget on this. And most of that was transferring older weapons systems that were due to be decommissioned regardless. In return, we've seen Russia, our most significant adversary over the past 80 years, get absolutely wrecked on the battlefield. The've lost well more than half of their military capabilities. They've literally lost thousands of tanks. Their casualty count is approximating 300,000. Their economy will be shattered for years. A brain drain has already happened. Russia is completely crippled. There is no coming back from this. Meanwhile, NATO is stronger than ever. Even Finland and Sweden joined. There is no risk at all of Russia invading any other European country. And that is no small thing. Russia's miscalculation has been a gift to the West. Biden has handled this really well.
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