Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't really believe that anyone thinks the current situation on Conn Ave is better than pre-pandemic. My commute home from Dupont to just inside the Beltway is now a nightmare. From Woodley through Van Ness is total gridlock from about 5pm to nearly 7pm. Waze was redirecting tons of cars through the neighborhood, which were also gridlocked. Is this what DC residents want? You can't force people back to the office and then cut off Beach, shrink CT Ave to two lanes at rush hour, and assume that it's going to work. Something's gotta give.

CT Ave is already bad. Got it. So adding bike lanes with better through-put would actually make things better, not worse.

lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't really believe that anyone thinks the current situation on Conn Ave is better than pre-pandemic. My commute home from Dupont to just inside the Beltway is now a nightmare. From Woodley through Van Ness is total gridlock from about 5pm to nearly 7pm. Waze was redirecting tons of cars through the neighborhood, which were also gridlocked. Is this what DC residents want? You can't force people back to the office and then cut off Beach, shrink CT Ave to two lanes at rush hour, and assume that it's going to work. Something's gotta give.

Have you considered taking Metro?

Not an option with the school run.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if bike lanes go mostly unused. What's important is that the cyclists feel better.

A chance to wear expensive Lycra is the best therapy for mid-life crisis.

...for the hundredth or maybe even more time... bike lanes are not for the types in lycra. The roadies can easily outpace your car and have no problem riding in traffic.

They are for the person put-putting away on a red 3 speed bike share. Or the cargo bike with a kid or two in tow. Or the person shuttling to groceries or Bodega.

There ain't a damn person on CT ave shuttling to the bodega on their bike. Nor are there enough of any other people that you cite to justify the demand. There simply isn't demand to justify the option and there are two fantastic public transportation options already in place on that route.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, in case you haven’t heard, dc is going off a fiscal cliff. No money for these projects.

Yes, plus Bowser specifically indicated it is not happening.

I'm mystified that this thread continues.

She said there were some troubling aspects of Concept C. She didn't say the project was killed. Let DDOT address her concerns.

We're about to suffer a complete breakdown in tax revenue cause by the commerical real estate crash as well as an out of control crime wave and population loss. Wasting a single penny more on this frivolous poorly thought out idea would be gross negligence.

Protected bike infrastructure is not frivolous.

It is when there's no demand to justify it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just wait til the bike lanes are in and it doubles your commute time to get your kid to and from school or practice. Old Georgetown Road is all jacked up and no one rides bikes in the bike lanes.

Old Georgetown Road is now safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you a politician? You sound like one. And clearly you’ve never seen the people who keep forgetting there is a bike lane and keep driving over the plastic thingys that are supposed to protect the people on bikes. So in theory safer. In reality not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't really believe that anyone thinks the current situation on Conn Ave is better than pre-pandemic. My commute home from Dupont to just inside the Beltway is now a nightmare. From Woodley through Van Ness is total gridlock from about 5pm to nearly 7pm. Waze was redirecting tons of cars through the neighborhood, which were also gridlocked. Is this what DC residents want? You can't force people back to the office and then cut off Beach, shrink CT Ave to two lanes at rush hour, and assume that it's going to work. Something's gotta give.

DC residents want the streets to be safe and accomodating. Personally I don’t care if your car commute which should have been by Metro takes an extra 10-15.

And we personally don't care if you go to Beach Dr. or turn down Tilden or Porter and ride on the pre-existing bike path in Rock Creek Park. You can get downtown just fine. And an added plus is that it's never too crowded. Guess that pent up demand is just a figment of your imagination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if bike lanes go mostly unused. What's important is that the cyclists feel better.

A chance to wear expensive Lycra is the best therapy for mid-life crisis.

...for the hundredth or maybe even more time... bike lanes are not for the types in lycra. The roadies can easily outpace your car and have no problem riding in traffic.

They are for the person put-putting away on a red 3 speed bike share. Or the cargo bike with a kid or two in tow. Or the person shuttling to groceries or Bodega.

There ain't a damn person on CT ave shuttling to the bodega on their bike. Nor are there enough of any other people that you cite to justify the demand. There simply isn't demand to justify the option and there are two fantastic public transportation options already in place on that route.

And where is there an actual bodega on Connect ave?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if bike lanes go mostly unused. What's important is that the cyclists feel better.

A chance to wear expensive Lycra is the best therapy for mid-life crisis.

...for the hundredth or maybe even more time... bike lanes are not for the types in lycra. The roadies can easily outpace your car and have no problem riding in traffic.

They are for the person put-putting away on a red 3 speed bike share. Or the cargo bike with a kid or two in tow. Or the person shuttling to groceries or Bodega.

There ain't a damn person on CT ave shuttling to the bodega on their bike. Nor are there enough of any other people that you cite to justify the demand. There simply isn't demand to justify the option and there are two fantastic public transportation options already in place on that route.

And where is there an actual bodega on Connect ave?

There's like 4 CVS's. Which basically muscled out the bodegas in a lot of the country. There's also Magruder's.

I saw an older lady on a beach cruiser with a food bag hanging off her handlebars rolling down the sidewalk near I'm Eddie Cano just tonight.

[Anonymous]

That’s it, as we told you 200 pages ago. Put the bike lane on that massive sidewalk. Just like in Amsterdam

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s it, as we told you 200 pages ago. Put the bike lane on that massive sidewalk. Just like in Amsterdam

But the sidewalk is supposed to be for more sidewalk cafes and streeteries!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just wait til the bike lanes are in and it doubles your commute time to get your kid to and from school or practice. Old Georgetown Road is all jacked up and no one rides bikes in the bike lanes.

Old Georgetown Road is now safer for everyone, including drivers.

Are you a politician? You sound like one. And clearly you’ve never seen the people who keep forgetting there is a bike lane and keep driving over the plastic thingys that are supposed to protect the people on bikes. So in theory safer. In reality not.

Old Georgetown road is in reality safer with the bike lanes. That's what the Maryland State Highway Administration found. What do you know that they don't know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if bike lanes go mostly unused. What's important is that the cyclists feel better.

A chance to wear expensive Lycra is the best therapy for mid-life crisis.

...for the hundredth or maybe even more time... bike lanes are not for the types in lycra. The roadies can easily outpace your car and have no problem riding in traffic.

They are for the person put-putting away on a red 3 speed bike share. Or the cargo bike with a kid or two in tow. Or the person shuttling to groceries or Bodega.

There ain't a damn person on CT ave shuttling to the bodega on their bike. Nor are there enough of any other people that you cite to justify the demand. There simply isn't demand to justify the option and there are two fantastic public transportation options already in place on that route.

Sure there are. You can even see them doing it in Google Streetview.

[Anonymous]

The reason the bike mafia tweets pics of running errands on a bike is that it is so uncommon. Like look “you CAN shop for groceries on a bike.” But if bikes were actually common there would be no need for the picture, we’d see it every day. But we rarely see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't really believe that anyone thinks the current situation on Conn Ave is better than pre-pandemic. My commute home from Dupont to just inside the Beltway is now a nightmare. From Woodley through Van Ness is total gridlock from about 5pm to nearly 7pm. Waze was redirecting tons of cars through the neighborhood, which were also gridlocked. Is this what DC residents want? You can't force people back to the office and then cut off Beach, shrink CT Ave to two lanes at rush hour, and assume that it's going to work. Something's gotta give.

Have you considered taking Metro?

Not an option with the school run.

Of course it’s an option - you just deliberately do not choose it because it is less convenient to you. Connecticut Ave does not exist to minimize your commute time above all other interests. It also has to be safe for pedestrians and host other forms of more environmentally sound and economical transit. If it adds 15 minutes to your commute, that is fully acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason the bike mafia tweets pics of running errands on a bike is that it is so uncommon. Like look “you CAN shop for groceries on a bike.” But if bikes were actually common there would be no need for the picture, we’d see it every day. But we rarely see it.

… because the safe biking infrastructure isn’t there.