Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

This is what happens when Ukrainians believe their own propaganda. You all still think Bakhmut was some big win where you ground down the Russians, instead of being a complete disaster that cost Ukraine 70,000+ soldiers. The propaganda is stale as well, with "meat waves" making a comeback. Are "meat cubes" and mobile crematoriums coming back too?

Avdeeka is shaping up exactly the same, in which you claim to be killing/destroying far more Russian assets than you actually are without counting the costs either. If Ukraine continues to pour men and material into a lost cause, they will suffer the same disproportionate loses here as well.

At this point, its hard not to argue that Zelensky is purposely getting as many Ukrainians killed as possible.

This is Russian propaganda.
There is zero credible evidence that Ukraine lost 70k troops at Avdiivka. Zero. None. And there IS ample evidence of Russia's failed wave after wave, entire columns of Russian armor destroyed. Russia's losses at Avdiivka have been even worse than their losses at Vuhledar. And from what I've seen it's been worse than 4:1 losses compared to Ukraine's losses. Every meter of gain has been coming at unsustainable cost to Russia.

You might want to try reading sentence #2 again. I'll take alternative casualty counts for Ukraine in Bakhmut if you have them.

Ukraine has claimed to be inflicting massively disproportionate losses the entire conflict. And yet somehow Russia is advancing. How do you square that propaganda circle? How is Ukraine constantly losing when inflicting 4-1 or even 10-1 casualties? Does Russia have necromancers?

In the last 6 months Russia has lost more territory than they gained. Yes, they gained a few KM to take Bakhmut (after turning it to worthless rubble) and they gained a few KM in Avdiivka but they are losing ground daily in most other places along the front. Along with losing an absolutely staggering amount of armor, aircraft, and having their once-mighty Black Sea Fleet banished from Crimea. As for casualty count at Bakhmut I seriously doubt it was 70k. Russia lost at least 40k from Wagner alone, and the visually confirmed loss of Wagner vehicles and other equipment is commensurate with that to provide corroborating evidence, but there is no such corroborating visual evidence to indicate 70k Ukrainians lost.

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70k is possible if the casualties were a combination of military and civilian casualties (women, children, elderly) that refused to leave living in the apartment buildings / homes that were burned by incendiary weapons.

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

All that matters is: did Ukraine push out the Russian troops and reclaim their territory. Right now the answer is "no".
Russian losses are not material. They have 3x the population of Ukraine and will conscript that last poor SOB to win this war. Also technology doesn't matter. Russia is succeeding in maintaining its occupation with low-tech 1950's artillery and human wave attacks.

You forget that Russia's military is spread across Asia. Russia only has 3x the population after pulling out everyone from across the globe, whereas Ukrainians are mostly clustered in and around their country. Russia dumped so much personnel and equipment into Ukraine, the Kremlin would have issues if an internal unrest situation or external 2nd front developed.

And apparently Putin is thinking the exact same thing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed a topic of national import at the Council of Council meeting: The turnover of weapons within Russia."
https://bnn.network/politics/putin-speaks-on-weapons-turnover-an-enigma-wrapped-in-power/

But it's interesting timing that coincides with (unsubstantiated) rumors of Putin's heart attack from the "General SVR" Telegram account. It's ironic since "General SVR" is the Russian equivalent of Q-Anon, giving the Russians a dose of their own medicine. It might also explain why Solovyov was so brave going against Russia's policy to support Iraq and Syria against Israel?

"the GeneralSVR Telegram channel, reported late on Thursday night that Russia’s leader had “died at his luxury Valdai forest palace.”"
"Russian President Vladimir Putin died tonight at his residence on Valdai. At 20:42 (8:42 p.m.) Moscow time, doctors stopped resuscitation and pronounced him dead.”
According to the report the doctors “were kept blocked in the room with Putin's corpse” by Putin’s security detail while Kremlin officials decided on how to “preserve the current regime and use Putin's double.”
It went on that this was “on the personal order of Dmitry Kochnev [the head of the Russian Presidential Security Service], who is in touch and receives instructions from the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev [Secretary of the Security Council of Russia].”
“Dmitry Kochnev carries out the instructions of the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev...Negotiations on the creation of a coalition of representatives of the near-Putin elites under the leadership of Nikolai Patrushev, to preserve the current regime and use Putin's double in the image of the president, have almost been completed.”
“[With] no respect for the deceased. Putin’s corpse was placed in a freezer, which previously contained deep-frozen food, at the presidential residence in Valdai.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23334

Whether true or not, I feel sorry for Putin's body double(s). Pharos take their toys with them.

[Anonymous]

Actually it explains this as well:

"The largest mass arrest of lawyers in Russia’s modern history took place on October 13 when three lawyers defending the jailed opposition politician Alexey Navalny — Vadim Kobzev, Igor Sergunin and Alexey Liptser — were taken into custody and now face politically motivated charges."
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/10/26/then-they-came-for-the-lawyers-en

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

All that matters is: did Ukraine push out the Russian troops and reclaim their territory. Right now the answer is "no".
Russian losses are not material. They have 3x the population of Ukraine and will conscript that last poor SOB to win this war. Also technology doesn't matter. Russia is succeeding in maintaining its occupation with low-tech 1950's artillery and human wave attacks.

You forget that Russia's military is spread across Asia. Russia only has 3x the population after pulling out everyone from across the globe, whereas Ukrainians are mostly clustered in and around their country. Russia dumped so much personnel and equipment into Ukraine, the Kremlin would have issues if an internal unrest situation or external 2nd front developed.

And apparently Putin is thinking the exact same thing.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed a topic of national import at the Council of Council meeting: The turnover of weapons within Russia."
https://bnn.network/politics/putin-speaks-on-weapons-turnover-an-enigma-wrapped-in-power/

But it's interesting timing that coincides with (unsubstantiated) rumors of Putin's heart attack from the "General SVR" Telegram account. It's ironic since "General SVR" is the Russian equivalent of Q-Anon, giving the Russians a dose of their own medicine. It might also explain why Solovyov was so brave going against Russia's policy to support Iraq and Syria against Israel?

"the GeneralSVR Telegram channel, reported late on Thursday night that Russia’s leader had “died at his luxury Valdai forest palace.”"
"Russian President Vladimir Putin died tonight at his residence on Valdai. At 20:42 (8:42 p.m.) Moscow time, doctors stopped resuscitation and pronounced him dead.”
According to the report the doctors “were kept blocked in the room with Putin's corpse” by Putin’s security detail while Kremlin officials decided on how to “preserve the current regime and use Putin's double.”
It went on that this was “on the personal order of Dmitry Kochnev [the head of the Russian Presidential Security Service], who is in touch and receives instructions from the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev [Secretary of the Security Council of Russia].”
“Dmitry Kochnev carries out the instructions of the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev...Negotiations on the creation of a coalition of representatives of the near-Putin elites under the leadership of Nikolai Patrushev, to preserve the current regime and use Putin's double in the image of the president, have almost been completed.”
“[With] no respect for the deceased. Putin’s corpse was placed in a freezer, which previously contained deep-frozen food, at the presidential residence in Valdai.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23334

Whether true or not, I feel sorry for Putin's body double(s). Pharos take their toys with them.

Russia has already pulled a lot of their border troops leaving themselves vulnerable, along with abandoning (former) allies like Armenia rather than helping to protect them as they had previously promised. Russia's weakness continues to grow by the day.

[Anonymous]

Zelenskyy's peace proposal:

1. Radiation & Nuclear Safety: Russia's nuclear blackmail must end. Immediate withdrawal from Ukrainian nuclear plant Zaporizhzhia NPP is non-negotiable

2. Food Security: Russia's exit from the Black Sea Grain Initiative threatens millions. Ukraine's 32.8M tons of food exports must be restored

3. Energy Security: Russia weaponizes cold. Price restrictions on Russian energy and fortified Ukrainian infrastructure are imperative

4. Release of Prisoners: Thousands, including 20,000 children, are in Russian captivity. Ukraine calls for an 'all for all' release.

5. UN Charter & Territorial Integrity: Russia's invasion violates international law. Ukraine's sovereignty is not up for debate

6. Withdrawal of Russian Troops: A simple goal—Russia must withdraw all forces for peace to be conceivable

7. Justice: Over 100,000 war crimes by Russian military registered. A Special Tribunal and compensation mechanisms are essential.

8. Environmental Protection: Russian invasion caused $1.5B in environmental damage alone. Global challenge, immediate action

9. "Prevention of Escalation: Ukraine seeks effective security guarantees to prevent future invasions. A renewed Euro-Atlantic security architecture is key.

10. End of War Confirmation: After implementing these measures, an official document must confirm the war's end. Global support is crucial

He has brought this to the UN and said Ukraine is willing to meet with Russia in Malta.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/10/28/third-ukraine-peace-formula-summit-started-in-malta/

[Anonymous]

Why is there so much corruption in the Ukraine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there so much corruption in the Ukraine?

Well Israel has the same levels of corruption yet we freely ship money, arms and troops to protect them. Remember the current prime Minister is under indictment for corruption. I bet Israel’s government would have no problems creating “evidence” against Biden. They are very right wing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there so much corruption in the Ukraine?

I'm sorry, you were saying?

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry, what was that again?

[Anonymous]

$2 Billion to Kushner for letting MBS off the hook...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

This is what happens when Ukrainians believe their own propaganda. You all still think Bakhmut was some big win where you ground down the Russians, instead of being a complete disaster that cost Ukraine 70,000+ soldiers. The propaganda is stale as well, with "meat waves" making a comeback. Are "meat cubes" and mobile crematoriums coming back too?

Avdeeka is shaping up exactly the same, in which you claim to be killing/destroying far more Russian assets than you actually are without counting the costs either. If Ukraine continues to pour men and material into a lost cause, they will suffer the same disproportionate loses here as well.

At this point, its hard not to argue that Zelensky is purposely getting as many Ukrainians killed as possible.

This is Russian propaganda.
There is zero credible evidence that Ukraine lost 70k troops at Avdiivka. Zero. None. And there IS ample evidence of Russia's failed wave after wave, entire columns of Russian armor destroyed. Russia's losses at Avdiivka have been even worse than their losses at Vuhledar. And from what I've seen it's been worse than 4:1 losses compared to Ukraine's losses. Every meter of gain has been coming at unsustainable cost to Russia.

You might want to try reading sentence #2 again. I'll take alternative casualty counts for Ukraine in Bakhmut if you have them.

Ukraine has claimed to be inflicting massively disproportionate losses the entire conflict. And yet somehow Russia is advancing. How do you square that propaganda circle? How is Ukraine constantly losing when inflicting 4-1 or even 10-1 casualties? Does Russia have necromancers?

In the last 6 months Russia has lost more territory than they gained. Yes, they gained a few KM to take Bakhmut (after turning it to worthless rubble) and they gained a few KM in Avdiivka but they are losing ground daily in most other places along the front. Along with losing an absolutely staggering amount of armor, aircraft, and having their once-mighty Black Sea Fleet banished from Crimea. As for casualty count at Bakhmut I seriously doubt it was 70k. Russia lost at least 40k from Wagner alone, and the visually confirmed loss of Wagner vehicles and other equipment is commensurate with that to provide corroborating evidence, but there is no such corroborating visual evidence to indicate 70k Ukrainians lost.

Keep in mind that the best public western assessments of Russian losses can only confirm some 34,000 deaths since the start of the SMO: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

That's a source that has names, ranks, week of death and other data. Any other number is a "trust me bro" type number. No one dares do the same for Ukrainian casualties because they don't want to get car bombed.

As for Avdeevka:

That's 200-300 casualties per day per a pro-Ukrainian count in Avdeevka. Is Russia losing 800-1200 a day? If so, where are their obituaries?

How do you inflict 4X or greater casualties and lose ground? Repeatedly? An army would absolutely break if they took sustained 4X casualties.

The Ukraine is simply propped up by lies and grift now. Its a shell of a state on the edge of collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

This is what happens when Ukrainians believe their own propaganda. You all still think Bakhmut was some big win where you ground down the Russians, instead of being a complete disaster that cost Ukraine 70,000+ soldiers. The propaganda is stale as well, with "meat waves" making a comeback. Are "meat cubes" and mobile crematoriums coming back too?

Avdeeka is shaping up exactly the same, in which you claim to be killing/destroying far more Russian assets than you actually are without counting the costs either. If Ukraine continues to pour men and material into a lost cause, they will suffer the same disproportionate loses here as well.

At this point, its hard not to argue that Zelensky is purposely getting as many Ukrainians killed as possible.

This is Russian propaganda.
There is zero credible evidence that Ukraine lost 70k troops at Avdiivka. Zero. None. And there IS ample evidence of Russia's failed wave after wave, entire columns of Russian armor destroyed. Russia's losses at Avdiivka have been even worse than their losses at Vuhledar. And from what I've seen it's been worse than 4:1 losses compared to Ukraine's losses. Every meter of gain has been coming at unsustainable cost to Russia.

You might want to try reading sentence #2 again. I'll take alternative casualty counts for Ukraine in Bakhmut if you have them.

Ukraine has claimed to be inflicting massively disproportionate losses the entire conflict. And yet somehow Russia is advancing. How do you square that propaganda circle? How is Ukraine constantly losing when inflicting 4-1 or even 10-1 casualties? Does Russia have necromancers?

In the last 6 months Russia has lost more territory than they gained. Yes, they gained a few KM to take Bakhmut (after turning it to worthless rubble) and they gained a few KM in Avdiivka but they are losing ground daily in most other places along the front. Along with losing an absolutely staggering amount of armor, aircraft, and having their once-mighty Black Sea Fleet banished from Crimea. As for casualty count at Bakhmut I seriously doubt it was 70k. Russia lost at least 40k from Wagner alone, and the visually confirmed loss of Wagner vehicles and other equipment is commensurate with that to provide corroborating evidence, but there is no such corroborating visual evidence to indicate 70k Ukrainians lost.

Keep in mind that the best public western assessments of Russian losses can only confirm some 34,000 deaths since the start of the SMO: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

That's a source that has names, ranks, week of death and other data. Any other number is a "trust me bro" type number. No one dares do the same for Ukrainian casualties because they don't want to get car bombed.

As for Avdeevka:

That's 200-300 casualties per day per a pro-Ukrainian count in Avdeevka. Is Russia losing 800-1200 a day? If so, where are their obituaries?

How do you inflict 4X or greater casualties and lose ground? Repeatedly? An army would absolutely break if they took sustained 4X casualties.

The Ukraine is simply propped up by lies and grift now. Its a shell of a state on the edge of collapse.

"Only 34000 deaths"
And you actually BELIEVE that?
😆😆😆😆

That was the last number that Russia released just a few months into the war, and they haven't updated it and have been lying about it ever since.

After the battle of Bakhmut, Prigozhin admitted he lost more than 40,000 of just his own Wagner troops.

Multiple Western intelligence assessments - based on satellite imagery and other intelligence have Russian troop deaths at over 120,000 and wounded at over 180,000 for a total of 300,000 casualties. And there are reports that a large percentage of the wounded Russians are returning home with amputations and other serious disabilities, not likely to ever return to combat and some probably not likely to be able to rejoin the civilian workforce either. Compare that to 70k killed and 100k wounded on the Ukraine side per the same assessments. And Ukrainians have had a higher survival and recovery rate due to better battlefield logistics than Russia's.

Confirmed Russian equipment losses exceed:
5,000 tanks
9,000 armored fighting vehicles
7,000 artillery pieces
800 MRLS launchers
10,000 trucks and other vehicles
500 anti-aircraft artillery and radar
300 aircraft
300 helicopters
20 ships and patrol boats
and additional massive costs incurred to their military.

There are also reports that the Russians have been less likely to repair and return damaged equipment back to service than Ukraine has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its sounding like Russia has fire control over the last road into Avdeeka. Ukraine is shifting the 47th and 82nd to that front as well.

Surely Ukraine realizes its waltzing into another Bakhmut? But then again, when you believe your own propaganda, you're bound to make big mistakes.

This has been an incredibly costly offensive for Russians. They've lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of pieces of equipment. The Ukrainians are fighting from well-established defensive positions. Russians are advancing over heavily-mined open fields. Artillery is dialed in. They are getting obliterated.

Will they ultimately take Avdiivka? Probably. But they're resorting to using human waves of poorly equipped and untrained soldiers. The Chechens have been brought in to shoot Russians that retreat and there are now reports of soldiers refusing orders. It's certain death for them on that front. But Putin wants this victory before winter sets in. And Ukraine has decided that if Russians are willing to get destroyed here, they'll oblige them.

In the end, like Bakhmut, Avdiiivka will be just another pile of rubble. The Russian military will be significantly depleted. And the rest of the world will be left to wonder why are Russians so willing to die? It's roughly a quarter million casualties and counting so far for what was supposed to be a three day operation to take Ukraine. It's been a strategic catastrophe for Russia for which NATO will be forever grateful.

This is what happens when Ukrainians believe their own propaganda. You all still think Bakhmut was some big win where you ground down the Russians, instead of being a complete disaster that cost Ukraine 70,000+ soldiers. The propaganda is stale as well, with "meat waves" making a comeback. Are "meat cubes" and mobile crematoriums coming back too?

Avdeeka is shaping up exactly the same, in which you claim to be killing/destroying far more Russian assets than you actually are without counting the costs either. If Ukraine continues to pour men and material into a lost cause, they will suffer the same disproportionate loses here as well.

At this point, its hard not to argue that Zelensky is purposely getting as many Ukrainians killed as possible.

This is Russian propaganda.
There is zero credible evidence that Ukraine lost 70k troops at Avdiivka. Zero. None. And there IS ample evidence of Russia's failed wave after wave, entire columns of Russian armor destroyed. Russia's losses at Avdiivka have been even worse than their losses at Vuhledar. And from what I've seen it's been worse than 4:1 losses compared to Ukraine's losses. Every meter of gain has been coming at unsustainable cost to Russia.

You might want to try reading sentence #2 again. I'll take alternative casualty counts for Ukraine in Bakhmut if you have them.

Ukraine has claimed to be inflicting massively disproportionate losses the entire conflict. And yet somehow Russia is advancing. How do you square that propaganda circle? How is Ukraine constantly losing when inflicting 4-1 or even 10-1 casualties? Does Russia have necromancers?

In the last 6 months Russia has lost more territory than they gained. Yes, they gained a few KM to take Bakhmut (after turning it to worthless rubble) and they gained a few KM in Avdiivka but they are losing ground daily in most other places along the front. Along with losing an absolutely staggering amount of armor, aircraft, and having their once-mighty Black Sea Fleet banished from Crimea. As for casualty count at Bakhmut I seriously doubt it was 70k. Russia lost at least 40k from Wagner alone, and the visually confirmed loss of Wagner vehicles and other equipment is commensurate with that to provide corroborating evidence, but there is no such corroborating visual evidence to indicate 70k Ukrainians lost.

Keep in mind that the best public western assessments of Russian losses can only confirm some 34,000 deaths since the start of the SMO: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

That's a source that has names, ranks, week of death and other data. Any other number is a "trust me bro" type number. No one dares do the same for Ukrainian casualties because they don't want to get car bombed.

As for Avdeevka:

That's 200-300 casualties per day per a pro-Ukrainian count in Avdeevka. Is Russia losing 800-1200 a day? If so, where are their obituaries?

How do you inflict 4X or greater casualties and lose ground? Repeatedly? An army would absolutely break if they took sustained 4X casualties.

The Ukraine is simply propped up by lies and grift now. Its a shell of a state on the edge of collapse.

Yes, they would break if they were sustaining such massive casualties. And, they are. Russia's army is suffering from increasing outbreaks of mutiny and insubordination. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-avdiivka-astra-army-1838107

[Anonymous]

Here is a lengthy thread which delivers receipts on how the Russian army is breaking down.