Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

No, it will mean even more charter schools in gentrifying neighborhoods. The local DCPS schools will struggle even worse. The gentrifyers will continue to segregate themselves as they always have.

Charter Schools are Public Schools

The DC charter board will not approve any more charters west of the Park. They did that with Washington Latin, which originally was located in Cathedral Heights, and the political fallout was considerable.

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Anonymous wrote:Any additional housing in Ward 3 will be bought by upper-middle class white people who will do anything to get their kids into Murch or Eaton or Wilson.

Increasing density is so *completely* pointless.

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Eaton, really? Why would you pay top dollar to go to a school with a large OOB population. Kinda defeats the point.

I think that the point is that if you put 10K more people in Ward 3 (low estimates) or up to 30K more people, then the existing schools will simply not be enough. There will need to be new schools build to handle the increased K-12 demand/load. Right now the new Comp Plan does not address schools. Not sure if this is a deliberate oversite or just acknowledgement that the solution will cost money and school build sites would be competing with the far more profitable multi family housing build sites.

DC will just have to shift school boundaries south and east. It’s not rocket science. And a lot of new residents in smart growth mixed use new housing won’t have children of school age.

Everybody says this, however the statistics do not bear it out.

The new multi family housing will be occupied with the same percentage of families with kids as today if not more as the numbers are increasing. There is no statistic to indicate that an unusual percentage of single people or couples without and not having kids are going to suddenly populate DC.

Increase the number of families with kids and you need to increase the school capacity.

From a standpoint of racial and social equity, fairness and inclusion, the best, most efficient way forward is a total District-wide school lottery system, perhaps with a sibling preference.

There aren’t enough white kids to go around to make a difference. That’s the problem.

By adding a lot more height and density in Ward 3, DC could increase the number of white kids to redistribute around to more public schools. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

It is not going to literally start raining more tax revenue, no matter what anybody does or doesn't do.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

Lots of people who aren't you.

Also, the DC government is not currently drowning in tax revenue.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

Lots of people who aren't you.

Also, the DC government is not currently drowning in tax revenue.

DC is fine; good equilibrium. Should keep working on schools, and grandfathering those who don't want to be priced out. Density does none of that

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

Lots of people who aren't you.

Also, the DC government is not currently drowning in tax revenue.

Fine. Density your neighborhood then. DC neighborhoods don’t all have to become cheap imitations if the Clarendon-Ballston strip

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

Lots of people who aren't you.

Also, the DC government is not currently drowning in tax revenue.

DC is fine; good equilibrium. Should keep working on schools, and grandfathering those who don't want to be priced out. Density does none of that

More housing provides more housing for people who want to live there.

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We live in a Northwest neighborhood that BowserBuild has targeted for lots more density. What has kept so many of us sane during this time has been the opportunity to walk, with plenty of space for social distancing. The back streets are quiet which permit people to walk in the street while others pass on sidewalks. For the first time in years, there are children riding their bikes and scooters in the street. One sees neighbors one hasn’t seen in what seems like a couple of years. We stop and talk from opposite sidewalks. There’s bird song and wildlife. People seem to appreciate the “village in the city” more than ever. In the commercial area, DC has seen fit to close a parking area to provide more space for social distancing on the avenue. One wonders what DC would need to do in another pandemic in the area if 12 story buildings replaced existing lower scale structure and houses. It would be a different, probably diminished, experience for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a Northwest neighborhood that BowserBuild has targeted for lots more density. What has kept so many of us sane during this time has been the opportunity to walk, with plenty of space for social distancing. The back streets are quiet which permit people to walk in the street while others pass on sidewalks. For the first time in years, there are children riding their bikes and scooters in the street. One sees neighbors one hasn’t seen in what seems like a couple of years. We stop and talk from opposite sidewalks. There’s bird song and wildlife. People seem to appreciate the “village in the city” more than ever. In the commercial area, DC has seen fit to close a parking area to provide more space for social distancing on the avenue. One wonders what DC would need to do in another pandemic in the area if 12 story buildings replaced existing lower scale structure and houses. It would be a different, probably diminished, experience for sure.

The reason you can do that is: your neighbors are driving their cars less. It has nothing to do with absence of multi-family buildings in your neighborhood.

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If you want to live in an extremely dense city, you can move. No one is stopping you. Go to New York City. Go to Tokyo. Go to Mumbai.

The rest of us like DC how it is. There's a ton of people here but it's a rare big city that is actually livable and -- gasp! -- pretty.

I don't want to live in a glorified college dorm, living cheek to jowl with my neighbors. Have you been to NYC? It sucks. I mean, nice to visit and all but who wants to live like that? No, thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in an extremely dense city, you can move. No one is stopping you. Go to New York City. Go to Tokyo. Go to Mumbai.

The rest of us like DC how it is. There's a ton of people here but it's a rare big city that is actually livable and -- gasp! -- pretty.

I don't want to live in a glorified college dorm, living cheek to jowl with my neighbors. Have you been to NYC? It sucks. I mean, nice to visit and all but who wants to live like that? No, thank you.

Nobody is talking about making you live in a dorm.

Nobody is talking about making DC like Mumbai.

And if people didn't want to live in the kind of housing you don't like, the builders wouldn't build it.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

The problem with DC schools isn't money.

We spend more on schools here than anywhere else in the country.

It's pretty common for teachers to make six figures, and even our garbage schools look like they were built yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:With significantly more height and density in high opportunity areas of the District, it will literally start raining more tax revenue, which means more, newer and better public schools. The challenge will take care of itself.

Ugh. Who wants more density? I vote for less density.

Also, you may not have noticed but the DC government is drowning in tax revenue. The government has more money than it knows what to do with. Which is probably why interns working for the government make $40,000.

Lots of people who aren't you.

Also, the DC government is not currently drowning in tax revenue.

The only people pushing for more density are 30-year old white guys who don't want to have to live in majority-black neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to live in an extremely dense city, you can move. No one is stopping you. Go to New York City. Go to Tokyo. Go to Mumbai.

The rest of us like DC how it is. There's a ton of people here but it's a rare big city that is actually livable and -- gasp! -- pretty.

I don't want to live in a glorified college dorm, living cheek to jowl with my neighbors. Have you been to NYC? It sucks. I mean, nice to visit and all but who wants to live like that? No, thank you.

Nobody is talking about making you live in a dorm.

Nobody is talking about making DC like Mumbai.

And if people didn't want to live in the kind of housing you don't like, the builders wouldn't build it.

DP

I agree with the PP. There are plenty of places one can go if they love the super high-density, overdeveloped urban landscape. Plenty of options. We don’t have to make DC that way also.

Yes, allowing for more and more high density housing, without leaving room for green space is absolutely pushing the city in that direction.