How's basis going so far?
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"I've heard differently. It's pretty obvious that not every incoming student tested at the same level - and some incoming students apparently didn't even bother with the test - though they should have, as some who didn't bother probably weren't sufficiently prepared."
You've heard differently. Same garbage as always. Basis has been open all of ten minutes. Not long enough to be able to analyze trends or make predictions in any meaningful way. Not long enough to determine who is prepared and who isn't (especially considering the huge pressure to grade inflate) and absolutely not long enough to trust that whatever method is used to place kids is, in any way, robust. Give the poor school a chance to prove itself and stop denigrating it by spreading lies and rumors to make it look good. We don't need those silly strategies. |
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How many BASIS children came directly from private school? I'm guessing that the average number per grade must be in the single digits. Not that BASIS isn't a good option, but it's really not on the radar of private school parents. It's on our Radar and the only other school that is on our Radar is a 30+ private school which we will be visiting soon. Every other 30+ school I have visited has been disappointing for elementary. I hope I can determine that this one really ups the ball in middle. If you look at the private school curriculums they definitely seem to not accelerate in math before 6th/7th and our DC would be very bored. Also was not impressed with the level of books in the class. Why spend 30+ on a not challenging curriculum (even though you are TOLD it is) when you can spend that money on supplemental instruction, vacations and helping a few more FARM kids take robotics. |
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It's on our Radar and the only other school that is on our Radar is a 30+ private school which we will be visiting soon. Every other 30+ school I have visited has been disappointing for elementary. I hope I can determine that this one really ups the ball in middle. If you look at the private school curriculums they definitely seem to not accelerate in math before 6th/7th and our DC would be very bored. Also was not impressed with the level of books in the class. Why spend 30+ on a not challenging curriculum (even though you are TOLD it is) when you can spend that money on supplemental instruction, vacations and helping a few more FARM kids take robotics. Just FYI, I am FARMS at Basis and my child DOES take Robotics on Mondays, paid in full for $300 because Basis not does FARMS take care of that extracurricular activity. You parents really must know your correct information. |
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Your right, every kid did not do the same. That would be very ignorant to suggests that. What was said was all the kids on average tested the same. There were no significant numbers through the roof suggesting that the kids that came from private school tested considerably higher than any other child coming from DCPS! You guys read what is written and creat your own interpretation of what was CLEARLY stated. Jeesh! The children that did however do considerably well were the ones homeschooled and that's not to say that there were not any children here and there that didn't score high as well but out of 450 plus students the ratio was about the same. There were plenty parents that came in very proud and saying there kid was coming from private school and or was in a GT program and the test just didn't show it. How do I know this you keep asking? Well if your child attends Basis then you know this as well. As a concerned parent, as all the parents are at Basis, I asked. When my child's test scores came in on that email, that my fellow Basis parents received, it stated that my child's test results were among 80% of the students. They only tested for math and reading. They gave you the score for math and then for reading. It's safe to assume that the other 20% either scored higher than that or lower and not many scored higher so you do the math!!! Then comes the conversations had at the PTA's and the children of course share their scores as well like kids do. Why is that such a hard pill to swallow for you parents. I only made that point because of the remarks about one class of children affecting another class of children when that can't totally be the case if they mostly came in testing ABOUT the same! Now if that's not clarification enough for you then call my bluff and call Basis and check those stats yourself. 202-393-5437. They can't tell you which child scored what but they can tell you the ratio for all those doubting ANYTHING this states! |
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"On average everyone tested the same"?
What kind of useless statement is that? Average is average, it on its own doesn't say much of anything useful about the population as a whole. What does the bell curve look like, how big is the "average" slice, because it could be wide, it could be narrow - WHERE is average? Statistical garbage. Not to mention, the poster who said "everyone tested average" doesn't actually have any real means of knowing how everyone tested - so, between the made-up statement itself, and then trying to lead everyone into drawing conclusions based on it, is completely full of it. |
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If you think so then so are all of the statements suggesting that low class or FARMS students will or would affect the high/SES students because their poor. The opinions simply "don't make sense" and are considered " statistical garbage" when anyone speaks out against THOSE "statistical garbage" comments though huh? It impossible to go against ignorance because you only hear what you want to here not what makes sense and what's true. |
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How exactly would you know that "everyone tested average"? How exactly are you privy to all of the test results? And how does your idea of "everyone" account for the fact that not even all of the kids took the test?
How can any of it "make sense" or be "what's true" when you cannot possibly back any of your statements up? You are full of it. |
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| I think the poster was trying to make a point that in his/her view the gifted and talented programs and privates schools do not push the students into higher testing levels. The basis for this point is inferred and anecdotal and thus, not especially compelling. However I'm guessing many believe this. In fact I tend to agree that upbringing, teacher skills and classmate levels together push test scores up. Also anecdotal. I do know that rudeness is rudeness and stings even if anonymous so please, PP, be a bit more circumspect. I for one am glad the poster provided his/her view for discussion purposes. |
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PP was making statements that can't be backed up - whether anecdotally or otherwise. It's not "rude" to point that out.
And likewise, whether you consider it "rude" or not, I'm also not sure that any suggestions or conclusions can honestly be made about any numbers of incoming students came from G&T programs, either - a. because none of us are privy to that info and b.) given there are hardly any meaningful G&T programs in DC schools in the first place. |
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Yup, I sure am. So read on and don't worry about what I post then. Those who know....know and those who don't....don't! Have any of you even checked the stats from the previous Arizona schools. Even the gifted kids opt to leave and the schools litterly have a graduating class of about 15. That's not to indicate that the other kids aren't capable but they just end up dropping out for different reasons. So statistically, many of the private school, FARMS, and kids coming from "good" charter schools won't be graduating from Basis DC anyway. I sometimes even wonder if you parents even did any extensive research about the school or did you just send your kids to the school because you saw the curriculum? You guys talk about wrong or garbage statistics but have the nerve to quote your own damn statistics about FARMS and everything else....dumb ass |
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| See how pointless it is to call other posters names? Wow. Please can we raise the bar a bit here? I'm starting another Basis thread just for folks who want to sling epithets. Who knows, maybe that's what people want to wallow in. |
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This is what concerns me about trying BASIS from next year, if there's a lottery and we get in. So it's going OK, mainly for 5th and 6th graders. But I'm not IB for Deal (can't afford a decent house in Upper NW), or privates, so if I don't move to Fairfax or MoCo for middle school, will I have an acceptable high school? The best suburban HS programs appear to be test-in and probably wouldn't want my kid coming out of a DC public school, although we do JH CTY in the summer and Stanford EPGY during the school year. A ridiculously small graduating class doesn't sound promising. Even the smallest DC privates have at least 50 in a graduating class. Anybody else concerned? |