Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

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^^I'm hoping the complaints will keep the detectors from going in elsewhere
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Anonymous wrote:^^I'm hoping the complaints will keep the detectors from going in elsewhere


+1 praying
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.
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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate the Westfield parents who raised awareness on this debacle last spring and are still trying to get the problems solved.


The solution was beyond dumb. They should have put these at schools with recurrent weapons problems not simply thrown them at all HSs.
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Anonymous wrote:Get there early.
Do security lines cause planes to wait for you?


How can kids get there early when they ride the school bus? The kids don't set the bus schedules.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


Obvious Gatehouse shill
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Anonymous wrote:Get there early.
Do security lines cause planes to wait for you?


How can kids get there early when they ride the school bus? The kids don't set the bus schedules.


Get there early? The schools won't unlock the doors before 7:40 to start the scanners.

There have been huge crowds outside our school every morning of kids trying to beat the line. They aren't letting them in.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


They actually don't detect vapes.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).


Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.


Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.


No. I agree with what you wrote and as many have said I'm all for keeping our kids safe but this is not it. My mind is still blown that the athletes and other clubs are int he building in the morning and then asked to leave and come back through the metal detectors. I think we are all smart enough to know that this makes zero sense. As others have said kids are expected to to go to the main building through the metal detectors and then go to trailers....ummm what. Who is checking to make sure kids really are going through metal detectors. Make it make sense.


If the purpose of this is to make the teachers feel more safe from the students, then it makes sense. That may be why the parents and the board were not asked. If there are thousands of kids outside who are a shooting target, then that means the teachers inside the building are not the target. "I do not need to run faster than a bear - I just need to run faster than you."


I'm a teacher and this is not the purpose. Teachers didn't ask for this. We all saw the holes in the plan from a mile away.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


They actually don't detect vapes.


This. And if vapes are what you're trying to prevent, this is a ridiculous solution. You are gutting first period for every kid because some kids choose to vape. Those kids are going to find a way to make that choice regardless and that is a parenting problem, not one for the school, and not one that plenty of kids who aren't vaping should pay the price for.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


LOL, these don't make anyone safer.

This is security theater at its worst.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


They don't detect vapes.
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Westfield parent- kids are still vaping in the bathrooms and outside behind the building. Vapes go right thru.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


First, even if you want this absurd waste of money, it's still accurate to say FCPS is exhausting.

Second, I'm so sorry your school has a bad weapons problem. That must be hard. Moving is always an option. But the families in the schools that don't have that problem don't want this.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.


Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.


Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.


Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.


Keep complaining - they are banking on parents giving up. As someone said - FCPS is exhausting. They do that by design.


Not accurate. I am a high school parent. I am very thankful that the middle and high schools FINALLY have these safety precautions- they are long overdue. The high school and middle school parents I know are thankful. It will get easier and faster in time. We have been demanding safer schools, and this is a step towards safer schools. Please stop complaining! These are known to cut down on bringing weapons and vapes to school.


Obvious Gatehouse shill


Nope. Parents have been asking for metal detectors for years! I’m thankful and so are all the parents I know.
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