Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that these same syc u15s that beat dc 1-0 also beat dc 2-1 last season in April. This shows that maybe dc needs to work on some development through the ages, or syc 2010 age group is actually a very good team.

interesting thought. More interesting when you take into account that SYC lost three of its top players to Union, Red Bulls, and this same DC United team. You may think that even just taking one of SYC's best players to DCU should tip the scales in their favor.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

Professional academies in Europe don’t lose to local teams because they have the best players and the best coaches. If they do it is because they are playing older kids. It would be like Real Madrid losing to the town team in the 4th division. It just doesnt happen. Of course u15 teams in Europe lose games. Just not to non professional academies. And if they do it is VERY rare. DCU has the best players but loses to local teams. Draw whatever conclusion you want about that.

If you have the best kids in the area and you’re a professional academy, you can’t draw the conclusion that the kids are developing if those teams are losing to local teams. If anything they should be absolutely shredding them. Your argument works if SYC and DCU are similarly situated but the reality is they aren’t. Winning doesn’t equal development. I agree. But no professional academy wants to lose to local teams.

Said like a true USA youth soccer giant suv driving suburbia parent.

If DCU Academy cared more about winning than individual development, they wouldn't be playing little 2012's against 2011's and several of their top 2011's wouldn't be playing 2010's

In that same vein, their top 2010's wouldn't be playing 2009's if they were only focused on winning.
Every age group at DCU has multiple players training and playing up.
Obviously development is the priority over winning games against MLS Next teams.

But you short sighted medals and trophies chasing parents with kids not at MLS Club level don't and wouldn't understand.

You are so soccer ignorant and stupid, you think after DCU signs 20 U14 kids every kid after that at Bethesda, SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, Baltimore Armor and top ECNL teams are not good players and there is a massive gap in talent?
Like every academy, DCU picks kids that fit their needs and philosophy and what they think are the best future potential, not just current performance.

You that daft to think only 22 good U15's are in the DMV?

What is your personal and professional knowledge and experience of what happens at a Real Madrid level academy or PSG or Ajax or Bayern Munich?
Those teams lose to non Division 1 club academies periodically as well because no youth team has consistency in game results when development is primary focus.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

Professional academies in Europe don’t lose to local teams because they have the best players and the best coaches. If they do it is because they are playing older kids. It would be like Real Madrid losing to the town team in the 4th division. It just doesnt happen. Of course u15 teams in Europe lose games. Just not to non professional academies. And if they do it is VERY rare. DCU has the best players but loses to local teams. Draw whatever conclusion you want about that.

If you have the best kids in the area and you’re a professional academy, you can’t draw the conclusion that the kids are developing if those teams are losing to local teams. If anything they should be absolutely shredding them. Your argument works if SYC and DCU are similarly situated but the reality is they aren’t. Winning doesn’t equal development. I agree. But no professional academy wants to lose to local teams.

Said like a true USA youth soccer giant suv driving suburbia parent.

If DCU Academy cared more about winning than individual development, they wouldn't be playing little 2012's against 2011's and several of their top 2011's wouldn't be playing 2010's

In that same vein, their top 2010's wouldn't be playing 2009's if they were only focused on winning.
Every age group at DCU has multiple players training and playing up.
Obviously development is the priority over winning games against MLS Next teams.

But you short sighted medals and trophies chasing parents with kids not at MLS Club level don't and wouldn't understand.

You are so soccer ignorant and stupid, you think after DCU signs 20 U14 kids every kid after that at Bethesda, SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, Baltimore Armor and top ECNL teams are not good players and there is a massive gap in talent?
Like every academy, DCU picks kids that fit their needs and philosophy and what they think are the best future potential, not just current performance.

You that daft to think only 22 good U15's are in the DMV?

What is your personal and professional knowledge and experience of what happens at a Real Madrid level academy or PSG or Ajax or Bayern Munich?
Those teams lose to non Division 1 club academies periodically as well because no youth team has consistency in game results when development is primary focus.

First of all, calm down with the name calling. Your valid points get lost when u do.

If the reason that DCU doesn’t wipe local teams away, is that the talent in the area is high, I supposed that’s food for thought. I don’t disagree though that there is a lot of talent in the area and many of them are not at DCU.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that these same syc u15s that beat dc 1-0 also beat dc 2-1 last season in April. This shows that maybe dc needs to work on some development through the ages, or syc 2010 age group is actually a very good team.

interesting thought. More interesting when you take into account that SYC lost three of its top players to Union, Red Bulls, and this same DC United team. You may think that even just taking one of SYC's best players to DCU should tip the scales in their favor.

How does the score tell you about individual professional development?

Also, what are your levels of coaching licenses and what levels have you coached in National programs?
Just seeing how we should guage your opinion given from 30,000ft away

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

The argument that a club is not fielding their best on age team because their best players are playing up doesn’t have a place in professional youth academies. I expect the bench to be much, much deeper at a pro youth academy. I’d say their recruiting is flawed if they cannot field a second team that can beat local teams easily.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

The argument that a club is not fielding their best on age team because their best players are playing up doesn’t have a place in professional youth academies. I expect the bench to be much, much deeper at a pro youth academy. I’d say their recruiting is flawed if they cannot field a second team that can beat local teams easily.

You're entitled to your uneducated opinion

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

The argument that a club is not fielding their best on age team because their best players are playing up doesn’t have a place in professional youth academies. I expect the bench to be much, much deeper at a pro youth academy. I’d say their recruiting is flawed if they cannot field a second team that can beat local teams easily.

You're entitled to your uneducated opinion

As you are to yours.

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Let me understand this, 4 DCU teams played SYC this weekend

1 DC team lost at the U15 age 1:0
The other 3 won.

This means the entire DCU Academy isn't developing players.
Did I sum this up correctly?

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

The argument that a club is not fielding their best on age team because their best players are playing up doesn’t have a place in professional youth academies. I expect the bench to be much, much deeper at a pro youth academy. I’d say their recruiting is flawed if they cannot field a second team that can beat local teams easily.

Seems someone stated a fact that the DCU teams are all using younger players than opponents and playing players up.
Apparently a valid argument against all the people who say DC doesn't develope.

Now the goalposts shift to.... Okay, so they are playing younger players at each age group for individual development, But they should win every game because in our shallow world, only the W is important

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

Professional academies in Europe don’t lose to local teams because they have the best players and the best coaches. If they do it is because they are playing older kids. It would be like Real Madrid losing to the town team in the 4th division. It just doesnt happen. Of course u15 teams in Europe lose games. Just not to non professional academies. And if they do it is VERY rare. DCU has the best players but loses to local teams. Draw whatever conclusion you want about that.

If you have the best kids in the area and you’re a professional academy, you can’t draw the conclusion that the kids are developing if those teams are losing to local teams. If anything they should be absolutely shredding them. Your argument works if SYC and DCU are similarly situated but the reality is they aren’t. Winning doesn’t equal development. I agree. But no professional academy wants to lose to local teams.

Said like a true USA youth soccer giant suv driving suburbia parent.

If DCU Academy cared more about winning than individual development, they wouldn't be playing little 2012's against 2011's and several of their top 2011's wouldn't be playing 2010's

In that same vein, their top 2010's wouldn't be playing 2009's if they were only focused on winning.
Every age group at DCU has multiple players training and playing up.
Obviously development is the priority over winning games against MLS Next teams.

But you short sighted medals and trophies chasing parents with kids not at MLS Club level don't and wouldn't understand.

You are so soccer ignorant and stupid, you think after DCU signs 20 U14 kids every kid after that at Bethesda, SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, Baltimore Armor and top ECNL teams are not good players and there is a massive gap in talent?
Like every academy, DCU picks kids that fit their needs and philosophy and what they think are the best future potential, not just current performance.

You that daft to think only 22 good U15's are in the DMV?

What is your personal and professional knowledge and experience of what happens at a Real Madrid level academy or PSG or Ajax or Bayern Munich?
Those teams lose to non Division 1 club academies periodically as well because no youth team has consistency in game results when development is primary focus.

Wait . . . so are Union and Red Bulls U15s NOT developing their players because they haven't lost any games?

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

Professional academies in Europe don’t lose to local teams because they have the best players and the best coaches. If they do it is because they are playing older kids. It would be like Real Madrid losing to the town team in the 4th division. It just doesnt happen. Of course u15 teams in Europe lose games. Just not to non professional academies. And if they do it is VERY rare. DCU has the best players but loses to local teams. Draw whatever conclusion you want about that.

If you have the best kids in the area and you’re a professional academy, you can’t draw the conclusion that the kids are developing if those teams are losing to local teams. If anything they should be absolutely shredding them. Your argument works if SYC and DCU are similarly situated but the reality is they aren’t. Winning doesn’t equal development. I agree. But no professional academy wants to lose to local teams.

Said like a true USA youth soccer giant suv driving suburbia parent.

If DCU Academy cared more about winning than individual development, they wouldn't be playing little 2012's against 2011's and several of their top 2011's wouldn't be playing 2010's

In that same vein, their top 2010's wouldn't be playing 2009's if they were only focused on winning.
Every age group at DCU has multiple players training and playing up.
Obviously development is the priority over winning games against MLS Next teams.

But you short sighted medals and trophies chasing parents with kids not at MLS Club level don't and wouldn't understand.

You are so soccer ignorant and stupid, you think after DCU signs 20 U14 kids every kid after that at Bethesda, SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, Baltimore Armor and top ECNL teams are not good players and there is a massive gap in talent?
Like every academy, DCU picks kids that fit their needs and philosophy and what they think are the best future potential, not just current performance.

You that daft to think only 22 good U15's are in the DMV?

What is your personal and professional knowledge and experience of what happens at a Real Madrid level academy or PSG or Ajax or Bayern Munich?
Those teams lose to non Division 1 club academies periodically as well because no youth team has consistency in game results when development is primary focus.

Wait . . . so are Union and Red Bulls U15s NOT developing their players because they haven't lost any games?

You should probably be on the short bus thread.
This is obviously too advanced for you.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

Professional academies in Europe don’t lose to local teams because they have the best players and the best coaches. If they do it is because they are playing older kids. It would be like Real Madrid losing to the town team in the 4th division. It just doesnt happen. Of course u15 teams in Europe lose games. Just not to non professional academies. And if they do it is VERY rare. DCU has the best players but loses to local teams. Draw whatever conclusion you want about that.

If you have the best kids in the area and you’re a professional academy, you can’t draw the conclusion that the kids are developing if those teams are losing to local teams. If anything they should be absolutely shredding them. Your argument works if SYC and DCU are similarly situated but the reality is they aren’t. Winning doesn’t equal development. I agree. But no professional academy wants to lose to local teams.

Said like a true USA youth soccer giant suv driving suburbia parent.

If DCU Academy cared more about winning than individual development, they wouldn't be playing little 2012's against 2011's and several of their top 2011's wouldn't be playing 2010's

In that same vein, their top 2010's wouldn't be playing 2009's if they were only focused on winning.
Every age group at DCU has multiple players training and playing up.
Obviously development is the priority over winning games against MLS Next teams.

But you short sighted medals and trophies chasing parents with kids not at MLS Club level don't and wouldn't understand.

You are so soccer ignorant and stupid, you think after DCU signs 20 U14 kids every kid after that at Bethesda, SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, Baltimore Armor and top ECNL teams are not good players and there is a massive gap in talent?
Like every academy, DCU picks kids that fit their needs and philosophy and what they think are the best future potential, not just current performance.

You that daft to think only 22 good U15's are in the DMV?

What is your personal and professional knowledge and experience of what happens at a Real Madrid level academy or PSG or Ajax or Bayern Munich?
Those teams lose to non Division 1 club academies periodically as well because no youth team has consistency in game results when development is primary focus.

You basically didn't understand the PP's point about Real Madrid vs local club. The poster said PROFESSIONAL ACADEMIES in Europe don't lose to local clubs (non professional academies). PP didn't say they don't lose to other pro academies in lower divisions. This happens all the time.

The fact of the matter is that division 3 professional clubs in a country like Spain or Germany or England have solid academies because the emphasis is again on development of pros. This is how smaller academies and clubs in Europe stay alive. There are 2. Bundesliga clubs in Germany that have stadiums that are bigger than American Football stadiums. That is the SECOND league. Of course those types clubs and even smaller clubs can field competitive youth teams in their academies regardless of being in the first league or not. So again, it is very common for a smaller pro academies to have very strong youth sides because that is how they can compete with the big boys (developing players within and not pay for them).

And YES, there is a pretty big gap in the DCU kids and the rest of the MLS Next kids in the region. Why DCU usually wipes the floor with almost all of them at the younger ages. If there isn't a gap, again, DCU is doing something VERY VERY wrong (in scouting and coaching) considering they are taking the best of the best from the region. Are there some kids that can play that aren't at DCU, of course. But end of day, DCU has most of the top players in the area under their wing. Not all, for various reasons, but most.

Playing up is just not a very convincing argument that development is the focus. So what. You are bigger and faster than everyone in your age, so you play older kids. Not a hard decision to make. Literally you need no skills or coaching experience to make that call. Bravo if DCU can do that.

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and if you're smaller and playing up, thats a possibility too (not just size and speed), you better hope people at DCU understand how to coach you to use your size to your advantage and not view it as a weakness. But DCU gravitates so much toward size and speed and the ball is in the air so much when they play leading to aerial duels and the bypassing of the center mids on many occasions, hard for a smaller player to get on the ball a lot in a system like that.

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Anonymous wrote:How did using 3 big biobanded kids on every team work out for the BSC U14's and U15's this weekend?

Bethesda U14's and U15's even with their multiple biobanded big kids were totally dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up.

Boot and Chase ball has severe limitations at top levels

I'm all for bashing Bethesda's misuse of the bio-banding rule. I was hoping that they would have changed the practice this season for the 2010s. They were blatantly floiting the rule last year playing 3 fully developed 2009 players.

At the same time, let's not understate DCU's physicality by saying "DCU teams with small players playing up." Sure there are some standout smaller players they play up and play portions of the matches, but on the whole, the U15 team is big fast and physical.

I haven't seen a small U15's team anywhere in MLS Next since the puberty testosterone and growth spurts are kicking in at those ages.
That said, DCU has multiple 2011's playing U15

What does playing portions of the match mean?
Everyone plays portions of matches, no?

you sound really defensive. its a big physical fast team. It's ok.

Because you sound simple and stupid discounting their individual technical skills and creativity they use to dominate a Bethesda who on average has a bigger, older more physically aggressive team.

now you sound extremely defensive. I love the players on that team. I'm not a Bethesda parent, or fan, and DCU U15 is not small. You said, "dominated by DCU teams with small players playing up." nobody discounted anything, just calling out your implication that DCU U-15 is small players playing up.

I thought the PP was talking about the U14's as well?

Whether the kids are small or big, the reality is that if you really watch any DCU game at pretty much all ages, what you'll see is a very unsophisticated way of playing (i.e. glorified kick and run football) and very weak philosophical/tactical underpinning at the club coming from the top of the academy and the leadership overall. DCU has most of the physically developed kids in the area (for the most part) with a few late bloomers thrown in (and kids who are playing up) which allows them to physically dominate most opponents. But, what you'll see very fast is that when a team can match their physicality and speed and actually knows how to play football against them, they are VERY weak. Not in one age, but all ages. It isn't the kids, it is how they are coached and assembled.
Bethesda is just trying to keep things together to stay competitive because they have realized that the clock is ticking on their relevancy. Why they bio band so much. Its sad actually because at the end of the day the only ones that are losing are these kids because they aren't getting developed like the rest of the world develops youth football talent. They are getting used to win games and, in DCU's case, keep them credible in MLS Academy world, and in Bethesda's case, keep the dumb parents paying ridiculous money for their kid to seem "elite".

True, think DCU wiped SYC this past weekend all age groups.

No. The DCU U15s lost to SYC 1-0. The other age groups won. Think about the gravity of that in the context of the competitive landscape. Here you have a club that takes the best players from the all the local clubs and STILL can’t consistently beat them. If that isn’t an indictment on the coaching and development methodology at DCU I don’t know what is.

Only in America where the soccer dunce feel a comfortable right to speak loudly in public would someone say a U15 team lost a game 1:0 to a good opponent so it's a statement on the organization's overall individual player development methodology 🤣🤣

How soccer dumb are some of you folks?

Please tell us how that scoreboard tells the story of the individual development methodology? Be specific.

(I guess academies in South America, Africa, Europe and the rest of America never lose games at U15, or they all have bad player development?) lol

But SYC is not a “good” opponent. Everyone knows that SYC can be beaten assuming you are the size and speed as they are and and/or have the technical skill to outplay them. Their game relies heavily on physicality, quick runs on the side, long passes, etc.

Presumably dcu has the more technically skilled players and equally strong and fast players yet they still lost.

FWIW, this whole discussion really applies only to players who are talented enough to make a run at a high level D1 or pro career and for that tiny number, they do care a lot about whether DCU is the right spot to be developed.

So SYC has Recreational players?

Presumably, if DC United played all their 2010's against SYC they would have won the U15's game. If they considered that a must win.
But since they had some 2010's playing with the 09's instead, obviously only you littles consider the W or L the important thing.
Small minds think small things.

The argument that a club is not fielding their best on age team because their best players are playing up doesn’t have a place in professional youth academies. I expect the bench to be much, much deeper at a pro youth academy. I’d say their recruiting is flawed if they cannot field a second team that can beat local teams easily.

THIS