EVERY Six Months Jolie reiterates accusations against Pitt

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The obsession with making sure no one thinks bad thoughts about their precious icons is exactly what has allowed so much terrible seedy behavior to thrive in entertainment. The whole Depp thing ASTOUNDED me.

You’re the one who seems obsessed with ensuring no one has any bad words to say about your own precious icons.

Jolie is not a woman who stands with other woman. She is a predatory woman known for breaking up multiple marriages and engagements.

She is a woman known for checking into mental institutions and hiring hit men to kill her. She is not well mentally. I don’t think Brad is perfect, but he’s proven to be a far better person than her through out the course of most of his life. She keeps making and expanding on the same claims that have already been debunked by law enforcement agencies. She’s done this constantly for eight years in order to further her campaign to destroy Brad’s reputation and career, and alienate him from his children, and take his winery away from him. She is a vengeful woman who cannot move on and will not be happy until Brad is completely destroyed.

I didn't say anything about her, you put words into my mouth (keyboard) that were not there. HIS actions are abhorrent. I have a different more nuanced opinion of her but it is really irrelevant to what I think about him. And I used to LOVE Brad Pitt, it took me a LONG time to have the luster of years of fandom come off.

The FBI found no reason to charge him. From the released FBI report, she jumped on his back cause she THOUGHT he was going after the kid. I suspect he tussled with her, the kids tried to separate them and he fell backwards. I suspect during the tussle both Pitt and Jolie probably ended up hitting one or some of the kids.

People are innocent until proven guilty in this country. Pitt was accused of abuse by Jolie. The FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services Department both investigated the claims and found no reason to charge him. He was cleared of the claims by law enforcement agencies. A family court judge also awarded him joint custody after hearing her claims, before Angelina had the judge disqualified on a technicality. Every impartial authority who evaluates her claims has decided there is no merit to them. Yet she and her fans want to try this man in the media and have him tarred and feathered over her debunked claims.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

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Anonymous wrote:x100 re women supporting these guys. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

The obsession with making sure no one thinks bad thoughts about their precious icons is exactly what has allowed so much terrible seedy behavior to thrive in entertainment. The whole Depp thing ASTOUNDED me.

You’re the one who seems obsessed with ensuring no one has any bad words to say about your own precious icons.

Jolie is not a woman who stands with other woman. She is a predatory woman known for breaking up multiple marriages and engagements.

She is a woman known for checking into mental institutions and hiring hit men to kill her. She is not well mentally. I don’t think Brad is perfect, but he’s proven to be a far better person than her through out the course of most of his life. She keeps making and expanding on the same claims that have already been debunked by law enforcement agencies. She’s done this constantly for eight years in order to further her campaign to destroy Brad’s reputation and career, and alienate him from his children, and take his winery away from him. She is a vengeful woman who cannot move on and will not be happy until Brad is completely destroyed.

I didn't say anything about her, you put words into my mouth (keyboard) that were not there. HIS actions are abhorrent. I have a different more nuanced opinion of her but it is really irrelevant to what I think about him. And I used to LOVE Brad Pitt, it took me a LONG time to have the luster of years of fandom come off.

The FBI found no reason to charge him. From the released FBI report, she jumped on his back cause she THOUGHT he was going after the kid. I suspect he tussled with her, the kids tried to separate them and he fell backwards. I suspect during the tussle both Pitt and Jolie probably ended up hitting one or some of the kids.

People are innocent until proven guilty in this country. Pitt was accused of abuse by Jolie. The FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services Department both investigated the claims and found no reason to charge him. He was cleared of the claims by law enforcement agencies. A family court judge also awarded him joint custody after hearing her claims, before Angelina had the judge disqualified on a technicality. Every impartial authority who evaluates her claims has decided there is no merit to them. Yet she and her fans want to try this man in the media and have him tarred and feathered over her debunked claims.

I actually read some of the appellate's decision and the judges got into their family court judge, Brad and his lawyer for minimizing what happened. The judge suddenly not giving
appropriate notifications out isn't trivial and that's most likely why he asked for a new modification.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

The NDA is a smoke screen. Angelina was already negotiating with Stoli behind Brad’s back. She used Brad to get more money from Stoli.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the truth likely to be somewhere in the middle? He was an abusive drunk (seems clear!) and she's a pretty good mom overall but really was nasty in deliberately alienating the children from him after he became clean and tried to make amends with them.

I generally agree with this but also think he felt entitled to her monetary investment in Miraval. After what he did to their family, he should have made her a very generous offer to buy her out, and quickly. She just wanted financial independence at that time. His unwillingness smacks of coercive control.
My opinion is that both sides sucked in this scenario, but that he was the worst. And the kids know it.

Agreed. I saw shiloh's personal account got leaked. Not one mention of Brad or Pitt anywhere.

Probably because it’s not her account.

It is her account 100%. Her friends tag it.

No it's not. Shiloh knows it's all lies. Vivienne used to be close with brad but now shes not because of the play production.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

The NDA is a smoke screen. Angelina was already negotiating with Stoli behind Brad’s back. She used Brad to get more money from Stoli.

You should probably follow the case because brad tried to change the NDA before stoli contacted her.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the truth likely to be somewhere in the middle? He was an abusive drunk (seems clear!) and she's a pretty good mom overall but really was nasty in deliberately alienating the children from him after he became clean and tried to make amends with them.

I generally agree with this but also think he felt entitled to her monetary investment in Miraval. After what he did to their family, he should have made her a very generous offer to buy her out, and quickly. She just wanted financial independence at that time. His unwillingness smacks of coercive control.
My opinion is that both sides sucked in this scenario, but that he was the worst. And the kids know it.

Agreed. I saw shiloh's personal account got leaked. Not one mention of Brad or Pitt anywhere.

Probably because it’s not her account.

It is her account 100%. Her friends tag it.

No it's not. Shiloh knows it's all lies. Vivienne used to be close with brad but now shes not because of the play production.

....This is ridiculous 🙄 I am positive her own dance teacher and friends know her account. They follow it and vice versa. Not to mention even Angelina's only real friend loung follows the account. It's her. So many excuses, now it's the play, but not his own behavior. Ok. As someone said above, the kids just know who the crappier person is.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

The NDA is a smoke screen. Angelina was already negotiating with Stoli behind Brad’s back. She used Brad to get more money from Stoli.

You should probably follow the case because brad tried to change the NDA before stoli contacted her.

I have read the filings on courthouse news. Brad’s filing says the NDA excuse is a pretext. He has evidence that she opened negotiations with Stoli behind his back while she was supposedly still negotiating with him. Jolie and Stoli had agreed on a purchase price and the exclusivity of their negotiations - all before she cut off negotiations with Brad.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

That is what the court case is about. Pitt is claiming they had an implied-in-fact contract and she did have the obligation to sell to him or get his approval to sell to another business partner that was suitable to him.

They bought the winery and family home together as an investment for their children. The very least Jolie could have done if she wanted out of the business is sell to a third party who was palatable to Pitt. She sold to a hostile third party who has attempted to orchestrate a take over of the business. There are also numerous lawsuits in multiple jurisdictions regarding the winery. She wanted her children to inherit the winery, but there may be nothing to inherit if the court cases go against her.

Well that contract sounds vague and voidable. What if there was never a serious buyer who was palatable to Pitt, so she was not allowed to sell and be forever financially tired to Pitt. And no, just sell to Pitt is also vague. What if he was not or could not pay the asking price that someone else was wiling and capable of paying? She is not required to take the lesser amount to appease Pitt.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the truth likely to be somewhere in the middle? He was an abusive drunk (seems clear!) and she's a pretty good mom overall but really was nasty in deliberately alienating the children from him after he became clean and tried to make amends with them.

I generally agree with this but also think he felt entitled to her monetary investment in Miraval. After what he did to their family, he should have made her a very generous offer to buy her out, and quickly. She just wanted financial independence at that time. His unwillingness smacks of coercive control.
My opinion is that both sides sucked in this scenario, but that he was the worst. And the kids know it.

Well, I think this is exactly what we don't quite know, the dynamics of the Miraval sale. I'm sure she wanted initial investment plus profit. But he had invested all the sweat equity plus more financial capital. Bet it was difficult to come to terms on how much profit on her initial investment she was entitled to in that kind of murky scenario. So could they not agree, did he drag his feet when she wanted a quick payout, was it really about the NDA? I can't imagine that don't have plenty of documents on both sides to help establish the truth of what happened. His NDA arguments seem spurious, unless he can establish the NDA he requested was a standard business one that did not extend to their personal lives. Then again, with them, where could you draw the line between the personal and professional in terms of non-disparagement when there was so much overlap due to their family "brand"? Seems very messy.

She didn’t buy it, he did. He gave her 49 or 50% as a wedding gift.

She did buy her shares. He gave her 10% as a wedding gift so they would be even partners.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

The NDA is a smoke screen. Angelina was already negotiating with Stoli behind Brad’s back. She used Brad to get more money from Stoli.

Sounds like sound business advice.

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

That is what the court case is about. Pitt is claiming they had an implied-in-fact contract and she did have the obligation to sell to him or get his approval to sell to another business partner that was suitable to him.

They bought the winery and family home together as an investment for their children. The very least Jolie could have done if she wanted out of the business is sell to a third party who was palatable to Pitt. She sold to a hostile third party who has attempted to orchestrate a take over of the business. There are also numerous lawsuits in multiple jurisdictions regarding the winery. She wanted her children to inherit the winery, but there may be nothing to inherit if the court cases go against her.

Well that contract sounds vague and voidable. What if there was never a serious buyer who was palatable to Pitt, so she was not allowed to sell and be forever financially tired to Pitt. And no, just sell to Pitt is also vague. What if he was not or could not pay the asking price that someone else was wiling and capable of paying? She is not required to take the lesser amount to appease Pitt.

Yeah I am not understanding how they thought not having an actual contract would be suitable for a multimillion business. If i am not mistaken, that's why statute of frauds is so strict. It might not have been the morally right thing to do but it's not like either one had any moral standing in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the truth likely to be somewhere in the middle? He was an abusive drunk (seems clear!) and she's a pretty good mom overall but really was nasty in deliberately alienating the children from him after he became clean and tried to make amends with them.

I generally agree with this but also think he felt entitled to her monetary investment in Miraval. After what he did to their family, he should have made her a very generous offer to buy her out, and quickly. She just wanted financial independence at that time. His unwillingness smacks of coercive control.
My opinion is that both sides sucked in this scenario, but that he was the worst. And the kids know it.

Agreed. I saw shiloh's personal account got leaked. Not one mention of Brad or Pitt anywhere.

Probably because it’s not her account.

It is her account 100%. Her friends tag it.

No it's not. Shiloh knows it's all lies. Vivienne used to be close with brad but now shes not because of the play production.

....This is ridiculous 🙄 I am positive her own dance teacher and friends know her account. They follow it and vice versa. Not to mention even Angelina's only real friend loung follows the account. It's her. So many excuses, now it's the play, but not his own behavior. Ok. As someone said above, the kids just know who the crappier person is.

They were prevented for years from seeing their dad. But you think they know?

Do you know any children of divorce?

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The judge will order Jolie to give Brad her past NDAs.

Jolie has no legal case, just misdirection. She is attempting to turn a contract dispute into a venue to relitigate her abuse claims that have already been dismissed by the FBI and Los Angeles Child and Family Services department. She started negotiating with the Russian oligarch she sold the winery to during discussions with Brad. She sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay her more money and to spite Brad. She is attempting misdirection by bringing a standard NDA like she has signed and had others sign dozens of times into the discussion - so she can turn the court case into a venue to rehash and exaggerate the same tired claims she has been making for years.

you write “she sold to the Russian oligarch because he would pay more money “. Everything you wrote is irrelevant. Why should she accept less money. No rational person would. She owes Pitt nothing. He should have matched the oligarchs price.

Although I agree with this, the problem is that she didn't give him the opportunity. It was a covert sale. As much as she didn't owe him anything, the decent thing to do would have been to give him a chance to match the offer. I think she wanted to screw him, and ensure he was subjected to a hated partner because at that moment it didn't look the custody proceedings were going her way. Although I think he did plenty to earn her anger, I don't think she handled it fairly or well. A swift "match this offer or else" in a short timeframe would have sufficed. She wanted him to suffer, it's completely clear. But it may turn out legally she had the right to handle it however she wanted.

Yes, I feel like there is a lot of obfuscation on both sides. Was she legally entitled to make a covert sale or not? I'm guessing she was. It's his stupid fault if he hadn't sufficiently protected himself in the event of a future split. I mean, what a dumb@ss.

Yeah I don't feel bad for him. They had an agreed upon deal and then he tried to change the NDA conditions. Then he's dumb enough to have text messages with his partners about hiding money and papers from her. Even the judge knows how dumb this case is and told them to wrap it up during the hearing. She was playing chess while he was playing checkers.

Whats shiloh account u speak of? I thought it was just pax?

We don’t know he tried to change NDA, that’s her claim. Probably why the judge wants to see all her NDA’s. She, or they, may have the same conditions set in her NDA’s thus she shouldn’t have been surprised by his.

He admitted he changed it.... they both provided the back and forth with trying to change it.

They were finalizing the specifics of the contract. The language he wanted said that for four years no one could disparage the business as well as its shareholders, including Angelina, Brad and their partner, Marc Perrin. That seems like pretty standard language. No one wants to buy an asset from someone for tens of millions of dollars and have that person turn around and trash them in the press. Brad was the face of the business and appeared in its advertising campaigns. Her trashing him affects the business because it is tied to his image.

They had an NDA she agreed with but he changed the conditions. He should have kept the original NDA.

The NDA is a smoke screen. Angelina was already negotiating with Stoli behind Brad’s back. She used Brad to get more money from Stoli.

Sounds like sound business advice.

Scorched earth is never a sound business practice.