Dr. Duran must go

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

I mean, maybe try to let this go. His contract was renewed. Deal with it.

Don’t ask questions! Never ask questions!

I'm not going to waste my time justifying why I like him to some anon APE parents rights nutter. It's not like I'm going to convince you.

I like him. The board likes him. You're going to have to deal or else you have a very frustrating 4 years ahead of you. Or go to private with the rest of your group.

[Anonymous]

Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

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But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

[Anonymous]

Duran playing to his DEI base

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

So that’s a yes then.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

How do you have your answer when the person you asked didn't even respond?

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping this thread, since it looks we’ve locked this guy in for another four years.

Or are you bumping because you don't like the Nottingham proposal and it's time to rally around this flag again?

I was thinking more of the persistent COVID learning loss and no plan for addressing it, the “inclusive” yet clearly unconstitutional religious holiday policy, the tendency to follow fads, and the singular focus on growing the Syphax job machine to the detriment of keeping qualified teachers in the classrooms. But sure, let’s throw in garbage planning too.

Duran is doing a bang up job at creating an equitably bad situation across the county. Goal achieved.

I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like.

When the 22207s rightly observe that the low income 22204s generally do not want their kids bussed across the county where they can’t pick them up in an emergency, you accuse the 22207s of being privileged and cynical and trying to protect their “bubble.”

There are plenty of households in 22204 that are capable of communicating their own needs. More than a small number are well educated and well off. They can speak for themselves about what they want and I will support them. But I’m not carrying their water for them.

Uh, no. I never did that.

As to your second comment, yes, there are a lot of capable 22204 people. And you know what? they HAVE spoken out MANY times. But guess what happens. The 22204s (and 02's and 06's) get dismissed. They are patronized by staff and board members in conversations. Their "asks" are outweighed by more obnoxious voices or special interests.

So, again, I'll believe the situation is equitably bad everywhere when the 22207s and the like save their strong pushbacks for the bigger issues that matter to the 22204s and the like....and join the southies in their advocacy.

What issues matter to the 22204s that are getting drowned out?

De-segregating the schools
Making boundaries that don't increase already high FRM rates while lowering already low FRM rates
Unequal enrichment and other opportunities and resources - because PTAs can't afford what others farther north provide for their schools
Crowding - which only brings out the north when it's their schools that are crowded
There's the whole Career Center/comprehensive high school with equal amenities mess
Achievement levels of students
Is that enough to get started?

Are you white? And upper SES?

Serious questions.

DP. Why does that matter here? These sound like concerns that I’ve seen many parents raise - Black and Brown included.

Thanks, I have my answer.

You had your answer in your mind before anyone answered. Yes, we’re all racist. Happy now?

And apparently I was right.

You can believe you're right all you want. The poster still didn't reply to your question.

Are you slow? Yes, we know. They didn’t NEED to “reply to (their) question.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another fan of Dr. Duran's, here. This has not been easy and I don't think he's made all the right calls, but I don't think anyone would. He's doing a good job.

Why are you a fan? What has he accomplished? Curious what you metric is?

I mean, maybe try to let this go. His contract was renewed. Deal with it.

Don’t ask questions! Never ask questions!

Cope, and move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

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But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

Glad he supports student’s rights.

There is solid overlap between the open schools now crowd and transphobia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duran playing to his DEI base

So “DEI base” includes people who support LGBTQ+ youth?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

+ 1

But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

Glad he supports student’s rights.

There is solid overlap between the open schools now crowd and transphobia.

I'm an open schools now parent and also support student's rights. But I voted for a school board candidate who was pretty openly transphobic because our schools are declining academically and one transphobic SB member can't do anything on his own. We shouldn't have to choose between good schools and human rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

+ 1

But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

Glad he supports student’s rights.

There is solid overlap between the open schools now crowd and transphobia.

I'm an open schools now parent and also support student's rights. But I voted for a school board candidate who was pretty openly transphobic because our schools are declining academically and one transphobic SB member can't do anything on his own. We shouldn't have to choose between good schools and human rights.

Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

+ 1

But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

Glad he supports student’s rights.

There is solid overlap between the open schools now crowd and transphobia.

I'm an open schools now parent and also support student's rights. But I voted for a school board candidate who was pretty openly transphobic because our schools are declining academically and one transphobic SB member can't do anything on his own. We shouldn't have to choose between good schools and human rights.

Wow.

Wow x1000. You can't say you support students' rights and try to get a transphobic a'hole on the SB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on another thread, here's one reason I support him:

From Superintendent Duran's twitter: "We are currently reviewing the model policies. I oppose any policy that infringes upon the rights of our students and threatens the safety and well-being of our LGBTQIA+ students. APS will continue to uphold our core mission and policies to ensure that every child receives equal educational access and opportunities. We fully support our transgender and LGBTQIA+ students and value the many diverse identities within our schools, where every student can authentically express themselves. As it stands now, our current PIPs in support of transgender and gender fluid students and staff remain fully in effect."

+ 1

But this is sadly exactly why some parents don't support Duran. To the parents rights contingent, this isn't a positive.

Glad he supports student’s rights.

There is solid overlap between the open schools now crowd and transphobia.

I'm an open schools now parent and also support student's rights. But I voted for a school board candidate who was pretty openly transphobic because our schools are declining academically and one transphobic SB member can't do anything on his own. We shouldn't have to choose between good schools and human rights.

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duran playing to his DEI base

That was my first instinct, but then I re-read the statement. He said they are studying the policy. He said he opposes any policy that infringes on LGBT students' rights. He says the current policy remains in place (which is obviously true - policies remain in place until they are changed). He doesn't say that the new policies clearly infringe on students' rights.

That's a curious amount of circumspection from a guy who tweeted open defiance of Youngkin's anti-masking executive order within hours (on a Saturday!).

So maybe he is playing to his base, but this is more of a rhetorical move than a substantive one. I'll be curious to see what happens over the next few months.