FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

I have no idea where Emerald Chase is but that community’s ability to game the system to get their responses to dominate the system is next level.

Yes, they are.

Tonight's meeting was for a pyramid on the other side of the county, and the Emerald Crest flooded the system with hundreds of upvotes so their posts dominated the feedback.

They had more upvotes than affected families.

Did they use bots?

One of the elementary schools, I think one of the Greenbrier, tried this on the first round of meetings, and FCPS told them to stop so other pyramids could give feedback. Greenbrier actually listened, and were very respectful of the other schools.

But the South Lakes Emerald neighborhood is just taking over.

It is really, really rude to do this to the other parts of the county that want to make their voices heard.

After seeing how they took over the meeting tonight at Robinson through some sort of bot or out of state families and friends giving feedback from a facebook request, I almost hope that Emerald neighborhood gets rezoned to where they don't want to go.

They were rude and selfish.

DP. This is exactly how I feel about certain posters on this thread who were aggressively insisting that certain neighborhoods should be moved. I've always advocated for no one's boundary to be changed, but I sincerely hope the people I'm talking about found themselves among those moved. Karma, etc.

No one has been moved at this point, but feel free to pat yourself on the back even harder.

Ah, there you are. Can't wait for you to report back when your neighborhood has been moved and you're livid about it. Karma!

[Anonymous]

Didn’t attend the meeting tonight…….did the county actually answer any questions coming in from the Emerald Chase group or any other group in attendance?

I attended the Oakton meeting yesterday and it seemed like a meeting being held for the purpose of Dr Reid saying she held a meeting. They didn’t answer any of the submitted questions.

Since these meetings were hastily moved up from the summer, it seems like they were poorly planned. They should absolutely be restricted to families in that pyramid and there should be separate meetings for the specific families being impacted by the current proposals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t attend the meeting tonight…….did the county actually answer any questions coming in from the Emerald Chase group or any other group in attendance?

I attended the Oakton meeting yesterday and it seemed like a meeting being held for the purpose of Dr Reid saying she held a meeting. They didn’t answer any of the submitted questions.

Since these meetings were hastily moved up from the summer, it seems like they were poorly planned. They should absolutely be restricted to families in that pyramid and there should be separate meetings for the specific families being impacted by the current proposals.

I’ve attended both meetings this week (one virtually and one in person) and they aren’t answering any questions or taking any feedback other than what’s in their online voting system. Both times they said that was the democratic way of determining the best feedback because whichever comments get voted up, those show the most community concern.

[Anonymous]

The whole feedback process seems terrible. How do you verify that people providing input online actually live on the affected area or even on the county? Anyone could have sent the registration link to whoever.

Exactly who does Emerald Chase want to kick out of Franklin to make room for themselves? This is really ticking me off the more I think about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t attend the meeting tonight…….did the county actually answer any questions coming in from the Emerald Chase group or any other group in attendance?

I attended the Oakton meeting yesterday and it seemed like a meeting being held for the purpose of Dr Reid saying she held a meeting. They didn’t answer any of the submitted questions.

Since these meetings were hastily moved up from the summer, it seems like they were poorly planned. They should absolutely be restricted to families in that pyramid and there should be separate meetings for the specific families being impacted by the current proposals.

I’ve attended both meetings this week (one virtually and one in person) and they aren’t answering any questions or taking any feedback other than what’s in their online voting system. Both times they said that was the democratic way of determining the best feedback because whichever comments get voted up, those show the most community concern.

They obviously don't understand how bots work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t attend the meeting tonight…….did the county actually answer any questions coming in from the Emerald Chase group or any other group in attendance?

I attended the Oakton meeting yesterday and it seemed like a meeting being held for the purpose of Dr Reid saying she held a meeting. They didn’t answer any of the submitted questions.

Since these meetings were hastily moved up from the summer, it seems like they were poorly planned. They should absolutely be restricted to families in that pyramid and there should be separate meetings for the specific families being impacted by the current proposals.

I’ve attended both meetings this week (one virtually and one in person) and they aren’t answering any questions or taking any feedback other than what’s in their online voting system. Both times they said that was the democratic way of determining the best feedback because whichever comments get voted up, those show the most community concern.

Might as well just start a thread on boundaries on Reddit and save the $500K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole feedback process seems terrible. How do you verify that people providing input online actually live on the affected area or even on the county? Anyone could have sent the registration link to whoever.

Exactly who does Emerald Chase want to kick out of Franklin to make room for themselves? This is really ticking me off the more I think about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t attend the meeting tonight…….did the county actually answer any questions coming in from the Emerald Chase group or any other group in attendance?

I attended the Oakton meeting yesterday and it seemed like a meeting being held for the purpose of Dr Reid saying she held a meeting. They didn’t answer any of the submitted questions.

Since these meetings were hastily moved up from the summer, it seems like they were poorly planned. They should absolutely be restricted to families in that pyramid and there should be separate meetings for the specific families being impacted by the current proposals.

I’ve attended both meetings this week (one virtually and one in person) and they aren’t answering any questions or taking any feedback other than what’s in their online voting system. Both times they said that was the democratic way of determining the best feedback because whichever comments get voted up, those show the most community concern.

Well clearly certain communities have now learned how to game the system, so democracy has failed us all again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole feedback process seems terrible. How do you verify that people providing input online actually live on the affected area or even on the county? Anyone could have sent the registration link to whoever.

Exactly who does Emerald Chase want to kick out of Franklin to make room for themselves? This is really ticking me off the more I think about it.

Franklin is under capacity, so maybe no one? What I find really absurd though is that they want to try to go to Chantilly which is notoriously overcrowded. It's absurd. I'd take them a lot more seriously if they were just trying to keep their kids where they are now, but NO, they're trying to change them to another middle school and high school, which sounds like it would still be disruptive to their families.

[Anonymous]

Here is the region 4 pyramid meeting feedback.

https://pigeonhole.at/TJZ4AS/q/6705517

The top 20 feedbacks are mostly from Emerald Chase, even though the affected neighborhoods in that region are from South County, WSHS and Lake Braddock neighborhoods.

The first Region 4 feedback doesn't even appear until around #20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a former Westfield grad with a decent amount of friends from the 20171 split feeder hell area… I don’t blame these families for advocating. Had a friend whose small neighborhood was split Westfield/South Lakes/Oakton

They essentially had no friends going into high school out of Carson MS

This is what my kids' school is going to be like. Our ES is the only one that is going to their high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole feedback process seems terrible. How do you verify that people providing input online actually live on the affected area or even on the county? Anyone could have sent the registration link to whoever.

Exactly who does Emerald Chase want to kick out of Franklin to make room for themselves? This is really ticking me off the more I think about it.

Franklin is under capacity, so maybe no one? What I find really absurd though is that they want to try to go to Chantilly which is notoriously overcrowded. It's absurd. I'd take them a lot more seriously if they were just trying to keep their kids where they are now, but NO, they're trying to change them to another middle school and high school, which sounds like it would still be disruptive to their families.

Sounds like it’s being organized by elementary school parents. In fact, I know this based on one of the names on their website. I hope some MS and HS parents in that community speak up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the region 4 pyramid meeting feedback.

https://pigeonhole.at/TJZ4AS/q/6705517

The top 20 feedbacks are mostly from Emerald Chase, even though the affected neighborhoods in that region are from South County, WSHS and Lake Braddock neighborhoods.

The first Region 4 feedback doesn't even appear until around #20.

People can still go in and upvote things that are not EC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the region 4 pyramid meeting feedback.

https://pigeonhole.at/TJZ4AS/q/6705517

The top 20 feedbacks are mostly from Emerald Chase, even though the affected neighborhoods in that region are from South County, WSHS and Lake Braddock neighborhoods.

The first Region 4 feedback doesn't even appear until around #20.

People can still go in and upvote things that are not EC.

They were supposed to close that after an hour. So glad Emerald Chase will have more time for their bots to do their thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole feedback process seems terrible. How do you verify that people providing input online actually live on the affected area or even on the county? Anyone could have sent the registration link to whoever.

Exactly who does Emerald Chase want to kick out of Franklin to make room for themselves? This is really ticking me off the more I think about it.

Emerald Chase parent here. We don't want to kick anyone out of Franklin -- right now Franklin has more capacity than Carson, which is where we're currently zoned, and it's expected to drop significantly in capacity in the next few years while Carson is just going to get more and more crowded. What we ultimately really want to avoid is the worst-case scenario where we would be rezoned for elementary school and high school now and five years down the road would be rezoned AGAIN for middle school and thus possibly even for high school. These proposed maps are not considering projected capacity at ANY of the schools, and it's incredibly frustrating, especially when my neighborhood has been rezoned multiple times over the past several years. We're asking for Oak Hill - Franklin - Chantilly because both Franklin and Chantilly are expected to have decreasing capacity over the next few years and thus it seems the most stable to us -- and also because we love Oak Hill and the students that go there and we don't want to be split off from them, we want our kids to stay with their friends, and almost all of Oak Hill goes to Franklin and Chantilly.

I'm sorry that we drowned out people on Pigeonhole tonight. That wasn't our intention, we're frustrated that we don't even have a meeting scheduled at any of our own pyramids when we're looking at so many changes! I'm in touch with my neighbors, and I will ask everyone to not flood the upvotes at the coming meetings.