Kavanaugh Accuser reveals her Identity

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The only independent witness to this alleged crime says she is lying. So there is that.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

What is astonishing is this lawyer close to the white house is not arguing that it is not true, but that men need to stick up & defend this

Does this really surprise you?

This is classic conservative spin. Everyone questioning the character of the victim is a republican. They basically believe any BS their party feeds them. Everything is fake news and liberal lies.

While the WH might want to move forward, Kavanaugh will not. He won't put his family through this. They'll spin it to preserve his reputation, but they won't proceed with the Supreme Court nomination.

Here's a question for you: Why do you believe the 30+ year old, fuzzy recollection of ONE woman? Understandable if there were multiple accusations, but there is one. And it's from decades ago. At any time during Kavanaugh's career, she could have come forward. Why is it that you believe her over him?

because they want him gone

Trump should have nominated someone with a clean background

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

We all know it's not his background that's concerning liberals. You didn't want him in the first place, and you'll attack any conservative nominee.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the stuff about Mark Judge's youtube account real or fake?

It's all real and if you poke around you can find stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:The only independent witness to this alleged crime says she is lying. So there is that.

No he doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what I actually expected coming to DCUM after this revelation, but I’m still disappointed that such a credible accusation has people thinking “something is fishy” and that this person is seeking 15mins of fame.

I, like others in this thread, have been sexually assaulted and told pretty much no one. Those couple I have told I did so in confidence and they would never tel anyone. FWIW, each of them had histories and experiences with sexual assault and/or abuse. Those who find this scenario unlike seem to (fortunately for them) know very little about about rape and sexual assault.

Let me explain it to you:

1) Zero hour accusation after multiple ridiculous attempts to get rid of Kavanaugh didn't work
2) She's a liberal college professor from California
3) They were high schoolers at the time of the alleged incident
4) We have zero proof this actually happened
5) She didn't even seek therapy until 2012 if it did.

And that's just the start

+100
Finally, some sanity. No one knows whether her accusation is true. Those of you blindly saying "HE DID IT!!!" are just as bad as those claiming she's lying. NO ONE KNOWS.

+1 exactly

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

What is astonishing is this lawyer close to the white house is not arguing that it is not true, but that men need to stick up & defend this

Does this really surprise you?

This is classic conservative spin. Everyone questioning the character of the victim is a republican. They basically believe any BS their party feeds them. Everything is fake news and liberal lies.

While the WH might want to move forward, Kavanaugh will not. He won't put his family through this. They'll spin it to preserve his reputation, but they won't proceed with the Supreme Court nomination.

Here's a question for you: Why do you believe the 30+ year old, fuzzy recollection of ONE woman? Understandable if there were multiple accusations, but there is one. And it's from decades ago. At any time during Kavanaugh's career, she could have come forward. Why is it that you believe her over him?

because i know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did.

You think it's okay to destroy a person's reputation because you "know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did?" The point is that perhaps he's innocent. I can hardly believe your line of reasoning, and I'm a woman.

please. spare us your false indignance. his reputation is hardly at stake. if he isn't confirmed to the supreme court, his life goes on as usual.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

But that's the thing - I could accuse your husband of sexual assault. I could accuse your sons. I don't need any proof whatsoever, just my word against theirs. So the lawyer quoted above is correct. ANY man can be brought down by accusations like this. Doesn't matter if they're true or false. All it takes is the accusation. So ask yourself - if your husband or sons were accused of sexual assault and deny it, are you going to insist they're guilty? Without any proof or witnesses - just the accuser's word?

nice try.

What part isn't true?

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

What is astonishing is this lawyer close to the white house is not arguing that it is not true, but that men need to stick up & defend this

Does this really surprise you?

This is classic conservative spin. Everyone questioning the character of the victim is a republican. They basically believe any BS their party feeds them. Everything is fake news and liberal lies.

While the WH might want to move forward, Kavanaugh will not. He won't put his family through this. They'll spin it to preserve his reputation, but they won't proceed with the Supreme Court nomination.

Here's a question for you: Why do you believe the 30+ year old, fuzzy recollection of ONE woman? Understandable if there were multiple accusations, but there is one. And it's from decades ago. At any time during Kavanaugh's career, she could have come forward. Why is it that you believe her over him?

because they want him gone

Trump should have nominated someone with a clean background

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

We all know it's not his background that's concerning liberals. You didn't want him in the first place, and you'll attack any conservative nominee.

Yes, its as if we created one set of rules for Dem presidential appointees, and another for Republican... oh wait, that's your boy McConnell.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

But that's the thing - I could accuse your husband of sexual assault. I could accuse your sons. I don't need any proof whatsoever, just my word against theirs. So the lawyer quoted above is correct. ANY man can be brought down by accusations like this. Doesn't matter if they're true or false. All it takes is the accusation. So ask yourself - if your husband or sons were accused of sexual assault and deny it, are you going to insist they're guilty? Without any proof or witnesses - just the accuser's word?

I understand what you're saying (not PP, BTW). However, the example you give is not comparable, if the husband and sons in question have average jobs. The stakes are so high and politicized here that this particular woman is receiving incredible backlash. I don't believe that in this situation, a woman would make a cold calculation to lie (with money or other reward down the road). This person has a professional reputation on the line. She has a lot to lose. She is under a ton of stress right now because of her decision to come forward. She's probably receiving threats and ugly messaging right now, just like Stormy Daniels or that woman who accused Roy Moore. Women who accuse powerful men never have it easy.

And if the roles were reversed, and this was a Democratic nominee with a Republican accuser, I am sadly convinced that Democrats would be smearing the poor accuser just like the Republicans are doing now. They're all disgusting.
But I, as a private individual, can see what's what without the bias of partisanship. And I always tend to give more weight to the accuser in those situations.

[Anonymous]

A woman could accuse a man of poisoning her dog too. That doesn't happen because: a) women aren't any more prone than men of randomly accusing people of crimes they didn't commit; and b) dog poisonings are sufficiently rare that we'd immediately be skeptical.

Sexual assault accusations are credible because they're so damn plausible. Women are being assaulted by men frequently.

It's extremely plausible that an early 80s all-boys prep school guy was forcing himself on a 15 year old girl. Is that the same as conclusive? No. But the woman has evidence that she was talking about this to a therapist 6 years ago.

The standard for criminal conviction is "beyond a reasonable doubt."
The standard for civil judgment is "preponderance of evidence."
The standard for confirmation to a lifetime appointment on the nation's most powerful court should be lower than that.
The standard for delaying the confirmation hearings for a thorough investigation is lower still. I think the accuser has met at least this standard.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

What is astonishing is this lawyer close to the white house is not arguing that it is not true, but that men need to stick up & defend this

Does this really surprise you?

This is classic conservative spin. Everyone questioning the character of the victim is a republican. They basically believe any BS their party feeds them. Everything is fake news and liberal lies.

While the WH might want to move forward, Kavanaugh will not. He won't put his family through this. They'll spin it to preserve his reputation, but they won't proceed with the Supreme Court nomination.

Here's a question for you: Why do you believe the 30+ year old, fuzzy recollection of ONE woman? Understandable if there were multiple accusations, but there is one. And it's from decades ago. At any time during Kavanaugh's career, she could have come forward. Why is it that you believe her over him?

because i know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did.

You think it's okay to destroy a person's reputation because you "know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did?" The point is that perhaps he's innocent. I can hardly believe your line of reasoning, and I'm a woman.

please. spare us your false indignance. his reputation is hardly at stake. if he isn't confirmed to the supreme court, his life goes on as usual.

No, his life won't go on as usual; and you know it. People on this thread are calling him a rapist. I'd say that's very harmful to a person's reputation.

[Anonymous]

She’s being doxxed by Russian bots on twitter.

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Anonymous wrote:I posted on one of the other threads that I met Kavanaugh in his Kirkland days. As I stated there, He came across as very chauvinistic then as well.

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Cradle Catholic.

Not surprising. Catholic parents from the area back then had very traditional roles. The dads were chauvinists. The moms were SAHMs who wore dresses and baked cupcakes.

DP. I'm not Catholic, but you sound like you have a real chip on your shoulder.

Not at all.

But I did go to catholic school in MoCo and personally observed uber conservative, racist, misogynistic behavior. Oh, and rape.

Google Opus Dei. It's the uber conservative brand of Catholicism that was more prominent in moco back in the day. Those families sent their kids to mater Dei, the heights and oakcrest. Those moms always wore dresses, and the dads were tough. Chauvinism was basically the foundation of these traditional marriages. Google it if you missed it when it was in the news when Mel Gibson went bananas and when the local FBI agent scandal was in the news.

I'm reading these threads to see if any of my former classmates share their stories. Basically every girl I know has at least one story about a guy or group of guys crossing a line. There was a broad spectrum from harassment to actual gang rape.

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Anonymous wrote:The only independent witness to this alleged crime says she is lying. So there is that.

No he doesn’t.

His alibi only says that he doesn't recall. His alibi also says of himself that he was a blackout drunk in high school, so it's no surprise that he doesn't remember.

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Anonymous wrote:Even the White House is not standing by Kavanaugh. They provided "no comment" - normally, they would reaffirm support and claim the nominee did nothing wrong.

So if Trump isn't standing by him, why is anyone here standing by him?

Not an official statement, but per Politico:

A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. “No way, not even a hint of it. If anything, it’s the opposite. If somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.”


Ok, so the suggestion is, every man has done this. Uh, no. Only in GOP Trump World is this the case.

What is astonishing is this lawyer close to the white house is not arguing that it is not true, but that men need to stick up & defend this

Does this really surprise you?

This is classic conservative spin. Everyone questioning the character of the victim is a republican. They basically believe any BS their party feeds them. Everything is fake news and liberal lies.

While the WH might want to move forward, Kavanaugh will not. He won't put his family through this. They'll spin it to preserve his reputation, but they won't proceed with the Supreme Court nomination.

Here's a question for you: Why do you believe the 30+ year old, fuzzy recollection of ONE woman? Understandable if there were multiple accusations, but there is one. And it's from decades ago. At any time during Kavanaugh's career, she could have come forward. Why is it that you believe her over him?

because i know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did.

You think it's okay to destroy a person's reputation because you "know many, many women with stories like hers, and just as many men with a grab-ass excuse to justify what they did?" The point is that perhaps he's innocent. I can hardly believe your line of reasoning, and I'm a woman.

please. spare us your false indignance. his reputation is hardly at stake. if he isn't confirmed to the supreme court, his life goes on as usual.

No, his life won't go on as usual; and you know it. People on this thread are calling him a rapist. I'd say that's very harmful to a person's reputation.

oh please, he'll be just fine. he's a well connected white man.