FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

The current Westfield boundary makes no sense. The area north of 28 is functionally an island, split from the rest by the airport and associated property. Chantilly has so many trailers and modulars, and some are very old and falling apart. KAA will allow them to get rid of the old ones and not spend money replacing them. This area has always been targeted as the next area of need for a new high school. Capacity is just one reason, the distances kids are bussed is another very big one. You can't fix that by expanding all the adjoining schools to 3000+ kids. Most people don't want their children attending 3000+ high schools either.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

The current Westfield boundary makes no sense. The area north of 28 is functionally an island, split from the rest by the airport and associated property. Chantilly has so many trailers and modulars, and some are very old and falling apart. KAA will allow them to get rid of the old ones and not spend money replacing them. This area has always been targeted as the next area of need for a new high school. Capacity is just one reason, the distances kids are bussed is another very big one. You can't fix that by expanding all the adjoining schools to 3000+ kids. Most people don't want their children attending 3000+ high schools either.

FCPS is projecting that Chantilly's enrollment will decline by over 300 students over the next five years.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

The current Westfield boundary makes no sense. The area north of 28 is functionally an island, split from the rest by the airport and associated property. Chantilly has so many trailers and modulars, and some are very old and falling apart. KAA will allow them to get rid of the old ones and not spend money replacing them. This area has always been targeted as the next area of need for a new high school. Capacity is just one reason, the distances kids are bussed is another very big one. You can't fix that by expanding all the adjoining schools to 3000+ kids. Most people don't want their children attending 3000+ high schools either.

A "functional" island? Sorry, but that's a made-up term. It's not considered an attendance island by either FCPS or their consultants. And it's not even accurate. Dulles is to the west and not between the areas zoned to Westfield.

Guessing you want Centreville kids reassigned to a school you don't want your kids to attend.

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The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

DP. I think your premise that PP wants to get into a better school is flawed. We are currently zoned for Oakton but live in an area that could get rezoned to KAA if it were to become a regular high school. I am not seeing how KAA would be “better” than Oakton other than being smaller and a nicer building. The schools that would feed into KAA would likely be much more socioeconomically diverse than those that currently feed into Oakton. I think some people will be upset if they get moved from Oakton to KAA. I wouldn’t say KAA is likely to be better than Chantilly either. Maybe better than South Lakes or Westfield but probably not in any measurable way. I really think PP is someone who would just prefer their kids attend a HS closer to home and maybe sees a benefit to a smaller HS. That’s not the same as being moved out of a “bad” school.

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The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

1. They just closed on the property.
2. There is a formal policy/process for the boundaries of a new school.
3. Hopefully, they will scale way back on this county wide boundary study--especially since overcrowding at Chantilly was one of the reasons thrown out as a need for relief. They now have the excuse to pull back on the county wide thing. They will do something to save face. From what I see, there are some elementary schools that could use some adjustment--especially Coates, which should have had relief this year.

there is a process for new schools but there will be ripple affects from the kids who move to the new school. the kids from centreville and possibly chantilly that move into westfield i don’t think count in that process. this should all be looped in main boundary study. its dumb not to

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

My vested interest is that I am a taxpayer on the other side of the county who cares about schools, neighborhoods and stability.

I will be pissed if my taxpayer dollars go to create another magnet school for a handful of people to fight over, instead of a neighborhood high school for people who live within a reasonable distance, that can possibly streamline the disastrous, disruptive and wasteful middle school feeder patterns in that part of the county, and hopefully provide some long term stability in that part of county to minimize future rezoning that no one wants.

I think this purchase is a good use of taxpayer funds, but only if it is not used to create a magnet school but is instead used as a neighborhood high school to stabilize feeder patterns, help with overcrowding, and provides long term stability.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

I agree with this. Students shouldn’t have to travel too far to go to high school. Who would want to waste at least an hour each day on the school bus and/or car? Add to that, more traffic on roads and air pollution, plus wear and tear on roads.

However there are some on this thread who happily schlep their high schoolers 10 plus miles, and will fight tooth and nail to avoid sending them to one that is 3-4 miles away, and it seems like they will get their way. So, apparently distance from high schools may not weigh as much when drawing boundary lines. So don’t get your hopes up. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

I agree with this. Students shouldn’t have to travel too far to go to high school. Who would want to waste at least an hour each day on the school bus and/or car? Add to that, more traffic on roads and air pollution, plus wear and tear on roads.

However there are some on this thread who happily schlep their high schoolers 10 plus miles, and will fight tooth and nail to avoid sending them to one that is 3-4 miles away, and it seems like they will get their way. So, apparently distance from high schools may not weigh as much when drawing boundary lines. So don’t get your hopes up. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

I agree with this. Students shouldn’t have to travel too far to go to high school. Who would want to waste at least an hour each day on the school bus and/or car? Add to that, more traffic on roads and air pollution, plus wear and tear on roads.

However there are some on this thread who happily schlep their high schoolers 10 plus miles, and will fight tooth and nail to avoid sending them to one that is 3-4 miles away, and it seems like they will get their way. So, apparently distance from high schools may not weigh as much when drawing boundary lines. So don’t get your hopes up. Sorry.

You are such a transparent, broken record it's comical.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

The current Westfield boundary makes no sense. The area north of 28 is functionally an island, split from the rest by the airport and associated property. Chantilly has so many trailers and modulars, and some are very old and falling apart. KAA will allow them to get rid of the old ones and not spend money replacing them. This area has always been targeted as the next area of need for a new high school. Capacity is just one reason, the distances kids are bussed is another very big one. You can't fix that by expanding all the adjoining schools to 3000+ kids. Most people don't want their children attending 3000+ high schools either.

A "functional" island? Sorry, but that's a made-up term. It's not considered an attendance island by either FCPS or their consultants. And it's not even accurate. Dulles is to the west and not between the areas zoned to Westfield.

Guessing you want Centreville kids reassigned to a school you don't want your kids to attend.

The airport authority owns the land all the way down to 28. Follow the Air and Space Museum Parkway on the map if you don't believe me. The residential area north of 28 that goes to Westfield is in no way connected to the rest of the school attendance area. That's why they'll all be going to the new school.

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The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

The current Westfield boundary makes no sense. The area north of 28 is functionally an island, split from the rest by the airport and associated property. Chantilly has so many trailers and modulars, and some are very old and falling apart. KAA will allow them to get rid of the old ones and not spend money replacing them. This area has always been targeted as the next area of need for a new high school. Capacity is just one reason, the distances kids are bussed is another very big one. You can't fix that by expanding all the adjoining schools to 3000+ kids. Most people don't want their children attending 3000+ high schools either.

A "functional" island? Sorry, but that's a made-up term. It's not considered an attendance island by either FCPS or their consultants. And it's not even accurate. Dulles is to the west and not between the areas zoned to Westfield.

Guessing you want Centreville kids reassigned to a school you don't want your kids to attend.

The airport authority owns the land all the way down to 28. Follow the Air and Space Museum Parkway on the map if you don't believe me. The residential area north of 28 that goes to Westfield is in no way connected to the rest of the school attendance area. That's why they'll all be going to the new school.

Sub 50 for 28 in the post above. Been a long day.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

I agree with this. Students shouldn’t have to travel too far to go to high school. Who would want to waste at least an hour each day on the school bus and/or car? Add to that, more traffic on roads and air pollution, plus wear and tear on roads.

However there are some on this thread who happily schlep their high schoolers 10 plus miles, and will fight tooth and nail to avoid sending them to one that is 3-4 miles away, and it seems like they will get their way. So, apparently distance from high schools may not weigh as much when drawing boundary lines. So don’t get your hopes up. Sorry.

You are such a transparent, broken record it's comical.
DP

What part was not true?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the KAA sale go through? Wasn’t it supposed to close on 8/12?

The deal was supposed to have closed by 8/14, not 8/12. I would have thought there'd be a follow-up announcement if they were so sure this was actually a good deal.

Going to keep writhing until the bitter end I see. The deal closed, it's over. Might as well accept it.

No fanfare suggests there might be some buyer’s remorse. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Or they're waiting until Monday because the Title IX email came out on Friday and they tend not to send out two emails about two different things on the same day.

The FCPS media department posted three different items on Friday, so that's probably not the issue. But if you're one of Reid's flunkies, maybe you can pull together an email this week (or not).

I don't work for FCPS but I do live in the area that is going to be served by this high school. I think mommies like you that seem to hate our school system so much really should move. You have plenty of options. I hear great thinks about Prince Wiliiam and Loudon. Maybe their values are more similar to yours, too. You would be happier there.

Or maybe you're just the type of person who has nothing better to do than complain, complain, complain about everything. Do you have any friends? I'm guessing no.

Ooh, snap.

No, it’s just clear this is a muted roll-out from folks who apparently thought they were getting a bargain but then realized they were even sure what they were buying.

DP. What is it like to live in your own little world where you just make up your own reality? I see people (or maybe it’s just you) do this a lot when discussing FCPS decisions and actions. Trust me I am no fan of how the school board and Reid are going about things these days but it’s just bizarre to see people like you just fully make up intents and motives of people you have never met. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In this case they just don’t really have any new info to share so no point in sending an email.

When they voted to buy KAA, one of the conditions was to close by August 14th.

August 14th came and went, and they did not tell the public whether the purchase closed. Some people came on here and said they closed on August 15th, a day later, but still no confirmation by FCPS.

One way or the other, they ought to tell people whether they closed the deal. If they actually had clear plans for this building, they ought to share them, too, but that's probably asking for too much. It's not making up ANYTHING to point out key questions about this transaction still remain unanswered, whether it's because they are unwilling to share the information or because they don't know themselves.

Some would think our elected School Board ought to have a decent plan in mind before they drop over $150 million in taxpayer money on a buidling, but others are fine with their doing so as long as they think they might benefit personally.

Here’s what you need to know: the school board does not care about you or what you think or want. They will do whatever they think is best regardless of your opinion. They do not feel they owe you anything and any input they ask for is generally just for show. You will be happier i

My post got cut off. You will be happier if you accept this fact and focus on other things in your life. If you hate it so much you really are better off moving because life is short and you seem to be spending a lot of energy being mad about something over which you have no control.

Thanks, but some of us will continue to call out FCPS and its School Board for its incompetence and lack of transparency. If that bothers you, move on to other threads.

Agree that our School Board usually makes terrible decisions. However, this decision was a good on and rights a wrong from a few years ago when they let that property go. (Honestly, I'm sure they had great pressure from the BOS who likely had pressure from the federal government to save an embarrassing and sensitive situation.)
There is actually a need for this school.

It was more than a few years ago that they transferred that property to the Saudis. Since then they've expanded a number of other schools. Going by their own forecasts, adding another high school just creates more excess capacity by SY 2029-30. And there's no cost/benefit analysis to say KAA was the best use of supposedly limited FCPS funds.

Tell that to the kids in the area being split in different directions out of their area. Please remember, THRU plans to split additional neighborhoods and send kids on a 40 minute plus bus ride. This eliminates that plan.

And, which "expanded" schools are supposed to absorb these kids instead of putting them on long bus rides?

We'd already heard the sloppy Thru proposals are going to be substantially revised. You don't get to leverage that to justify a new school when the CIP shows substantial excess capacity in the aggregate by 2029 in the schools serving western Fairfax.

At a minimum, they should be committing now to scaling back the Centreville expansion substantially and canceling the Dunn Loring project entirely if they are spending over $150 M on this property. Otherwise other renovations just get delayed and other areas in need just continue to get screwed.

The area around KAA has been in need for a very long time. Centreville expansion may be scaled back. Changes and adjustments have been made many times through the years.
Get over it.

It's telling that they haven't identified the schools whose boundaries stand to be adjusted if this school becomes a typical HS rather than a specialized program, or it could delay the ongoing boundary review, yet they say it could open in the fall of 2026. Aim, ready, fire!

That new site better not become a magnet program.

It needs to be a real high school, attended by students within a maximum 15-20 minutes drive from the school. It also needs to contribute towards making as many middle schools as possible in that area into single feeder middle schools.

I get you have a vested interest, but dude, unless you inherited the house, you knew full and well the boundaries when you purchased it. Stop acting entitled.

Ironic, since neighborhoods near KAA have been shifted several times since many purchased their houses. So, your premise is incorrect. The area would like some stability.

DP, but the high school boundaries near KAA were last changed over 15 years ago. You don't want stability, you want a different school.

This area is split into four different high schools. Hopefully, that will end. And, don't forget, both Chantilly and Westfield need relief. You seem to forget that. In fact, Chantilly kids are being proposed for a 40 minute plus bus ride. In addition, there is lots of new construction.

One can always come up with an "area" split into multiple high schools. Vienna splits to Madison, Marshall, Oakton, South Lakes, McLean, and Falls Church. Annandale splits to Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson. Should we insist on a single high school for each of Vienna and Annandale?

Chantilly and Westfield are both projected by FCPS to have surplus capacity in the coming years. It's in the latest CIP.

And there is new construction in other parts of the county. Did they do any analysis before deciding this area in particular deserves more seats now? If so, they haven't shared it, and the last CIP didn't call for any significant investment in a new western HS for at least six more years. New construction doesn't necessarily translate into enrollment growth because the additional students from a new development can vary and be negated by declines in enrollment from a school's existing neighborhoods.

What you want - and are thrilled the SB is apparently willing to use our money to fund - is a new school that you think will be better than your current school. The schools you want to avoid may decline further if they send kids to KAA, and the families asked to backfill those schools won't be thrilled, either. They will drag this out, and likely refuse to provide details for as long as possible, but when the honeymoon is over it's going to get ugly.

No. You don't get to decide what we want. What my neighborhood wants is a school that is a reasonable distance and will be a community school. We would like to be able to have our kids make friends that don't live miles and miles away. We want them to be able to participate in after school activities without having to depend on a late bus that takes forever. We would like a middle school that is not a 3/4 way split.

And, you can say there is NEW construction everywhere, but there is current new construction in this area and all the schools are full.

I agree with this. Students shouldn’t have to travel too far to go to high school. Who would want to waste at least an hour each day on the school bus and/or car? Add to that, more traffic on roads and air pollution, plus wear and tear on roads.

However there are some on this thread who happily schlep their high schoolers 10 plus miles, and will fight tooth and nail to avoid sending them to one that is 3-4 miles away, and it seems like they will get their way. So, apparently distance from high schools may not weigh as much when drawing boundary lines. So don’t get your hopes up. Sorry.

You are such a transparent, broken record it's comical.
DP

What part was not true?

DP. You’re just spewing your hateful opinion, so it is neither true nor false.

Your hatred of one particular pyramid, man, that will be studied by psychologists for centuries to come. With all that is going on in our area, it’s absurd that you continue to focus on your pet project so much, and hate so much the schooling decisions that some parents make for their own kids.