Petition: Later MCPS school start times

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

The BOE also chose to make things the way they are now when they reviewed this a couple years ago. The matter is settled.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

The BOE also chose to make things the way they are now when they reviewed this a couple years ago. The matter is settled.

The BoE can change their collective mind. Nothing prohibiting it.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

The BOE also chose to make things the way they are now when they reviewed this a couple years ago. The matter is settled.

The BoE can change their collective mind. Nothing prohibiting it.

DP. They can, but since all of the constraints are still the same from when they made that decision, I don't know why they would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Really? Although my dc doesn’t take a bus —do you really see public buses taking on the liability of getting kids too and from school safety? Would your kid ride a metro bus? I don’t think so.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

So, you’d deny your child an activity as you are too lazy to make it work. So, you cannot enforce bedtime. You cannot be bothered with other things. Why have kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

Really? Why don’t we get it? Can you drive my kids if you want later and we have to get to work?

Here it's 1.5miles on the shortest safe route. Some crossings are considered unsafe.

In MCPS? We were told at least two miles.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

So if there aren't public buses for the kids to take, then the kids walk. If Connecticut Ave is safe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross, then it's also safe for B-CC HS kids to cross. If Connecticut Ave is unsafe for B-CC HS kids to cross, then it's also unsafe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross. So, which is it?

I don’t think it’s safe for any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

The BOE also chose to make things the way they are now when they reviewed this a couple years ago. The matter is settled.

The BoE can change their collective mind. Nothing prohibiting it.

Never, this was the best possible solution. The matter is closed. Time to let it go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

Really? Why don’t we get it? Can you drive my kids if you want later and we have to get to work?

Here it's 1.5miles on the shortest safe route. Some crossings are considered unsafe.

In MCPS? We were told at least two miles.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/rules/riding

1.5 miles is middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

So if there aren't public buses for the kids to take, then the kids walk. If Connecticut Ave is safe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross, then it's also safe for B-CC HS kids to cross. If Connecticut Ave is unsafe for B-CC HS kids to cross, then it's also unsafe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross. So, which is it?

Each school area is analyzed individually. Different parts of the same road will have different levels of traffic volume, numbers of traffic lights and crosswalks, history of accidents, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

It's a choice to do that activity.

So, you’d deny your child an activity as you are too lazy to make it work. So, you cannot enforce bedtime. You cannot be bothered with other things. Why have kids?

What are you talking about, and who is the intended target of your insults??

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

So if there aren't public buses for the kids to take, then the kids walk. If Connecticut Ave is safe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross, then it's also safe for B-CC HS kids to cross. If Connecticut Ave is unsafe for B-CC HS kids to cross, then it's also unsafe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross. So, which is it?

Each school area is analyzed individually. Different parts of the same road will have different levels of traffic volume, numbers of traffic lights and crosswalks, history of accidents, etc.

Connnecticut Avenue in Chevy Chase (apparently not safe for B-CC students) is more dangerous than Connecticut Avenue in North Kensington, Wheaton, and Aspen Hill (apparently safe for Einstein and Wheaton students)? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

So if there aren't public buses for the kids to take, then the kids walk. If Connecticut Ave is safe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross, then it's also safe for B-CC HS kids to cross. If Connecticut Ave is unsafe for B-CC HS kids to cross, then it's also unsafe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross. So, which is it?

I don’t think it’s safe for any of them.

Which means that MCPS should have to spend even more money on school buses and school bus drivers, because the roads aren't safe. Which even further constrains MCPS's ability to adjust school start times.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Really? Although my dc doesn’t take a bus —do you really see public buses taking on the liability of getting kids too and from school safety? Would your kid ride a metro bus? I don’t think so.

Kids actually do ride RideOn and Metro buses to and from school. Even middle-schoolers. Montgomery County has a whole Kids Ride Free program.