Petition: Later MCPS school start times

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

Really? Why don’t we get it? Can you drive my kids if you want later and we have to get to work?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's some anecdotal evidence:
I teach middle school (6,7,8) and several of my students tell me they are on their phones all night and regularly go to sleep at 1-2 am, even my youngest students. Just a reminder to parents: if you allow your children to have a mobile device on their nightstand, they will most likely not make mature decisions (duh).

I see my kids friends posting at all hours. Phones stay in our bedroom.

We use parental controls to kill device internet connections at 9pm.

Except cell phones have cellular data and there are ways around it. And, you can still play games without the internet.

You really think your kids follow those rules. Right. That’s why your kids cannot get out of bed.
No, the children cannot play games if the family rules say they cannot.

Who the eff is running your household? Take the devices away if your kids cannot obey mom and dad.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

That’s not equitable. How is that allowed?

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

That’s not equitable. How is that allowed?

There is no true equity in MCSP. How is it allowed? Because they cater to the richer parts of town.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

We don’t get bus service and we are slightly less than two mikes. So, maybe only your rich school. So, we have to drive. A late start would be an issue with driving so if you want the late start we need a school bus.

You don't HAVE to drive. You CHOOSE to drive. I might make the same choice as you, under the circumstances (which I don't know what they are), but it is a choice. It is certainly not impossible for most high school students to walk 35 minutes to school and 35 minutes home.

Let’s see. We have multiple major roads, few sidewalks, not grossing guards, it’s dark out when they have to leave….i don’t see that as a choice. And, if they walked home 35 minutes they’d be late for other things. Not all of our kids sit home playing on their phones.

That part is totally a choice.

Its not a choice if thats the time the activity is scheduled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

Really? Why don’t we get it? Can you drive my kids if you want later and we have to get to work?

Here it's 1.5miles on the shortest safe route. Some crossings are considered unsafe.

[Anonymous]

I'm fine with later start times if you can get everyone at a HS to opt out of school busses.

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Anonymous wrote:So many decisions are made based on free transportation. Snow days, flooded roads, start times, end times. It’s ridiculous. We need to do away with school buses, boost the public buses and make decisions based on what’s best for our kids.

Seriously? We’re going to have public buses running through all the developments and cul-de-sacs of MoCo? Or are kids going to walk a mile out of their neighborhoods to get to the main roads?

Many areas don't have easy access to public transportation. The MCPS rule for HS is 2 miles regardless of the conditions. We have two major roads and few street have sidewalks. We have to drive back and forth. So, the early start is better to drop off before work.

That is incorrect. MCPS provides school bus service to a lot of high school students who live less than 2 miles from the high school.

And mostly when there are major roads to cross.

We have two major roads in several different directions. Multiple more other directions. No crossing guards.

We live a little less than 2 miles from our high school and our kids have to cross a multi lane state route without a crossing guard (although there are traffic lights) and we don’t get bus service, despite families appealing to the school district. How major does a major road have to be for high school students who live less than 2 miles from their school to get bus service?

It depends on the area. B-CC kids who live across Connecticut Ave get school bus service. Wheaton kids and Einstein kids who live across Connecticut Ave are expected to walk.

There is Conn., Viers Mill, University, and Georgia for these kids. So, someone want them walking in the dark, not all housing areas have sidewalks, for up to two miles.

Yes, the kids walk, or take public buses.

Public busses don't go everywhere.

So if there aren't public buses for the kids to take, then the kids walk. If Connecticut Ave is safe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross, then it's also safe for B-CC HS kids to cross. If Connecticut Ave is unsafe for B-CC HS kids to cross, then it's also unsafe for Wheaton HS and Einstein HS kids to cross. So, which is it?