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Anonymous
Show me where anyone said P/W or JO were "awful"? Your obvious inferiority complex makes you incapable of rational thought. LT is a better school with better educational outcomes. That is a "fact". No one said that makes P/W or JO kids bad people or less capable. But the outcomes are better. What's funny about your reply is that this mini-drama started when someone defended Captain Obvious (who was defending the Cluster status quo) by saying LT parents were "force memeing" (whatever that means) that LT was a better school than P/W. First, LT is a better school, and second, that poster took a shot at LT. I did not such thing. You need to work on your self confidence lady. |
Anonymous
So you acknowledge that Watkins and SH are excluding the other feeder schools? |
Anonymous
I’m curious what you meant by “just like Brent and Maury now” especially with the undertone that that would be absurd to suggest. Maury’s IB percentage is insane and the school is busting so that % isn’t high because the school is artificially small. In that sense, Maury is way ahead of the other two. LT is actually only a few percent behind Brent. In terms of test scores, LT’s were better this time without even accounting for demographics in ELA; and worse in math, though basically equivalent broken down by demographics. So, in that sense, it seems LT is roughly equivalent to the other two schools. Facilities wise, LT is not as nice as brand new Maury, but much nicer than about to be renovated Brent. Now, if what you mean by “just like” is “as white,” then no… LT is not just like the other two because it remains actually racially diverse, at least for now. It is not T1, it has a very involved PTO with a budget of $140K this year and it’s plurality white… If you’re still scoffing at the notion that LT is just like the other two schools, ask yourself what you’re really looking for. |
Anonymous
If the Watkins PTA is unintentionally making fewer LT kids take a chance on SH, do you think they shouldn’t care? Watkins would be better off if more LT kids stayed and vice versa. I would have thought that was obvious. Who cares which school is better? |
Anonymous
You accuse other posters of being tone deaf while implying that Watkins PTA should be able to “throw up the doors” to SH… which, you know, is not their actual school any more than it is JO and LT’s school? |
Anonymous
Your are of course, correct. But PP to whom you are responding isn't trying to solve for improving SH or in boundary engagement. They've made it clear this is all about preserving their feelings. As long as they feel more special than others, that's the point of the exercise. Anyone who wants to be included in their special club needs to do it in a way that preserves their feelings of superiority. |
Anonymous
She lacks the self-awareness to comprehend what she did there. |
Anonymous
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What an obtuse exchange. You've all lost the forest for the trees.
SH isn't worth the fuss, not remotely. Let the SH admins and parent organization favor their counterparts at Watkins. Not relevant. The rest of us will be off to charters no matter who they do or don't favor. |
Anonymous
| fighting over scraps |
Anonymous
Just weighing in as a family in this situation, and this is spot on. And it's really the way that behavioral issues interact with academics that pushes you to start looking at charters. Our kid is mostly on grade level academically, maybe a little above grade level in ELA. But not an academic superstar. But one of the main things she has going for her in a DCPS elementary is that she is attentive, a good listener, has strong emotional regulation skills, and no behavioral concerns. As we progress in elementary, what this means is that she is used as an emotional regulator in some groups (assigned to pairs and groups with kids who struggle with these things, in the hopes she will be a tempering influence) or is left to her own devices while teachers focus on kids who need more one-to-one help with behavioral issues, since she can function independently without help. At first this doesn't seem like such a bad thing. I recognize many of the kids with bigger issues are dealing with issues my child had never dealt with. I also think it's positive for her to learn to work independently, and to learn to work with different kinds of people. But the situation gets more pronounced past ECE, as some of the other kids with her emotiona/behavioral skills leave for other schools. This makes it harder for her to make friends because where in younger grades she would have gravitated to the other quiet, studious kids in class, she might not find another such kid in mid-to-late elementary. And we start to worry that what was benign neglect may actually hold her back, especially as we get closer to middle school. It was one thing when she was one of the early readers in class, and could sit and read or work on writing while the teachers provided intensive phonics help to other kids. But now she needs to be refining writing and critical thinking skills, and it doesn't feel like that's happening at schools. We're supplementing, but that takes time away from other activities, including just playing and building friendships. We're not going to make it past 4th in DCPS and there is no way our kid is going to SH. It's not the right environment for her and I think both academically and socially, she will do much better in an environment where there are more kids who are working at her level academically and not struggling with basic behavioral expectations. I don't expect a school with no behavioral problems. But we have the option, through the lottery or by moving, to send her to a school where the majority of kids have basic emotional regulation skills. I'm no longer convinced we can find that in DCPS at the MS and HS level. |
Anonymous
What an obtuse response. It isn't relevant to you because you plan to not attend. It is relevant to people who are, or may, attend. Are you so self centered that you can't understand that the world doesn't revolve around you? Or why it matters that SH doesn't embrace and deepen relationships with its feeder schools? Nevermind, we already know. Yes, you are that self centered. Carry on. P.S. Love that someone who is years away from MS has such fixed opinions on things he doesn't yet have experience with. How very DCUM. |
Anonymous
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How old are your children?
Dream on where obtuse responses go. We stuck with our DCPS from ECE through 5th grade (not a Hobson feeder but we're IB for SH). We recently tried SH for 6th after striking out in the Latin and BASIS lotteries two years in a row. We bailed on SH at mid-year in 6th for a spot that opened up in a parochial school (as I posted pages back). The reality is that the number of UMC Hill families who plan on SH and stick with the plan through 8th grade remains tiny. As far as I know, almost all of the UMC families at SH with us had hoped for BASIS or Latin. |
Anonymous
“Years away” lol. Very common for a parent if young children go myopically say this without realizing how quickly the years pass without meaningful changes at the MS level. |
Anonymous
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This. SH is actually going downhill. They scrapped honors English this school year and last, after a decade of offering it, on the grounds that the PARCC test wasn't given during the pandemic.
They could easily have given entering students a home-grown ELA assessment to make intelligent placements. They couldn't be bothered so your middle schooler winds up in ELA class with a bunch of students who can barely read. Not clear if honors English will be restored in the future. |
Anonymous
| Ugh. |