Why are book banners showing up at FCPS SB meetings

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

DP. Can you give some examples from FCPS board meetings of political stunts by people of other views?

Omeish's 9/11 bit.

I agree Omeish is awful. The 9/11 thing and the anti-Israel tweets. But, nobody went along with her and there a substantial backlash. And both times she had to backtrack and apologize. I don’t support crazy book banning lady, and I’ve signed Omeish’s recall petition. Her stunts aren’t any better.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

Agreed. Folks claiming astroturfing, "tantrums", and inserting politics are deflecting and distracting, as they know it's a losing battle. I presume that most other folks are like me, a concerned parent who believes that this content is not appropriate for school libraries. FWIW, and as stated repeatedly by others, most parents would be equally upset if the same content was hetero. But, again, if you can't defend, attack and distract...

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

Agreed. Folks claiming astroturfing, "tantrums", and inserting politics are deflecting and distracting, as they know it's a losing battle. I presume that most other folks are like me, a concerned parent who believes that this content is not appropriate for school libraries. FWIW, and as stated repeatedly by others, most parents would be equally upset if the same content was hetero. But, again, if you can't defend, attack and distract...

Why are you "concerned" about this particular content vs. all of the rest of mature content in FCPS libraries?

I don't see any of these parents here actually upset about the similarly-mature hetero content. Where are all of the other tweets and complaints to librarians/principals?

You choose ignorance about mature content until someone honks the GOP concern horn. It's 100% faux concern.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

Agreed. Folks claiming astroturfing, "tantrums", and inserting politics are deflecting and distracting, as they know it's a losing battle. I presume that most other folks are like me, a concerned parent who believes that this content is not appropriate for school libraries. FWIW, and as stated repeatedly by others, most parents would be equally upset if the same content was hetero. But, again, if you can't defend, attack and distract...

Why are you "concerned" about this particular content vs. all of the rest of mature content in FCPS libraries?

I don't see any of these parents here actually upset about the similarly-mature hetero content. Where are all of the other tweets and complaints to librarians/principals?

You choose ignorance about mature content until someone honks the GOP concern horn. It's 100% faux concern.

DP, but the Republicans should be sending you flowers, because you make the local Democrats look so arrogant and pretentious. There are a whole host of concerns with FCPS these days that completely transcend party lines, and in every instance you malign those raising the concerns and assume they are politically driven. At some point people are going to align with the party whose values they are constantly told they must be espousing.

- Independent who quit the local Dems within the past year

[Anonymous]

Isn't it upsetting when the opposite political party scores a point.

Politicians gonna politick.

Do better Dems and stop defending this. Right now you are scoring own goals left and right.

But I guess you are true believers in this kind of content being available in school libraries.

It's the only explanation for all this passionate defense.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

Agreed. Folks claiming astroturfing, "tantrums", and inserting politics are deflecting and distracting, as they know it's a losing battle. I presume that most other folks are like me, a concerned parent who believes that this content is not appropriate for school libraries. FWIW, and as stated repeatedly by others, most parents would be equally upset if the same content was hetero. But, again, if you can't defend, attack and distract...

Why are you "concerned" about this particular content vs. all of the rest of mature content in FCPS libraries?

I don't see any of these parents here actually upset about the similarly-mature hetero content. Where are all of the other tweets and complaints to librarians/principals?

You choose ignorance about mature content until someone honks the GOP concern horn. It's 100% faux concern.

DP, but the Republicans should be sending you flowers, because you make the local Democrats look so arrogant and pretentious. There are a whole host of concerns with FCPS these days that completely transcend party lines, and in every instance you malign those raising the concerns and assume they are politically driven. At some point people are going to align with the party whose values they are constantly told they must be espousing.

- Independent who quit the local Dems within the past year

“Concerns” based on facts — or misinformation.

Funny how some people are only “concerned” when they are told to be concerned. Someone who was sincerely concerned would be identifying and addressing all the mature content. Not just that selected by anti-LQBTQ+ groups…

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it upsetting when the opposite political party scores a point.

Politicians gonna politick.

Do better Dems and stop defending this. Right now you are scoring own goals left and right.

But I guess you are true believers in this kind of content being available in school libraries.

It's the only explanation for all this passionate defense.

I think the books are fine, but it’s up to the review committee to decide.

I don’t think the GOP hurting our schools and kids with these games is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it upsetting when the opposite political party scores a point.

Politicians gonna politick.

Do better Dems and stop defending this. Right now you are scoring own goals left and right.

But I guess you are true believers in this kind of content being available in school libraries.

It's the only explanation for all this passionate defense.

Don’t you have updated talking points yet? These retreads are getting old. Check and see what you re supposed to post today, so we can move the conversation forward.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.
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So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess? [/quote]

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.
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Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.[/quote]

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

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It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? [b]Because sunlight is the best disinfectant.[/b] And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?[/quote]

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess. [/quote]

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.
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I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.[/quote]

Of course, I'm equally opposed. I have zero tolerance for people who F with our schools or kids.

People can speak - within boundaries - and they can also get reamed for their political stunts. And, if they go beyond the boundaries of what is appropriate for a televised school board meeting, they may be fined by the FCC.
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A speaker at a public forum cannot be fined by the FCC.

[Anonymous]

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

Exactly. There are plenty of ways to ways to address sincere concerns about FCPS books/materials that don’t involve political stunts.

Or don’t involve astroturfers like Asra pushing hysterics.

I assume that you are equally opposed to political stunts by those whose viewpoints you support? Or it is a one-way street.?

Agree or disagree, school board meetings are a public forum. There is broad First Amendment protection. People can and should bring up any issue that it is important to them.

DP. Can you give some examples from FCPS board meetings of political stunts by people of other views?

The PP's complaint was about political stunts in a public forum. It doesn't matter if it's at a school board meeting, or a zoning meeting, or in a public park. There are plenty of examples of people on both sides acting like fools in public fora.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it upsetting when the opposite political party scores a point.

Politicians gonna politick.

Do better Dems and stop defending this. Right now you are scoring own goals left and right.

But I guess you are true believers in this kind of content being available in school libraries.

It's the only explanation for all this passionate defense.

I think the books are fine, but it’s up to the review committee to decide.

I don’t think the GOP hurting our schools and kids with these games is fine.

The Dems have 100% control of the school board.

The GOP doesn't own any of their successes or failures, so Dems don't get to scapegoat them for anything just as the GOP can claim any wins for something the Dems did.

[Anonymous]

a speaker at a public forum cannot be fined by the FCC.

Citation?

[Anonymous]

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a speaker at a public forum cannot be fined by the FCC.

Citation?

U.S. Const. amend. I.

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a speaker at a public forum cannot be fined by the FCC.

Citation?

U.S. Const. amend. I.

Hint: Actual FCC rulings would be a start…but since it appears you pulled that out of your sphincter so we won’t wait on you.

[Anonymous]

Since I’m sure you won’t do the research:

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/fcc-and-freedom-speech

“ For example, the Courts have said that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution and cannot be banned entirely. It may be restricted, however, in order to avoid its broadcast when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. Between 6 A.M. and 10 P.M. (when there is the greatest likelihood that children may be watching,) airing indecent material is prohibited by FCC rules. Broadcasters are required to schedule their programming accordingly or face enforcement action. Similarly, the Commission has stated that profane material is prohibited between 6 A.M. and 10 P.M.

Finally, the courts have ruled that obscene material is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time. ”


And here is the link to file a complaint:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=33794