ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all idiots. Let your kids decide it on the field. Shut up and let them do their things
. You are the worst of the patents, and you will look back in a few years and realize it. Until then, those of us patents with older kids are mocking you, you are just not smart enough to realize it. Your call, let’s see if you can realize the truth or keep at it like petulant children. My guess is you choose petulant because that is your default. Let’s watch!

I hope your Patents all have Copyrights.

[Anonymous]

My son is September, starter at his team, this season playing MLNS2 because we followed our current club’s decision.

Next year he will do ECNL, no doubt about it.

Both my wife and I are MD PhD, our son wants to follow our career, not to be a professional soccer player.

He likes soccer, he enjoys playing, it’s healthy, and soccer could help for college. So best place for him in coming years will be ECNL. Let’s go for it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is September, starter at his team, this season playing MLNS2 because we followed our current club’s decision.

Next year he will do ECNL, no doubt about it.

Both my wife and I are MD PhD, our son wants to follow our career, not to be a professional soccer player.

He likes soccer, he enjoys playing, it’s healthy, and soccer could help for college. So best place for him in coming years will be ECNL. Let’s go for it!

So, you would have stayed MLSN2 if they stayed BY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is September, starter at his team, this season playing MLNS2 because we followed our current club’s decision.

Next year he will do ECNL, no doubt about it.

Both my wife and I are MD PhD, our son wants to follow our career, not to be a professional soccer player.

He likes soccer, he enjoys playing, it’s healthy, and soccer could help for college. So best place for him in coming years will be ECNL. Let’s go for it!

So, you would have stayed MLSN2 if they stayed BY?

Maybe. At least there is an incentive to stay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

I have an 11 yr old too and this is all so confusing. Mine is on track to play ECNL RL next year unless he can make an ECNL team. That feels increasingly unlikely with the age group change, as he becomes one of the youngest instead of middle of the pack. And now if top players from pre-MLS2 try out for ECNL instead of staying where they are, I don't see how he makes ECNL. I guess he should look at MLS2 as there may be spots opening up there? No delusions about MLS1. Goal is just to make a competitive HS team in a few years. If I had my way I would have him find a different sport. Why is soccer such a mess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

Why is soccer such a mess?

Great question!

Now, US is the only country in the world with 2 different age cutoff systems for youth soccer.

Also, soccer is the only youth sport in US (as far as I know) with 2 different age cutoff systems.

So yes, soccer in US is a mess!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is September, starter at his team, this season playing MLNS2 because we followed our current club’s decision.

Next year he will do ECNL, no doubt about it.

Both my wife and I are MD PhD, our son wants to follow our career, not to be a professional soccer player.

He likes soccer, he enjoys playing, it’s healthy, and soccer could help for college. So best place for him in coming years will be ECNL. Let’s go for it!

So what you're saying is your kid isnt very good and for whatever reason you think moving them from MLS to ECNL will matter. You also seem to think that your who isnt very good will play soccer in college. For someone that likes to flaunt their degrees youre not very smart.

[Anonymous]

The pathway for an MLSN2 player to move up to MLSN1 has now become significantly harder, almost impossible for some. Because MLSN2 functions as a school year (SY) feeder team, so players would have to skip an age group to join a birth-year-based MLSN1 roster. Realistically, very few Aug–Dec players will be able to make that jump.

In other words, the MLSN system now has virtually NO upward pipeline. If you’re an Aug–Dec player, breaking into the MLSN1 team (where the older Jan–July players compete, some nearly a full year older) will be extremely difficult. And when there’s no real pathway from MLSN2 to MLSN1, players WILL leave.

Families invest in these MLSN pay-to-play academies (not DC United Academy) because they hope their child might eventually reach the first team. That possibility has essentially been removed. MLSN academies will be forced to convince their MLSN2 Aug–Dec players to stay instead of moving to ECNL, where they would actually have a chance to reach a national-level first team.

By “first team,” I mean better coaching, field priority (which becomes a major issue in bad weather; MLSN1 will be training indoors while MLSN2 won’t, as has happened before), access to VEO analytics, and more visibility with recruiters. First team is FIRST TEAM. Second team is always at the back of the line, that’s the reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

Why is soccer such a mess?

Great question!

Now, US is the only country in the world with 2 different age cutoff systems for youth soccer.

Also, soccer is the only youth sport in US (as far as I know) with 2 different age cutoff systems.

So yes, soccer in US is a mess!

No US has 2 different soccer pathways.

BY = Pro
SY = Youth HS College

If college soccer didn't exist (which it doesnt in other countries) there wouldn't be a reason to do SY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

Why is soccer such a mess?

Great question!

Now, US is the only country in the world with 2 different age cutoff systems for youth soccer.

Also, soccer is the only youth sport in US (as far as I know) with 2 different age cutoff systems.

So yes, soccer in US is a mess!

Yes it's a mess, but there are a couple sports that have different cutoffs due to different leagues fighting with each other or changing on their own terms (softball recently, but a few other examples)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pathway for an MLSN2 player to move up to MLSN1 has now become significantly harder, almost impossible for some. Because MLSN2 functions as a school year (SY) feeder team, so players would have to skip an age group to join a birth-year-based MLSN1 roster. Realistically, very few Aug–Dec players will be able to make that jump.

In other words, the MLSN system now has virtually NO upward pipeline. If you’re an Aug–Dec player, breaking into the MLSN1 team (where the older Jan–July players compete, some nearly a full year older) will be extremely difficult. And when there’s no real pathway from MLSN2 to MLSN1, players WILL leave.

Families invest in these MLSN pay-to-play academies (not DC United Academy) because they hope their child might eventually reach the first team. That possibility has essentially been removed. MLSN academies will be forced to convince their MLSN2 Aug–Dec players to stay instead of moving to ECNL, where they would actually have a chance to reach a national-level first team.

By “first team,” I mean better coaching, field priority (which becomes a major issue in bad weather; MLSN1 will be training indoors while MLSN2 won’t, as has happened before), access to VEO analytics, and more visibility with recruiters. First team is FIRST TEAM. Second team is always at the back of the line, that’s the reality.

Ummm. Typically if players seem like they can play MLS1 but are small they are biobanded until they hit puberty and catch up with everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

Why is soccer such a mess?

Great question!

Now, US is the only country in the world with 2 different age cutoff systems for youth soccer.

Also, soccer is the only youth sport in US (as far as I know) with 2 different age cutoff systems.

So yes, soccer in US is a mess!

No US has 2 different soccer pathways.

BY = Pro
SY = Youth HS College

If college soccer didn't exist (which it doesnt in other countries) there wouldn't be a reason to do SY.

SY also is allegedly done here to increase participation rates at the younger ages. It is a legit concern at the youngest age groups and lower levels.

[Anonymous]

What mess. So u9-u12 is all SY driven but once they get to u12 it’ll become complicated again if you’re trying for MLSN1. Basically a u11 will need to skip a year in order to play MLSN1. And then as the grow up, the same issues of not being in the same grade as others being recruited will still be there. US soccer is a complete mess

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Q4 kid. 11 yr old. Was starting mls pipeline and looking likely mls2. We will try out at ECNL. Even if 2nd team there, have a chance to make the top team at some point. Either way, would likely be more of an impact on ECNL 2nd team than MLS2. Also, MLS is too disorganized. Club will have a nightmare.

Why is soccer such a mess?

Great question!

Now, US is the only country in the world with 2 different age cutoff systems for youth soccer.

Also, soccer is the only youth sport in US (as far as I know) with 2 different age cutoff systems.

So yes, soccer in US is a mess!

No US has 2 different soccer pathways.

BY = Pro
SY = Youth HS College

If college soccer didn't exist (which it doesnt in other countries) there wouldn't be a reason to do SY.

SY also is allegedly done here to increase participation rates at the younger ages. It is a legit concern at the youngest age groups and lower levels.

Posted too soon, but to your point a lot of places don't have to worry about participation rates because soccer/futbol is king anyways. Not really true here.