FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Seems like they should’ve flipped the island to Crossfield-Carson-Oakton…….then moved the Emerlad Chase neighborhood out of Carson and into their spot at Franklin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should’ve flipped the island to Crossfield-Carson-Oakton…….then moved the Emerlad Chase neighborhood out of Carson and into their spot at Franklin.

They never had a place in Franklin. Aren’t they going Oak Hill/Carson/Westfield to Fox Mill/Carson/South Lakes?

[Anonymous]

I just keep coming back to - what are we solving for? If it’s overcrowding - can we just do a few targeted adjustments and stop wasting time, creating stress on families, and the money on meetings, tech, etc.

[Anonymous]

How are they using feedback from these meetings? At the one tonight, most of the people in the room were talking about WSHS, which was the closest to Robinson because that was the meeting for our pyramid. But the online voting were almost exclusively about Emerald Chase. The Thru consulting guy at the meeting said this was the opportunity to allow the public to provide feedback and the best feedback would rise to the top. But doesn't this now mean that every part of this county which has an issue with these maps will need to figure out how game the system for each of these meetings and have a bunch of people on laptops trying to drive up their concerns to get Thru to pay attention? This seems so messed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just keep coming back to - what are we solving for? If it’s overcrowding - can we just do a few targeted adjustments and stop wasting time, creating stress on families, and the money on meetings, tech, etc.

They could just deal with the two really crowded elementary schools but that wouldn’t be “transformative” enough for Reid.

Of course what they’re proposing now isn’t transformative, either, but we have to let Reid save face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

I have no idea where Emerald Chase is but that community’s ability to game the system to get their responses to dominate the system is next level.

Yes, they are.

Tonight's meeting was for a pyramid on the other side of the county, and the Emerald Crest flooded the system with hundreds of upvotes so their posts dominated the feedback.

They had more upvotes than affected families.

Did they use bots?

One of the elementary schools, I think one of the Greenbrier, tried this on the first round of meetings, and FCPS told them to stop so other pyramids could give feedback. Greenbrier actually listened, and were very respectful of the other schools.

But the South Lakes Emerald neighborhood is just taking over.

It is really, really rude to do this to the other parts of the county that want to make their voices heard.

After seeing how they took over the meeting tonight at Robinson through some sort of bot or out of state families and friends giving feedback from a facebook request, I almost hope that Emerald neighborhood gets rezoned to where they don't want to go.

They were rude and selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are they using feedback from these meetings? At the one tonight, most of the people in the room were talking about WSHS, which was the closest to Robinson because that was the meeting for our pyramid. But the online voting were almost exclusively about Emerald Chase. The Thru consulting guy at the meeting said this was the opportunity to allow the public to provide feedback and the best feedback would rise to the top. But doesn't this now mean that every part of this county which has an issue with these maps will need to figure out how game the system for each of these meetings and have a bunch of people on laptops trying to drive up their concerns to get Thru to pay attention? This seems so messed up.

It worked for Langley and the FairFACTS families. Don't hate on Emerald Chase cause you can't play the game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

I have no idea where Emerald Chase is but that community’s ability to game the system to get their responses to dominate the system is next level.

Yes, they are.

Tonight's meeting was for a pyramid on the other side of the county, and the Emerald Crest flooded the system with hundreds of upvotes so their posts dominated the feedback.

They had more upvotes than affected families.

Did they use bots?

One of the elementary schools, I think one of the Greenbrier, tried this on the first round of meetings, and FCPS told them to stop so other pyramids could give feedback. Greenbrier actually listened, and were very respectful of the other schools.

But the South Lakes Emerald neighborhood is just taking over.

It is really, really rude to do this to the other parts of the county that want to make their voices heard.

After seeing how they took over the meeting tonight at Robinson through some sort of bot or out of state families and friends giving feedback from a facebook request, I almost hope that Emerald neighborhood gets rezoned to where they don't want to go.

They were rude and selfish.

Is that the area that would get moved from Westfield to South Lakes or somewhere else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are they using feedback from these meetings? At the one tonight, most of the people in the room were talking about WSHS, which was the closest to Robinson because that was the meeting for our pyramid. But the online voting were almost exclusively about Emerald Chase. The Thru consulting guy at the meeting said this was the opportunity to allow the public to provide feedback and the best feedback would rise to the top. But doesn't this now mean that every part of this county which has an issue with these maps will need to figure out how game the system for each of these meetings and have a bunch of people on laptops trying to drive up their concerns to get Thru to pay attention? This seems so messed up.

It worked for Langley and the FairFACTS families. Don't hate on Emerald Chase cause you can't play the game.

You guys were rude, ignorant and selfish.

And you took away the voice of people in that pyramid.

The Langley and Fairfacts did not do what you did to take away the voice of other schools in the district. In fact, the Fairfacts and Langley folks were generous and helpful to other neighborhoods across the county to help them organize to get their voices heard.

The Emerald Crest families were behaving like selfish jerks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

Waples is in a several-years process of phasing in local level IV. Starting next year, Waples will have local level IV at third and fourth grade.

That being said, it will be a “cluster model” at Waples. Time will tell whether those students who chose to stay at Waples will get the same level of services as those that chose the center.

Did not know this. It's too late for my family, my AAP kid is at Carson now. It would have been much nicer not to lose contact with 70% of his Waples friends in the move to Hunters Woods. Looks like the CIP is banking on Waples enrollment dropping by 65 kids phased in over the next 5 years. That must by why they now have room for local AAP. Then Waples is scheduled for a renovation/expansion starting in 2030 at the attendance low - go figure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are they using feedback from these meetings? At the one tonight, most of the people in the room were talking about WSHS, which was the closest to Robinson because that was the meeting for our pyramid. But the online voting were almost exclusively about Emerald Chase. The Thru consulting guy at the meeting said this was the opportunity to allow the public to provide feedback and the best feedback would rise to the top. But doesn't this now mean that every part of this county which has an issue with these maps will need to figure out how game the system for each of these meetings and have a bunch of people on laptops trying to drive up their concerns to get Thru to pay attention? This seems so messed up.

It worked for Langley and the FairFACTS families. Don't hate on Emerald Chase cause you can't play the game.

You guys were rude, ignorant and selfish.

And you took away the voice of people in that pyramid.

The Langley and Fairfacts did not do what you did to take away the voice of other schools in the district. In fact, the Fairfacts and Langley folks were generous and helpful to other neighborhoods across the county to help them organize to get their voices heard.

The Emerald Crest families were behaving like selfish jerks.

It's EMERALD CHASE, sad West Springfield lady. Sorry you don't understand how to organize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should’ve flipped the island to Crossfield-Carson-Oakton…….then moved the Emerlad Chase neighborhood out of Carson and into their spot at Franklin.

They never had a place in Franklin. Aren’t they going Oak Hill/Carson/Westfield to Fox Mill/Carson/South Lakes?

I think PP meant Emerald Chase could replace the Navy Island place at Franklin and send the Navy Island to Carson.

Emerald Chase is currently Oak Hill/Carson/Westfield. The options (not sure which options) have them at Fox Mill/Carson/South Lakes.

A few years ago, they were switched from Floris/Carson/Westfield to Oak Hill.

Emerald Chase is in a small pocket that also includes some of Bradley Farm. (I always thought the whole pocket was Emerald Chase, but just learned differently.) It is located along West Ox between 286 and McLearen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

I have no idea where Emerald Chase is but that community’s ability to game the system to get their responses to dominate the system is next level.

Yes, they are.

Tonight's meeting was for a pyramid on the other side of the county, and the Emerald Crest flooded the system with hundreds of upvotes so their posts dominated the feedback.

They had more upvotes than affected families.

Did they use bots?

One of the elementary schools, I think one of the Greenbrier, tried this on the first round of meetings, and FCPS told them to stop so other pyramids could give feedback. Greenbrier actually listened, and were very respectful of the other schools.

But the South Lakes Emerald neighborhood is just taking over.

It is really, really rude to do this to the other parts of the county that want to make their voices heard.

After seeing how they took over the meeting tonight at Robinson through some sort of bot or out of state families and friends giving feedback from a facebook request, I almost hope that Emerald neighborhood gets rezoned to where they don't want to go.

They were rude and selfish.

Is that the area that would get moved from Westfield to South Lakes or somewhere else?

They were from somewhere in Reston according to their posts with hundreds of upvotes.

The meeting tonight was for the Region 4 schools.

Hunt Valley is the largest group getting rezoned, but there are several tiny neighborhoods where FCPS is trading a few streets from Silverbrook with a few streets from Sangster, a truly stupid rezoning if you know the area and the traffic patterns. It is literally 5 to 10 kids per grade in those 2 neighborhoods. Those voice and their valuable feedback were completely drowned out, because they did not have enough numbers to be seen in the 300-400+ online upvotes from.the Emerald Chase families from Reston. They even drowned out the WSHS/Hunt Valley families, who were quite numerous in attendance, because they took over online voting and completely prevented the aregion 4 families from having their feedback heard.

It was so, so selfish and rude.

They should be embarrassed by how they treated everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are they using feedback from these meetings? At the one tonight, most of the people in the room were talking about WSHS, which was the closest to Robinson because that was the meeting for our pyramid. But the online voting were almost exclusively about Emerald Chase. The Thru consulting guy at the meeting said this was the opportunity to allow the public to provide feedback and the best feedback would rise to the top. But doesn't this now mean that every part of this county which has an issue with these maps will need to figure out how game the system for each of these meetings and have a bunch of people on laptops trying to drive up their concerns to get Thru to pay attention? This seems so messed up.

It worked for Langley and the FairFACTS families. Don't hate on Emerald Chase cause you can't play the game.

You guys were rude, ignorant and selfish.

And you took away the voice of people in that pyramid.

The Langley and Fairfacts did not do what you did to take away the voice of other schools in the district. In fact, the Fairfacts and Langley folks were generous and helpful to other neighborhoods across the county to help them organize to get their voices heard.

The Emerald Crest families were behaving like selfish jerks.

It's EMERALD CHASE, sad West Springfield lady. Sorry you don't understand how to organize.

How would you feel if all of the rest of the area decides to organize to flood the rest of the meetings with posts saying that rezoning Emerald Chase to Westfield is the best rezoning choice FCPS could make?

[Anonymous]

Sounds kind of like what Mantua folks were doing in the earlier meetings.