FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:They are moving some of Shrevewood that currently goes to Kilmer to Longfellow (creating a change) and taking out neighborhood that timber lane to Longfellow. Unclear what problem they are solving by changing more kids schools and friends. And creating a small Shrevewood split feeder.

We’re in that area and Longfellow is closer to us than Kilmer so we’d be fine with that change.

Marshall is closer than McLean but Shreve just turns into Haycock on the other side of Route 7 and it’s fairly easy to get to McLean on Shreve/Haycock and then Westmoreland.

Do you have kids in Shrevewood? It's a tight knit community that has already been torn apart with a LLIV/AAP change. Not sure it can handle this change on top of that.

It would be sad if Shrevewood no longer served the very neighborhood that used to support it.

They haven’t proposed to move anyone out of Shrevewood.

The discussion got derailed a bit, but the conversation is about the Falls Hill neighborhood (or most of it) being assigned to Longfellow/McLean. So Shrevewood goes to a split feeder.

Shrevewood also gains some from Timber Lane, popping them back over 100% utilization. At least until Dunn Loring is ready.

I’d responded to a post that suggested kids would be moved out of Shrevewood. None of Thru’s proposals call for that, only for adding some kids now at Timber Lane to Shrevewood.

Agree like the new Shrevewood split looks uneven, but they could address that by moving the part of Lemon Road right next to Marshall to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill and keeping them at GCM. Both have capacity. Then they could move more of Shrevewood off Idylwood Road to McLean so it’s a more even split.

I don’t think any group of any size at McLean or Marshall were pushing for changes so no problem w/me if they forget about ANY of these proposed changes. But if they start going down the path of addressing the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation (the school is outside its attendance area), the overcrowding at Kilmer, etc., they can make some tweaks that would make Shrevewood a more even split.

I’m surprised Marshall parents aren’t raising more concerns about the kids who’d move to Madison under the latest proposals, but it seems the biggest complaint is from some Shrevewood parents who don’t want more FARMS kids off Route 29. But if that’s the case you have to give FCPS an alternative as Timber Lane can’t keep all those kids with the additional kids it would be picking up south of Route 29 as part of the Graham Road-driven changes.

No the Shrevewood parents are pissed that it's now slated to become a split feeder - it's been a 100% feeder to Marshall for at least the past decade my kids attended. And that the way it's becoming a split feeder is to rip a neighborhood in half that attends (and can walk to) Shrevewood. And there are even crazier proposals related to Marshall - like moving the TH community adjacent to Marshall to McLean! If they were going to tackle Kilmer/Marshall overcrowding, why not look to the portion that is out past Wolf Trap rather than houses literally next door to Marshall!

If you look at Marshall currently, there are 7 split feeders feeding into Marshall: Cunningham Park, Lemon Road, Vienna, Westbriar, Westgate, Wolftrap, and Kilmer.

The latest Thru proposals try to reduce that number to 4: Cunningham Park, Shrevewood, Westbriar, and Wolftrap. I say "try" because they still have a split feeder at Westgate even though they purported to eliminate it. Even so, reducing 7 split feeders to 4-5 is progress if you think split feeders are bad.

They shouldn't move the TH community adjacent to Marshall that's zoned to Lemon Road to McLean, but they can reassign it to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill so all of Lemon Road goes to McLean and then move more of Shrevewood to McLean.

Or they can do something else, or do nothing. If they moved the area near Wolf Trap out of Kilmer/Marshall, it would likely go to Thoreau/Madison. If they did this and made the other changes they've proposed, they'd be leaving Longfellow well under capacity and would need to find another area to move there. As I said before, they are trying to deal with several things, including the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation, the Kilmer overcrowding, and the additional capacity now available at Falls Church and Madison at the same time.

Shrevewood is NOT a split feeder now and they proposing turning it into a split feeder. Nobody wants half of our neighborhood to go to Marshall and the other half to go to McLean. It's incredibly stupid and unfair to the kids who have grown up together most of them have known each other since birth, see each other every day at the pool, etc, now you're tearing them apart for some of their most formative years in high school? It's horrible. #TeamMarshall

I understand that. But it would become a split feeder as part of a set of related changes that would reduce the number of Marshall feeders that are split feeders. So it's a net gain from that perspective.

You have your views, and I respect them, but I've already seen at least poster say they'd welcome the reassignment. Some may prefer AP at McLean. It looks like Kilmer needs relief and reducing the base enrollment at Marshall would mean that a bunch of motivated kids from the surrounding AP schools (Langley, McLean, Madison, and Falls Church) who want IB could attend Marshall, which used to get a lot of transfers for IB but has largely been closed to pupil placements in recent years.

That was me. It’s fine with us if we move to Longfellow and McLean or stay at Kilmer and Marshall. Kid is just in elementary now but I’m sure friends at other split feeders like Lemon Road can stay friends.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

Crossfield already has AAP LLIV classes in every grade 3-6. I don't think very many kids go to Navy every year.

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Anonymous wrote:They are moving some of Shrevewood that currently goes to Kilmer to Longfellow (creating a change) and taking out neighborhood that timber lane to Longfellow. Unclear what problem they are solving by changing more kids schools and friends. And creating a small Shrevewood split feeder.

We’re in that area and Longfellow is closer to us than Kilmer so we’d be fine with that change.

Marshall is closer than McLean but Shreve just turns into Haycock on the other side of Route 7 and it’s fairly easy to get to McLean on Shreve/Haycock and then Westmoreland.

Do you have kids in Shrevewood? It's a tight knit community that has already been torn apart with a LLIV/AAP change. Not sure it can handle this change on top of that.

It would be sad if Shrevewood no longer served the very neighborhood that used to support it.

They haven’t proposed to move anyone out of Shrevewood.

The discussion got derailed a bit, but the conversation is about the Falls Hill neighborhood (or most of it) being assigned to Longfellow/McLean. So Shrevewood goes to a split feeder.

Shrevewood also gains some from Timber Lane, popping them back over 100% utilization. At least until Dunn Loring is ready.

I’d responded to a post that suggested kids would be moved out of Shrevewood. None of Thru’s proposals call for that, only for adding some kids now at Timber Lane to Shrevewood.

Agree like the new Shrevewood split looks uneven, but they could address that by moving the part of Lemon Road right next to Marshall to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill and keeping them at GCM. Both have capacity. Then they could move more of Shrevewood off Idylwood Road to McLean so it’s a more even split.

I don’t think any group of any size at McLean or Marshall were pushing for changes so no problem w/me if they forget about ANY of these proposed changes. But if they start going down the path of addressing the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation (the school is outside its attendance area), the overcrowding at Kilmer, etc., they can make some tweaks that would make Shrevewood a more even split.

I’m surprised Marshall parents aren’t raising more concerns about the kids who’d move to Madison under the latest proposals, but it seems the biggest complaint is from some Shrevewood parents who don’t want more FARMS kids off Route 29. But if that’s the case you have to give FCPS an alternative as Timber Lane can’t keep all those kids with the additional kids it would be picking up south of Route 29 as part of the Graham Road-driven changes.

No the Shrevewood parents are pissed that it's now slated to become a split feeder - it's been a 100% feeder to Marshall for at least the past decade my kids attended. And that the way it's becoming a split feeder is to rip a neighborhood in half that attends (and can walk to) Shrevewood. And there are even crazier proposals related to Marshall - like moving the TH community adjacent to Marshall to McLean! If they were going to tackle Kilmer/Marshall overcrowding, why not look to the portion that is out past Wolf Trap rather than houses literally next door to Marshall!

If you look at Marshall currently, there are 7 split feeders feeding into Marshall: Cunningham Park, Lemon Road, Vienna, Westbriar, Westgate, Wolftrap, and Kilmer.

The latest Thru proposals try to reduce that number to 4: Cunningham Park, Shrevewood, Westbriar, and Wolftrap. I say "try" because they still have a split feeder at Westgate even though they purported to eliminate it. Even so, reducing 7 split feeders to 4-5 is progress if you think split feeders are bad.

They shouldn't move the TH community adjacent to Marshall that's zoned to Lemon Road to McLean, but they can reassign it to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill so all of Lemon Road goes to McLean and then move more of Shrevewood to McLean.

Or they can do something else, or do nothing. If they moved the area near Wolf Trap out of Kilmer/Marshall, it would likely go to Thoreau/Madison. If they did this and made the other changes they've proposed, they'd be leaving Longfellow well under capacity and would need to find another area to move there. As I said before, they are trying to deal with several things, including the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation, the Kilmer overcrowding, and the additional capacity now available at Falls Church and Madison at the same time.

But if you leave Shrevewood alone, then you could have only 3 since currently all of Shrevewood goes to Marshall. How does it make sense to move any of the students south of Route 7 to McLean? Why not move the houses north of 7, in Pimmit Hills, to McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:They are moving some of Shrevewood that currently goes to Kilmer to Longfellow (creating a change) and taking out neighborhood that timber lane to Longfellow. Unclear what problem they are solving by changing more kids schools and friends. And creating a small Shrevewood split feeder.

We’re in that area and Longfellow is closer to us than Kilmer so we’d be fine with that change.

Marshall is closer than McLean but Shreve just turns into Haycock on the other side of Route 7 and it’s fairly easy to get to McLean on Shreve/Haycock and then Westmoreland.

Do you have kids in Shrevewood? It's a tight knit community that has already been torn apart with a LLIV/AAP change. Not sure it can handle this change on top of that.

It would be sad if Shrevewood no longer served the very neighborhood that used to support it.

They haven’t proposed to move anyone out of Shrevewood.

The discussion got derailed a bit, but the conversation is about the Falls Hill neighborhood (or most of it) being assigned to Longfellow/McLean. So Shrevewood goes to a split feeder.

Shrevewood also gains some from Timber Lane, popping them back over 100% utilization. At least until Dunn Loring is ready.

I’d responded to a post that suggested kids would be moved out of Shrevewood. None of Thru’s proposals call for that, only for adding some kids now at Timber Lane to Shrevewood.

Agree like the new Shrevewood split looks uneven, but they could address that by moving the part of Lemon Road right next to Marshall to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill and keeping them at GCM. Both have capacity. Then they could move more of Shrevewood off Idylwood Road to McLean so it’s a more even split.

I don’t think any group of any size at McLean or Marshall were pushing for changes so no problem w/me if they forget about ANY of these proposed changes. But if they start going down the path of addressing the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation (the school is outside its attendance area), the overcrowding at Kilmer, etc., they can make some tweaks that would make Shrevewood a more even split.

I’m surprised Marshall parents aren’t raising more concerns about the kids who’d move to Madison under the latest proposals, but it seems the biggest complaint is from some Shrevewood parents who don’t want more FARMS kids off Route 29. But if that’s the case you have to give FCPS an alternative as Timber Lane can’t keep all those kids with the additional kids it would be picking up south of Route 29 as part of the Graham Road-driven changes.

No the Shrevewood parents are pissed that it's now slated to become a split feeder - it's been a 100% feeder to Marshall for at least the past decade my kids attended. And that the way it's becoming a split feeder is to rip a neighborhood in half that attends (and can walk to) Shrevewood. And there are even crazier proposals related to Marshall - like moving the TH community adjacent to Marshall to McLean! If they were going to tackle Kilmer/Marshall overcrowding, why not look to the portion that is out past Wolf Trap rather than houses literally next door to Marshall!

If you look at Marshall currently, there are 7 split feeders feeding into Marshall: Cunningham Park, Lemon Road, Vienna, Westbriar, Westgate, Wolftrap, and Kilmer.

The latest Thru proposals try to reduce that number to 4: Cunningham Park, Shrevewood, Westbriar, and Wolftrap. I say "try" because they still have a split feeder at Westgate even though they purported to eliminate it. Even so, reducing 7 split feeders to 4-5 is progress if you think split feeders are bad.

They shouldn't move the TH community adjacent to Marshall that's zoned to Lemon Road to McLean, but they can reassign it to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill so all of Lemon Road goes to McLean and then move more of Shrevewood to McLean.

Or they can do something else, or do nothing. If they moved the area near Wolf Trap out of Kilmer/Marshall, it would likely go to Thoreau/Madison. If they did this and made the other changes they've proposed, they'd be leaving Longfellow well under capacity and would need to find another area to move there. As I said before, they are trying to deal with several things, including the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation, the Kilmer overcrowding, and the additional capacity now available at Falls Church and Madison at the same time.

But if you leave Shrevewood alone, then you could have only 3 since currently all of Shrevewood goes to Marshall. How does it make sense to move any of the students south of Route 7 to McLean? Why not move the houses north of 7, in Pimmit Hills, to McLean.

Because then you would be ADDING walkers to McLean. Thru only knows how to REMOVE walkers and send them on busses.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

I really don't understand why they are sending the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill instead of Crossfield with the rest of Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway. It makes no sense at all.

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All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

I really don't understand why they are sending the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill instead of Crossfield with the rest of Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway. It makes no sense at all.

It’s because Oak Hill has an AAP center like Navy has an AAP center. It’s more equitable.

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Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

The scenarios presented and talked about make no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

I really don't understand why they are sending the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill instead of Crossfield with the rest of Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway. It makes no sense at all.

It’s because Oak Hill has an AAP center like Navy has an AAP center. It’s more equitable.

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Anonymous wrote:All the feedback on pigeonhole from community meeting tonight is basically: don’t move my kids.

I have no idea where Emerald Chase is but that community’s ability to game the system to get their responses to dominate the system is next level.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

I really don't understand why they are sending the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill instead of Crossfield with the rest of Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway. It makes no sense at all.

It’s because Oak Hill has an AAP center like Navy has an AAP center. It’s more equitable.

Then, if we want equity in programming, shouldn't all schools have an AAP center?

That "Navy Island" is smack in the middle of Franklin Farm that attends Crossfield. Crossfield has room. It makes no sense at all. Look at the map.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

Waples is in a several-years process of phasing in local level IV. Starting next year, Waples will have local level IV at third and fourth grade.

That being said, it will be a “cluster model” at Waples. Time will tell whether those students who chose to stay at Waples will get the same level of services as those that chose the center.

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Anonymous wrote:New topic: I was just playing around in the tool and noticed that Scenarios 2 and 3 shift the kids who live in Fox Mill Woods (currently zoned to Crossfield - Hughes - South Lakes) back to Carson and Oakton, thus removing Crossfield as a split feeder. That was not in any of the slides that were presented. I know that a lot of people have posted on this board about how that neighborhood had a lot of drama when they were originally shifted from Oakton to South Lakes, and this change does make a lot of sense. I know that a lot of Crossfield families were very worried, so this is a relief. We want to stay in an AP school.

Crossfield just finished a renovation and is projected at 83% capacity on the map tool. They really should staff it as an AAP Level 4 now so that their kids don't have to go to Navy for AAP, and then the Waples kids could go there or to Navy for AAP instead of going out of pyramid all the way to Hunters Woods. Wish Waples could have their own AAP but they don't have the room.
I know the school board never mentioned AAP or IB/AP as part of this review - probably to avoid answering all the people who don't want to move and would prefer to end pupil placements. They really should. There are many "split feeders" not addressed because of where kids have to go for AAP.

I really don't understand why they are sending the Navy island in Franklin Farm to Oak Hill instead of Crossfield with the rest of Franklin Farm on that side of the parkway. It makes no sense at all.

It’s because Oak Hill has an AAP center like Navy has an AAP center. It’s more equitable.

Then, if we want equity in programming, shouldn't all schools have an AAP center?

That "Navy Island" is smack in the middle of Franklin Farm that attends Crossfield. Crossfield has room. It makes no sense at all. Look at the map.

It’s because they drew the lines based on existing middle school boundaries. The Navy island went to Franklin, while Crossfield went to Carson, so they stuck the island with Oak Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:They are moving some of Shrevewood that currently goes to Kilmer to Longfellow (creating a change) and taking out neighborhood that timber lane to Longfellow. Unclear what problem they are solving by changing more kids schools and friends. And creating a small Shrevewood split feeder.

We’re in that area and Longfellow is closer to us than Kilmer so we’d be fine with that change.

Marshall is closer than McLean but Shreve just turns into Haycock on the other side of Route 7 and it’s fairly easy to get to McLean on Shreve/Haycock and then Westmoreland.

Do you have kids in Shrevewood? It's a tight knit community that has already been torn apart with a LLIV/AAP change. Not sure it can handle this change on top of that.

It would be sad if Shrevewood no longer served the very neighborhood that used to support it.

They haven’t proposed to move anyone out of Shrevewood.

The discussion got derailed a bit, but the conversation is about the Falls Hill neighborhood (or most of it) being assigned to Longfellow/McLean. So Shrevewood goes to a split feeder.

Shrevewood also gains some from Timber Lane, popping them back over 100% utilization. At least until Dunn Loring is ready.

I’d responded to a post that suggested kids would be moved out of Shrevewood. None of Thru’s proposals call for that, only for adding some kids now at Timber Lane to Shrevewood.

Agree like the new Shrevewood split looks uneven, but they could address that by moving the part of Lemon Road right next to Marshall to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill and keeping them at GCM. Both have capacity. Then they could move more of Shrevewood off Idylwood Road to McLean so it’s a more even split.

I don’t think any group of any size at McLean or Marshall were pushing for changes so no problem w/me if they forget about ANY of these proposed changes. But if they start going down the path of addressing the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation (the school is outside its attendance area), the overcrowding at Kilmer, etc., they can make some tweaks that would make Shrevewood a more even split.

I’m surprised Marshall parents aren’t raising more concerns about the kids who’d move to Madison under the latest proposals, but it seems the biggest complaint is from some Shrevewood parents who don’t want more FARMS kids off Route 29. But if that’s the case you have to give FCPS an alternative as Timber Lane can’t keep all those kids with the additional kids it would be picking up south of Route 29 as part of the Graham Road-driven changes.

No the Shrevewood parents are pissed that it's now slated to become a split feeder - it's been a 100% feeder to Marshall for at least the past decade my kids attended. And that the way it's becoming a split feeder is to rip a neighborhood in half that attends (and can walk to) Shrevewood. And there are even crazier proposals related to Marshall - like moving the TH community adjacent to Marshall to McLean! If they were going to tackle Kilmer/Marshall overcrowding, why not look to the portion that is out past Wolf Trap rather than houses literally next door to Marshall!

If you look at Marshall currently, there are 7 split feeders feeding into Marshall: Cunningham Park, Lemon Road, Vienna, Westbriar, Westgate, Wolftrap, and Kilmer.

The latest Thru proposals try to reduce that number to 4: Cunningham Park, Shrevewood, Westbriar, and Wolftrap. I say "try" because they still have a split feeder at Westgate even though they purported to eliminate it. Even so, reducing 7 split feeders to 4-5 is progress if you think split feeders are bad.

They shouldn't move the TH community adjacent to Marshall that's zoned to Lemon Road to McLean, but they can reassign it to another Marshall feeder like Westgate or Freedom Hill so all of Lemon Road goes to McLean and then move more of Shrevewood to McLean.

Or they can do something else, or do nothing. If they moved the area near Wolf Trap out of Kilmer/Marshall, it would likely go to Thoreau/Madison. If they did this and made the other changes they've proposed, they'd be leaving Longfellow well under capacity and would need to find another area to move there. As I said before, they are trying to deal with several things, including the Timber Lane island, the Graham Road situation, the Kilmer overcrowding, and the additional capacity now available at Falls Church and Madison at the same time.

But if you leave Shrevewood alone, then you could have only 3 since currently all of Shrevewood goes to Marshall. How does it make sense to move any of the students south of Route 7 to McLean? Why not move the houses north of 7, in Pimmit Hills, to McLean.

This is where it would be really helpful if the interactive tool showed the SPAs and the number of kids in each SPAs. APS had such a tool when it changed high school boundaries a few years ago. The tool FCPS is making available is more primitive.

McLean has had kids on that side of Route 7 for years - just at Timber Lane rather than Shrevewood. But if we had a better tool we could see what the numbers would look like if more of Pimmit Hills (in addition to the Lemon Road area) were moved rather than part of Shrevewood.

Marshall wouldn’t have 3 split feeders in that scenario. It might have 4, with one of them being Westgate rather than Shrevewood.