All schools should offer an all-virtual option

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep visualizing 2 or 3 kids wearing glasses making cogent arguments, one of them makes a little speech, the others put a reasonable word in.

And 2 or 3 kids stand around them leaning in to poke at them, making faces, calling the speckled ones names over and over again, with sing-song sneery mocking voices like this:

These people don't care. / They are perfectly happy ruining education for other children if this gets them the slightest advantage.
you shriveled walnut.  / This namby-pamby  / 
Just stop ignoring / You're pretending / If you're really concerned ..... shouldn't even be a priority for you.
But keep ignoring teachers.
This is getting pathetic. / It's gross that you are reaching for the equity argument.
You keep changing your argument but whatever. 
You are really showing your colors with these claims.
This is reaching a height of cluelessness and disingenuousness that I have rarely witnessed, even on DCUM.
Go homeschool.
It's getting really gross.

You have a completely distorted view of reality. Sounds like some sort of narcissistic personality disorder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait to see what happens next.

I'm guessing some other alarming statements. That or the repeated nonsense that parents are keeping them from virtual options that exist.

It'll definitely be a non-sequitur, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Public schools provide in person education. If you want your kids at home, there are lots of options. Homeschool with an online program. Then you get an individualized education and you get to keep your kids home.

Don’t throw the rest of us under the bus. I have to work and my kids have to go to school. Last year was a disaster for us.

Having a virtual option does not hurt you. In fact, it keeps you safer by getting kids out of the classroom.

DP. Please go back and read the thread. There is plenty of explanation of how it does hurt everyone if every school has to provide a virtual option.

There’s plenty of histrionics but no actual explanation. The bottom line is people are afraid to acknowledge the new threat that Delta poses or the responsible ways we should respond because they’re tired of the pandemic and they got a taste of freedom in June. The game has changed and this is a modest request in response to this new reality.

Thank you. It feels great to hear someone else say this.

One of the reactive 'feel free to go away" comments became more sophisticated from being repeated ad nauseam. Eventually, the anti-virtual poster(s) stated that those concerned parents asking for a temporary virtual option until vaccines, will never actually feel safe enough to send kids back ("goal posts' etc), and will keep asking for virtual for the next 2-3 years, so those kids might as well go to a centralized virtual option and stay there. Well, for one, that's not true. But also, that would be quite problematic.

It would be terrible for the kids and it would be terrible for the neighborhood schools.

A temporary flexible virtual option with a link to a physical school increases the chances that students will not retreat forever from in-person school. It would be terrible policy to drive the healthy students of cautious families to a permanent centralized virtual school, because it runs the risk that some or many won't seek to go back to a physical school (particularly, as some sneered, if they lose the relationship with their lotteried slots), even when vaccinated and even when it's safe. Unless, that is, DCPS wanted to rush towards the 'learning of the future' and shed some kids from its physical buildings in the medium term, which I doubt.

Losing local students to a centralized virtual school would hurt the neighborhood schools' enrollment, and destabilize them in a deeper way than allowing some kids to be full-virtual, knowing that it's more than likely that the schools would have to set up and pivot some classes to virtual on and off anyway for a few weeks at a time.

So as you said, a lot of this disagreement is from some cautious parents believing, and the anti-virtual denying, that there will be inevitable back and forth to virtual anyway until kids are fully vaccinated.

This is disingenuous Bc you aren’t at your neighborhood school. If you were you could just homeschool.

This. You could homeschool or go to a virtual school as long as you want then send your kid back to your neighborhood school when you "feel" ready. The only people who would lose their spots are those who lotteried in, which means they don't go to neighborhood schools.

Just stop ignoring evidence that it's too much of a strain for a single school to offer both virtual and in-person at the same time. You're pretending that your plan wouldn't hurt in-person learners when it's clear that it would by draining resources to run a separate school program for each grade. Plus it would hurt kids because virtual learning wasn't as effective for most students.

If you're really concerned about dire public health risks due to in-person school, then "school spirit" shouldn't even be a priority for you.

So the only people who should have a choice to protect their children as they see fit are parents who have a good neighborhood school option: Wards 2, 3 and 6. Everyone else should have to lose their charter or OOB spot. Seems equitable.

THIS is your version of equity? And what about the equity of children’s experiences at each school, if it was to be forced to run two completely separate school programs? We know that schools can’t do this well. Go take one of the virtual options that exist and give up your lottery slot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep visualizing 2 or 3 kids wearing glasses making cogent arguments, one of them makes a little speech, the others put a reasonable word in.

And 2 or 3 kids stand around them leaning in to poke at them, making faces, calling the speckled ones names over and over again, with sing-song sneery mocking voices like this:

These people don't care. / They are perfectly happy ruining education for other children if this gets them the slightest advantage.
you shriveled walnut.  / This namby-pamby  / 
Just stop ignoring / You're pretending / If you're really concerned ..... shouldn't even be a priority for you.
But keep ignoring teachers.
This is getting pathetic. / It's gross that you are reaching for the equity argument.
You keep changing your argument but whatever. 
You are really showing your colors with these claims.
This is reaching a height of cluelessness and disingenuousness that I have rarely witnessed, even on DCUM.
Go homeschool.
It's getting really gross.

Speaking of cogent arguments: this isn’t one. It’s an appeal to pathos.

[Anonymous]

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So the only people who should have a choice to protect their children as they see fit are parents who have a good neighborhood school option: Wards 2, 3 and 6. Everyone else should have to lose their charter or OOB spot. Seems equitable.

Truly this is oppression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep visualizing 2 or 3 kids wearing glasses making cogent arguments, one of them makes a little speech, the others put a reasonable word in.

And 2 or 3 kids stand around them leaning in to poke at them, making faces, calling the speckled ones names over and over again, with sing-song sneery mocking voices like this:

These people don't care. / They are perfectly happy ruining education for other children if this gets them the slightest advantage.
you shriveled walnut.  / This namby-pamby  / 
Just stop ignoring / You're pretending / If you're really concerned ..... shouldn't even be a priority for you.
But keep ignoring teachers.
This is getting pathetic. / It's gross that you are reaching for the equity argument.
You keep changing your argument but whatever. 
You are really showing your colors with these claims.
This is reaching a height of cluelessness and disingenuousness that I have rarely witnessed, even on DCUM.
Go homeschool.
It's getting really gross.

Speaking of cogent arguments: this isn’t one. It’s an appeal to pathos.

i might have gone with bathos, even.

[Anonymous]

Late to the party here, but what is wrong with going to Friendship? I don't have time to read 40 pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Late to the party here, but what is wrong with going to Friendship? I don't have time to read 40 pages.

They don't want to lose their lottery spot.

[Anonymous]

Seems like a small concession if they’re worried about the Health and safety of their child

[Anonymous]

At the risk of reviving a painfully unproductive thread, over 1,200 NYC parents have signed a Change.org petition to maintain a virtual option.

"Remote learning: keep it open as an option!"

https://www.change.org/p/mayor-bill-de-blasio-support-students-educators-school-staff-and-parents-fighting-for-a-remote-option

[Anonymous]

I feel like DC would laugh at this petition, because THERE ARE ALREADY VIRTUAL OPTIONS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like DC would laugh at this petition, because THERE ARE ALREADY VIRTUAL OPTIONS.

+1

[Anonymous]

I note also that this petition calls for a "centralized remote option" for students at any school, which hey! That's exactly what we have in Friendship!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I note also that this petition calls for a "centralized remote option" for students at any school, which hey! That's exactly what we have in Friendship!

Friendship is fully enrolled, so we don’t actually have that option.

Ps - How many doctors have to sound the alarm on this before we start taking it seriously. Here’s another one:

“We are seeing those increasing cases in children, and I will say what I am seeing from my pediatrician colleagues particularly in areas where infection rates are high is they are seeing very sick kids.”

https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/aap-president-pediatricians-are-concerned-about-children-and-covid-118063685864

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I note also that this petition calls for a "centralized remote option" for students at any school, which hey! That's exactly what we have in Friendship!

Friendship is fully enrolled, so we don’t actually have that option.

Ps - How many doctors have to sound the alarm on this before we start taking it seriously. Here’s another one:

“We are seeing those increasing cases in children, and I will say what I am seeing from my pediatrician colleagues particularly in areas where infection rates are high is they are seeing very sick kids.”

https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/aap-president-pediatricians-are-concerned-about-children-and-covid-118063685864

you can try out KIPP or homeschool.