Mary Cheh has turned Cleveland Park/Cleveland Park North into her personal political asset

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Anonymous wrote:Hydrology, erosion etc are all here

https://dgs.dc.gov/page/hearst-park-and-pool-improvement-project

It doesn’t say anything about pumping water in perpetuity. And what happens when the pumps fail. And pretty indicative illustrations are not a reforestation or tee canopy restoration plan.

You are reaching now.

She needs to reach for her meds - I'm sure the post blaming this all on Trump is coming any moment now.

Oh - Did GGW, Ward (3) Vision and “CCCP Smart Growth” also push the Hearst Park pool as “vibrant urbanism”?

I'm actually somewhat surprised GGW hasn't written 15 blog posts opposing the use of parkland for recreational purposes when a sterile 80-unit luxury condo building could have been erected there. Such a waste of space to give the public something that everyone can enjoy when that space could have become 80 one-bedroom condos.

GGW has essentially written this very thing about Northwest DC’s two land trust conservancies - transit-accessible, would have been better for Smart Growth, yada yada yawn.

I'm so very tired of them..I watched when Columbia Heights metro came in and we were all so excited about some transformation of offerings. Instead, it looks and feels worse than before. Not because development is bad, but because rushed, souless development that doesn't take the neighborhood into account is..it also is very hard /impossible to undo the cement pour.

That all happened pre "smart growth" - no way DCUSA happens today.

What they’re building right next to Fannie Mae is ugly and overwhelming. “Smart Growth”?

Yeah, I'm over it. Especially since the smart growth people don't seem to 'count' any of this development when they make their arguments for further development. Is there an organization that is the opposite of smart growth and how does one join?

People across DC neighborhoods need to come together and form one. There are organizations that have tried to take on the DC Smart Growth Inc machine, like community associations, historic preservation groups, and the Committee of 100, but then but they become targets of the attack machine. DC Smart Growth “groups” like Ward 3 Vision and CP Smart Growth have gone around claiming that people who want to keep aspects of their neighborhoods like green space, pedestrian scale, and historic resources are somehow perpetuating “racism.” No one wants to ensure attacks like that. What’s really rich is that it’s some of the same folks associated with both groups who bring experience in GOP attack politics to the local level and will say anything to advance the special economic interests of their clients.

Yes, my spouse attends ANC meetings to share a different (than Smart growth) perspective and this captures the gist of the comments from the reps they deploy to the meetings. They are organized and have loads of rhetoric and talking points. The old methods of showing up for meetings and voicing opinions are clearly not enough to take them on. We need to do more. How do we start this in motion?

My husband and I attended several ANC meetings by Zoom this year. They were awful. The Density Bros dominated the meeting and used the chat function to beat up on anyone who voiced a contrary opinion. The new ANC chairman, who it turns out lives most of the time in Maryland, hired someone who claimed to be a journalist to “facilitate” the meeting, and then the “facilitator” used to chat function himself to attack anyone who disagreed with Smart Growth. (It should be called Snark Growth.”) People had to sign up for the ANC meeting using their email addresses. The ANC 3C “facilitator” had access to the emails and then later sent personal Go Fund Me appeals to a number of folks, seeking contributions to pay off his tax liabilities and move back to DC. Turns out thst he doesn’t really live here, either! It was very weird and inappropriate. The Smart Growth commissioners now in charge of ANC 3C come across as a bunch of bullies.

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Anonymous wrote:Hydrology, erosion etc are all here

https://dgs.dc.gov/page/hearst-park-and-pool-improvement-project

It doesn’t say anything about pumping water in perpetuity. And what happens when the pumps fail. And pretty indicative illustrations are not a reforestation or tee canopy restoration plan.

You are reaching now.

She needs to reach for her meds - I'm sure the post blaming this all on Trump is coming any moment now.

Oh - Did GGW, Ward (3) Vision and “CCCP Smart Growth” also push the Hearst Park pool as “vibrant urbanism”?

I'm actually somewhat surprised GGW hasn't written 15 blog posts opposing the use of parkland for recreational purposes when a sterile 80-unit luxury condo building could have been erected there. Such a waste of space to give the public something that everyone can enjoy when that space could have become 80 one-bedroom condos.

GGW has essentially written this very thing about Northwest DC’s two land trust conservancies - transit-accessible, would have been better for Smart Growth, yada yada yawn.

I'm so very tired of them..I watched when Columbia Heights metro came in and we were all so excited about some transformation of offerings. Instead, it looks and feels worse than before. Not because development is bad, but because rushed, souless development that doesn't take the neighborhood into account is..it also is very hard /impossible to undo the cement pour.

That all happened pre "smart growth" - no way DCUSA happens today.

What they’re building right next to Fannie Mae is ugly and overwhelming. “Smart Growth”?

Matter of right. Not Transit Oriented Development. So it is infill, but not "smart growth" - sorry to burst your bubble.

Wait! The largest, tallest development underway in Upper NW and you say that, because it’s “matter or right” zoning, it’s not “Smart Growth” somehow?
So by this logic, even though the Smart Growth industry lobbies for more and more upzoning in our our neighborhoods, in order to permit more, larger matter of right development, it will never truly be Smart Growth. Presumably this means that no matter how dense the development it will never be enough. It’s like Russia in Soviet times, when no matter how much power the state amassed and how much control is exercised in society, it would never be true Communism, which receded farther and farther into the future. (An interesting analogy given the past business connections between DC Smart Growth and shadowy Russian interests.)

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People across DC neighborhoods need to come together and form one. There are organizations that have tried to take on the DC Smart Growth Inc machine, like community associations, historic preservation groups, and the Committee of 100, but then but they become targets of the attack machine. DC Smart Growth “groups” like Ward 3 Vision and CP Smart Growth have gone around claiming that people who want to keep aspects of their neighborhoods like green space, pedestrian scale, and historic resources are somehow perpetuating “racism.” No one wants to ensure attacks like that. What’s really rich is that it’s some of the same folks associated with both groups who bring experience in GOP attack politics to the local level and will say anything to advance the special economic interests of their clients.

You have it backwards. The Smart Growth groups sprang up in response to the hyper-NIMBYism of the entrenched city and community groups. Ward 3 Vision was specifically born in response to the Tenley Neighborhood Association (which isn't even a real group) and the Friendship Neighborhood Association fighting every development proposal on the upper Wisconsin Avenue Corridor. Actually, I take that back, They were fighting even having a conversation about it, through the Upper Wisconsin Avenue Corridor Study.

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/253129/wisconsin-badgers/

And yes, perpetuating "small town feel" on corridors well served by buses and a billion dollar metro all to retain "neighborhood (read White) character, is in fact racist and protective of the racists past of these neighborhoods. You clearly don't want to acknowledge the research and evidence of this posted earlier in this thread, but that is ok, because anyone following this thread or reading along sees it for what it is.

It’s really stunning when the owner of the Trump polling firm blogs on behalf of two developer-funded Smart Growth astroturf groups that people who want to preserve green and historic features of their neighborhoods are “racist.”

Nice try, but this predates the person you are talking about being involved by about 15 years.

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People across DC neighborhoods need to come together and form one. There are organizations that have tried to take on the DC Smart Growth Inc machine, like community associations, historic preservation groups, and the Committee of 100, but then but they become targets of the attack machine. DC Smart Growth “groups” like Ward 3 Vision and CP Smart Growth have gone around claiming that people who want to keep aspects of their neighborhoods like green space, pedestrian scale, and historic resources are somehow perpetuating “racism.” No one wants to ensure attacks like that. What’s really rich is that it’s some of the same folks associated with both groups who bring experience in GOP attack politics to the local level and will say anything to advance the special economic interests of their clients.

You have it backwards. The Smart Growth groups sprang up in response to the hyper-NIMBYism of the entrenched city and community groups. Ward 3 Vision was specifically born in response to the Tenley Neighborhood Association (which isn't even a real group) and the Friendship Neighborhood Association fighting every development proposal on the upper Wisconsin Avenue Corridor. Actually, I take that back, They were fighting even having a conversation about it, through the Upper Wisconsin Avenue Corridor Study.

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/253129/wisconsin-badgers/

And yes, perpetuating "small town feel" on corridors well served by buses and a billion dollar metro all to retain "neighborhood (read White) character, is in fact racist and protective of the racists past of these neighborhoods. You clearly don't want to acknowledge the research and evidence of this posted earlier in this thread, but that is ok, because anyone following this thread or reading along sees it for what it is.

It’s really stunning when the owner of the Trump polling firm blogs on behalf of two developer-funded Smart Growth astroturf groups that people who want to preserve green and historic features of their neighborhoods are “racist.”

Nice try, but this predates the person you are talking about being involved by about 15 years.

This is the type of GOP attack crap that Ward III Vision and CP Smart Growth have been pushing out fir the last couple of years. Trumpers pretending to be woke to sell their clients’ special interest agenda.

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Or, just maybe, the people who have been supporting a better environmental solution to the built environment, and more housing resulting in more affordable housing, for the past 20 years are, you know, actually "woke."

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Anonymous wrote:Or, just maybe, the people who have been supporting a better environmental solution to the built environment, and more housing resulting in more affordable housing, for the past 20 years are, you know, actually "woke."

It’s ridiculous when a Smart Growth operative polls and message tests campaign themes for a climate-denier President, yet at the same time spinsfor other clients that massive development will address climate change. These are simply cynical and hollow talking points for DC Smart Growth.

Speaking of climate change, look at the demolition of 4000 Wisconsin Avenue. Why isn’t more of the building structure being reused and renovated for the planned housing development? Think of the carbon footprint resulting from the demo of all of that concrete and steel, the hundreds, if not thousands of dump trucks needed to haul the rubble to landfills, and the carbon emissions to fabricate more steel and concrete for the replacement development. It’s wasteful and shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, just maybe, the people who have been supporting a better environmental solution to the built environment, and more housing resulting in more affordable housing, for the past 20 years are, you know, actually "woke."

It’s ridiculous when a Smart Growth operative polls and message tests campaign themes for a climate-denier President, yet at the same time spinsfor other clients that massive development will address climate change. These are simply cynical and hollow talking points for DC Smart Growth.

Speaking of climate change, look at the demolition of 4000 Wisconsin Avenue. Why isn’t more of the building structure being reused and renovated for the planned housing development? Think of the carbon footprint resulting from the demo of all of that concrete and steel, the hundreds, if not thousands of dump trucks needed to haul the rubble to landfills, and the carbon emissions to fabricate more steel and concrete for the replacement development. It’s wasteful and shameful.

good point. And I cannot believe how they completely destroyed the facade on the building next to Fannie Mae? It was sort of wonderfully 80s--so ugly that it "worked" and even had a retro/Stranger things vibe by now. This crew (GGW) surely lives to bulldoze.

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Another matter of right project. Ask the property owner.

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Anonymous wrote:Another matter of right project. Ask the property owner.

An excellent reason why DC shouldn’t FLUM up and upzone DC neighborhoods to permit this and even larger projects as a “matter of right” without regulatory review (in which community interests are heard).

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Anonymous wrote:Or, just maybe, the people who have been supporting a better environmental solution to the built environment, and more housing resulting in more affordable housing, for the past 20 years are, you know, actually "woke."

It’s ridiculous when a Smart Growth operative polls and message tests campaign themes for a climate-denier President, yet at the same time spinsfor other clients that massive development will address climate change. These are simply cynical and hollow talking points for DC Smart Growth.

Speaking of climate change, look at the demolition of 4000 Wisconsin Avenue. Why isn’t more of the building structure being reused and renovated for the planned housing development? Think of the carbon footprint resulting from the demo of all of that concrete and steel, the hundreds, if not thousands of dump trucks needed to haul the rubble to landfills, and the carbon emissions to fabricate more steel and concrete for the replacement development. It’s wasteful and shameful.

good point. And I cannot believe how they completely destroyed the facade on the building next to Fannie Mae? It was sort of wonderfully 80s--so ugly that it "worked" and even had a retro/Stranger things vibe by now. This crew (GGW) surely lives to bulldoze.

It’s a start demonstration that the talking points peddled by Ward 3 Vision, CP Smart Growth and the rest of the DC Smart Growth industry - that all of this dense development is good for the climate - are l complete ерунда. (That’s Russian for bulls%#t.)

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"smart growth industry" = environmentalists, people who support racial justice, affordable housing advocates, and mobility choices.

Quite the cabal.

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Anonymous wrote:"smart growth industry" = environmentalists, people who support racial justice, affordable housing advocates, and mobility choices.

Quite the cabal.

More like major development companies, lesser developers that still have strong political ties to the mayor, real estate investors, zoning law firms, consultants and Trumpy hired-gun political operatives.

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Anonymous wrote:"smart growth industry" = environmentalists, people who support racial justice, affordable housing advocates, and mobility choices.

Quite the cabal.

I wonder if we can get people to stop using "cabal" in this time of increased sensitivity about prejudicial language? Don't you think?

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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cabal

1) a small group of secret plotters, as against a government or person in authority.

2) the plots and schemes of such a group; intrigue.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cabal

1) a small group of secret plotters, as against a government or person in authority.

2) the plots and schemes of such a group; intrigue.

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/cabal