A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did the many missing messages go?

Were they mean to the liberals?

Nope, they were quite substantive, on both sides.

If you're referring to the troll posts, there was nothing substantive about them. Just unhinged ranting and raving from a Trump-hater who needs a hobby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He will win because he will start purging the government of and country of all opposition. He will dismantle democracy and become an authoritarian ruler. He will literally seize power not earn it.

How about you address the illegal migrant crisis?

+1
Seriously. They think if they ignore it, it will just go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Without equivocation, YOU ARE DUMBER than the orange pile of male bovine excrement presently occupying the White House

Thank you for the compliment.

I am switching sides because, as we have seen in this whole thread, on side is capable of reasoning and civility and the other, well, seems to have other talents.

+100
It's exhausting and futile trying to converse with people who are clearly not playing with a full deck and/or just plain trolls.

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

FIFY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Without equivocation, YOU ARE DUMBER than the orange pile of male bovine excrement presently occupying the White House

Thank you for the compliment.

I am switching sides because, as we have seen in this whole thread, on side is capable of reasoning and civility and the other, well, seems to have other talents.

+100
It's exhausting and futile trying to converse with people who are clearly not playing with a full deck and/or just plain trolls.

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

FIFY.

Sorry, no,

Trump supporters are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe right-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

You can try to lie all you want, but we see through you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Without equivocation, YOU ARE DUMBER than the orange pile of male bovine excrement presently occupying the White House

Thank you for the compliment.

I am switching sides because, as we have seen in this whole thread, on side is capable of reasoning and civility and the other, well, seems to have other talents.

+100
It's exhausting and futile trying to converse with people who are clearly not playing with a full deck and/or just plain trolls.

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

FIFY.

Sorry, no,

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

You can try to lie all you want, but we see through you.

Totally agree!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are better today than in 2016, and hopefully a majority of Americans realize that.

What do you think? Is it a done deal that Trump will win again and be able to deliver 8 years of peace and prosperity?

Without equivocation, YOU ARE DUMBER than the orange pile of male bovine excrement presently occupying the White House

Thank you for the compliment.

I am switching sides because, as we have seen in this whole thread, on side is capable of reasoning and civility and the other, well, seems to have other talents.

+100
It's exhausting and futile trying to converse with people who are clearly not playing with a full deck and/or just plain trolls.

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

FIFY.

Sorry, no,

Nutty liberals are the epitome of these things, either not very bright, crazy enough to believe left-wing propaganda, or just selfish. Reasoning and civility are not in their wheelhouse.

You can try to lie all you want, but we see through you.

Totally agree!

Try coming up with an original thought...oh no, you can't. You are Weird Al Yankovic's black sheep sibling on the Political Forum.

No matter how many times you type your lies, no matter how many times you parrot your right-wing propaganda, they will not become true.

Are you the troll who keeps parroting the same drivel ("cultists, liar-in-chief, cult 45," etc.)? If so, maybe take your own advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

[Anonymous]

Trump is not fighting for America. He only cares about himself. And you handed him a way to make more money and have more influence

If Russia offered him a throne tomorrow he would immediately abandon America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

That’s why you are cultists. You have no clue that you are being taken for a ride by the career conman and liar. He is enacting an extensive reality tv. That’s all. All he has done so far is tax cuts for himself, he doubled H2B visas so he can get unlimited foreigners to fill waitress jobs at his properties, and he never implemented everify at his properties so he can hire illegals.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/trump-immigration-h2b-visas-story.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/6/donald-trump-companies-ignoring-e-verify-hiring-il/

All he does is harass the poor refugees to con people like you. No wall, no deportation of dreamers or other illegals any more than Obama did. No coal/steel jobs with more coal plants shut down. His tariffs are hurting American farmers. His steel tariffs have led to GM, Ford shutting down factories. He is a master con artist. He is crashing the stock market to buy stocks on the low every time he announces tariffs. He tried to revoke Obamacare but couldn’t because it is popular.

You are just a fool he is cashing on. The rich are looking after their own interests not yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

Yeah right. It is the conman who doubles h2Bs so he can profit from foreign waitresses NOt Obama. He doesn’t even have everify at his companies. Educate yourself and think objectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

+1.

Funny that some acolyte of the Cult of Identity Politics, Systemic Whining, Division and Violence says "Truth alone triumphs."

Yup, that's 2016 in a nutshell and, most likely, 2020 too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

+1.

Funny that some acolyte of the Cult of Identity Politics, Systemic Whining, Division and Violence says "Truth alone triumphs."

Yup, that's 2016 in a nutshell and, most likely, 2020 too.

It is the liar who practices white identity politics. All he has to do is harass non whites and the supremacists will vote for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.

There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.

That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.

+1.

Funny that some acolyte of the Cult of Identity Politics, Systemic Whining, Division and Violence says "Truth alone triumphs."

Yup, that's 2016 in a nutshell and, most likely, 2020 too.

It is the liar who practices white identity politics. All he has to do is harass non whites and the supremacists will vote for him.

A warm welcome to this thread!!

Now, please tell us, why are you optimistic about Trump winning in 2020? What has he done to make someone like you support him?

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I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/pres...tion_trump_vs_warren-6251.html








Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/pres...sidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.


Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.



At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.


Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.


But that's exactly what you're doing, in reverse. You despise Trump, and your every ridiculous post makes that abundantly clear. You hate him, and you don't want him to win. Fine - you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it does beg the question - why on earth do you continue participating on a thread which is about why we think he WILL win in 2020? You do realize there's another thread designed for people like you to rant and rave about Trump, right? Why are you here and not there? You're just clogging up this thread with your hateful, rage-filled posts. Take it elsewhere, or better yet, take your meds.


There is no hate or rage. Just sadness at what the country has come down to. If 1/3 of Americans(like you) have no sense of a basic human decency and support an incompetent, uncouth, depraved person then what values do you have. What values does this country have ? Now don’t get into whataboutism.

People and the country has to stand on values, ideas and ideals that are worth fighting for. America is an idea that’s worth fighting for. An idea that diverse people bound by values, ideals and ideas can merge their differences and find a common voice, a common goal and set an example for humanity to aspire for. That’s what progressivism is all about. It is easy to divide people by race, color, religion etc but it is a challenge to unite people. Trump is like the last call from the past, a past that was divisive, unfair , unjust to many American citizens. So no , we don’t want that last to continue. We want a new beginning. Obama was a good beginning. We will keep finding ways to make America fair, equal and great for everyone not just the white man or the rich man.

The dark forces always loses. Truth alone triumphs.



That's exactly why Trump was elected - because America IS an idea that's worth fighting for, and someone like Obama was content to put American interests second to the rest of the world. I'm not sure who you're speaking for, but it's not me and certainly not millions of other people.


+1.

Funny that some acolyte of the Cult of Identity Politics, Systemic Whining, Division and Violence says "Truth alone triumphs."

Yup, that's 2016 in a nutshell and, most likely, 2020 too.

The only violence I saw during the campaign was associated with Trump rallies. It's hard to believe how blind this Trump supporter is.

I get that Trump promised he would screw the people who caused hardship in 2008. But he's not doing that. Open your eyes. He is not helping you and if destroying the rest of us is how you think you will win, well, that's a losing game for us as a country.

We had a bad choice in 2016, but whatever you believe you must see that Trump is making things worse. There is someone way better out there who needs to be elected. Frankly, I don't care which party the person comes from as long as they offer more stability and a unifying perspective and speak for the common person in America. It's not Trump. Trump proves every day that he is all about himself.

Sorry, but America is too important to have Trump stickers all over it. We do have shared values and Trump represents the antithesis of them.