Subtle signs of class

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget Mormon rich and influencer culture!

Some of those people make serious coin doing that.

...I grew up around some pretty affluent Mormon families. I have relatives who are big donors to BYU.

It is a world unto itself.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).

What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status

People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.

Oh dear.

The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.

I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?

Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).

Stickley poster. I bought the table and chairs as a set because I wanted to emphasize the inlays on the table and chairs. They’re really pretty imho. Being able to do that kind of work shows true craftsman ship.

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

There are lots of rich people though.

What about Hollywood elite? Tech elite? Southern rich? Indian rich? Chinese rich?

None of them aspire to live like miserly WASPs.

Don’t waste your time PP. People have been trying to point this out for pages but a few posters refuse to move on from WASPs as the epitome of UC culture. There’s no other way of being rich in America

The funny thing is, most of their fortunes have dwindled over the generations and very very few of them are anywhere near as rich as the groups you mention.

It sounds like some of you are butthurt that your furniture isn’t considered upper class.

And yet you claim you don’t care about any of this.

So why on earth are you still here? Go outside and enjoy the warm weather before it rains.

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

+1. I was just going to post something similar. I am fascinated. And no, there is nothing missing in my life.

And I LOVE the WC profile writer! I’ve never heard or read anything by Fussell, but I’ve ordered his book on class.

JFC. The last thing we need around here is more weirdos obsessed with class and SES markers.

The fact that you wrote “JFC” tells me a lot about your class.

LOL. You all are so insufferable! Ha ha.

Touched a nerve, I see.

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

+1. I was just going to post something similar. I am fascinated. And no, there is nothing missing in my life.

And I LOVE the WC profile writer! I’ve never heard or read anything by Fussell, but I’ve ordered his book on class.

JFC. The last thing we need around here is more weirdos obsessed with class and SES markers.

The fact that you wrote “JFC” tells me a lot about your class.

LOL. You all are so insufferable! Ha ha.

Touched a nerve, I see.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real question isn't WHAT furniture you have (it should already be impeccable), but WHERE you put it:

1. Your McLean/Bethesda 'main house,' 2. Your McLean/Bethesda 'guest house' (across the pool), 3. Your Nantucket beach estate or 4. Your Jackson Hole chalet.

And this is how you live, I suppose?

If not, who are you to look down on others for not having a second and third home in the most expensive resort areas of the US?

This is what I mean by gate keeping in this thread.

It’s a bunch of people talking out of their asses about how other people live, not themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget Mormon rich and influencer culture!

Some of those people make serious coin doing that.

Olivia Jade is not classy....

[Anonymous]

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

There are lots of rich people though.

What about Hollywood elite? Tech elite? Southern rich? Indian rich? Chinese rich?

None of them aspire to live like miserly WASPs.

Don’t waste your time PP. People have been trying to point this out for pages but a few posters refuse to move on from WASPs as the epitome of UC culture. There’s no other way of being rich in America

The funny thing is, most of their fortunes have dwindled over the generations and very very few of them are anywhere near as rich as the groups you mention.

It sounds like some of you are butthurt that your furniture isn’t considered upper class.

And yet you claim you don’t care about any of this.

So why on earth are you still here? Go outside and enjoy the warm weather before it rains.

To tell you the truth, I am offended that someone called me lower class because I bought some Stickley furniture. It is so rude and dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget Mormon rich and influencer culture!

Some of those people make serious coin doing that.

Olivia Jade is not classy....

She’s much richer than you though! Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real question isn't WHAT furniture you have (it should already be impeccable), but WHERE you put it:

1. Your McLean/Bethesda 'main house,' 2. Your McLean/Bethesda 'guest house' (across the pool), 3. Your Nantucket beach estate or 4. Your Jackson Hole chalet.

And this is how you live, I suppose?

If not, who are you to look down on others for not having a second and third home in the most expensive resort areas of the US?

This is what I mean by gate keeping in this thread.

It’s a bunch of people talking out of their asses about how other people live, not themselves.

I talked about myself, and you posters who claim to be uninterested slammed me. Very classy of you....

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Anonymous wrote:The real question isn't WHAT furniture you have (it should already be impeccable), but WHERE you put it:

1. Your McLean/Bethesda 'main house,' 2. Your McLean/Bethesda 'guest house' (across the pool), 3. Your Nantucket beach estate or 4. Your Jackson Hole chalet.

And this is how you live, I suppose?

If not, who are you to look down on others for not having a second and third home in the most expensive resort areas of the US?

This is what I mean by gate keeping in this thread.

It’s a bunch of people talking out of their asses about how other people live, not themselves.

I talked about myself, and you posters who claim to be uninterested slammed me. Very classy of you....

Yeah right

I don’t believe you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget Mormon rich and influencer culture!

Some of those people make serious coin doing that.

Olivia Jade is not classy....

She’s much richer than you though! Lol

And she may be going to jail along with her parents. Lucky or happy? You decide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real question isn't WHAT furniture you have (it should already be impeccable), but WHERE you put it:

1. Your McLean/Bethesda 'main house,' 2. Your McLean/Bethesda 'guest house' (across the pool), 3. Your Nantucket beach estate or 4. Your Jackson Hole chalet.

And this is how you live, I suppose?

If not, who are you to look down on others for not having a second and third home in the most expensive resort areas of the US?

This is what I mean by gate keeping in this thread.

It’s a bunch of people talking out of their asses about how other people live, not themselves.

I talked about myself, and you posters who claim to be uninterested slammed me. Very classy of you....

Yeah right

I don’t believe you

And I don’t care if some internet troll with class anxiety believes me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget Mormon rich and influencer culture!

Some of those people make serious coin doing that.

Olivia Jade is not classy....

She’s much richer than you though! Lol

And she may be going to jail along with her parents. Lucky or happy? You decide.

That’s the older sister.

[Anonymous]

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Nobody’s saying you have to buy antique furniture. It’s just that class is the subject of this thread. Also, reupholsters and refinishers (although preserving original patina is valued and is historically responsible) exist.

You don’t even realize that you’re STILL talking about Old Money WASP culture as if it’s the be all and end all. It’s not!

It is, however, the subject of this thread. Find a new thread if you don’t like this topic.

There are lots of rich people though.

What about Hollywood elite? Tech elite? Southern rich? Indian rich? Chinese rich?

None of them aspire to live like miserly WASPs.

Don’t waste your time PP. People have been trying to point this out for pages but a few posters refuse to move on from WASPs as the epitome of UC culture. There’s no other way of being rich in America

The funny thing is, most of their fortunes have dwindled over the generations and very very few of them are anywhere near as rich as the groups you mention.

It sounds like some of you are butthurt that your furniture isn’t considered upper class.

And yet you claim you don’t care about any of this.

So why on earth are you still here? Go outside and enjoy the warm weather before it rains.

To tell you the truth, I am offended that someone called me lower class because I bought some Stickley furniture. It is so rude and dumb.

Honestly, your furniture sounds lovely. Nobody called you lower class, but they did say it was middle class because you were putting it out there as being upper class. That’s the risk we all take when we put personal stuff on DCUM, as we’ve all found out at one point or another.