Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

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Maybe they will all just shut off the detectors and they can just stay as decoration.

I do have to wonder if this is what will happen in the long run. By the end of the school year, they will be pushed to the side. Then, they will sit on a blacktop somewhere after that.

They have a huge warehouse for all the materials that only last a year and FCPS gets rid of. Millions and Millions of dollars wasted.

In news reports, Red approved $6 millions for this. Do you mean it is $6M recurring annual cost?

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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.

I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!

If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.

It seems like teachers are tasked with everything but the time to plan and teach....sad for them and students.

I wonder how first period teachers feel about multiple students being late every day.

So much this...and the kids how do they feel in school with this chaos.

How would you feel starting your work day exhausted by standing in an airport security line (only outside, in the rain) for an hour. Every morning.

Exactly and then they have to search for bathrooms that aren't' locked

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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.

I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!

If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.

It seems like teachers are tasked with everything but the time to plan and teach....sad for them and students.

I wonder how first period teachers feel about multiple students being late every day.

So much this...and the kids how do they feel in school with this chaos.

How would you feel starting your work day exhausted by standing in an airport security line (only outside, in the rain) for an hour. Every morning.

These time should be spending on teaching for teachers.

Exactly and then they have to search for bathrooms that aren't' locked

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my kid also was told to hold her laptop above her head. not sure which school as she does go to an academy class.

She also set off the detector at the academy school on day 2. They told her to go to another kind of separate scanner and she just went to class. Nobody stopped her. When she went back to base school she didn't set it off with the same stuff, so who knows.

Amazing. Teach your kids not to comply.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

Contact the SB and share your concerns about student safety. Your kids deserve to be safe at school.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

Yes.

I feel this is much less safe.

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Office of Chief Safety and Security Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/department/office-chief-safety-and-security-officer

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/safety-security

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

No. I agree with what you wrote and as many have said I'm all for keeping our kids safe but this is not it. My mind is still blown that the athletes and other clubs are int he building in the morning and then asked to leave and come back through the metal detectors. I think we are all smart enough to know that this makes zero sense. As others have said kids are expected to to go to the main building through the metal detectors and then go to trailers....ummm what. Who is checking to make sure kids really are going through metal detectors. Make it make sense.

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Hopefully this mess makes them scrap the idea of adding the metal detectors at the Middle Schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.

I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!

If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.

Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.

Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.

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Anonymous wrote:Same issues with Marshall. Two doors can be used for entry - the front (buses) and the back (kiss and ride and student drivers). The walkers can no longer use the side entrance.

My kids said they had to take out their Chromebooks, binders and metal water bottle, hand it all to a guy on the side, walk through the detectors, and then pack it back up.

What about the metal thermo lunch jar in the lunch box?

I presume everything metal would need to come out. My kids plan on buying lunch to avoid needing to also deconstruct lunch boxes at the door.

Band instruments?? I’m thinking about flutes, brass instruments, etc.?

My kid's friend took a trombone through the weapons detector yesterday morning and it didn't set off the machine. I don't buy that the machine can tell the difference between a trombone and a machine gun.

Trombones are not magnetic. Guns (generally) are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

Correct. FCPS has created a threat (large crowds) and done nothing to mitigate the existing threat (weapons in schools).

A lose lose proposition. Amazing work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.

I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!

If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.

Unfortunately it’s required for student safety. There are vapes and weapons being brought to school. The detectors and supervision in the halls/bathroom areas help address vaping, fighting, bullying, assaults, and more. FCPS could also ask for parent volunteers. Elementary teachers have always had duties as part of their day. Most parents are thankful for the extra safety precautions and staff supervision. I wish teachers had more time, but FCPS could choose to hire more security guards or allow parebt volunteers. Money could be taken from other places in the budget to fund this. This is an FCPS problem.

Speak for yourself. I and many other parents think this is a performance on par with what Trump is currently doing downtown. The kids aren't safer. There are still plenty of ways for an enterprising student to get a weapon in -- none of the items being put to the side (water bottles, three-ring binders) are getting secondary screening -- and we're increasing the danger by assembling a large group of sitting ducks daily. This is money taken from actual education and spent instead on creating a false sense of security. So, no, I am not thankful.

Westfield parent here-every parent I know with a HSer is furious, irate, angry, frustrated with this fake security theater BS.
No one is "thankful".
We complained last year when the pilot was a complete failure and got NO response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, did they fire the people who did those jobs last year (obviously, the metal detector jobs are new, and absurd).

Exactly. These duties should’ve always been in place for student safety. It’s concerning that these duties (hall/bathroom supervision) are just now being implemented. This is why the MS/HS are rampant with fights, vaping, bullying, assaults, and more. Thankfully they are starting to address it so students can be safer at school.

Am I the only one feel my kids is less safe under FCPS new security measure? Hundreds, sometimes over one thousand students gathering outside for long time regularly daily is not safe. The unshielded crowd could become an easy target of mass shooting. Also, how many SROs does each middle and high school have? The long lines outside also need adults to maintain the order and provide protection.

No. I agree with what you wrote and as many have said I'm all for keeping our kids safe but this is not it. My mind is still blown that the athletes and other clubs are int he building in the morning and then asked to leave and come back through the metal detectors. I think we are all smart enough to know that this makes zero sense. As others have said kids are expected to to go to the main building through the metal detectors and then go to trailers....ummm what. Who is checking to make sure kids really are going through metal detectors. Make it make sense.

If the purpose of this is to make the teachers feel more safe from the students, then it makes sense. That may be why the parents and the board were not asked. If there are thousands of kids outside who are a shooting target, then that means the teachers inside the building are not the target. "I do not need to run faster than a bear - I just need to run faster than you."