Basis fills a gap that shouldn’t exist.

[Anonymous]

its not the drop between 8th and 9th because thats a natural exit point (to private/dcps application hs/other more typical hs option with more ecs etc.). its the attrition after 6th/7th and during hs that raises eyebrows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Attention rate? lol. Pay attention:

DCI and Latin socially promote, have lower test scores, and worse college outcomes. Some kids don’t go to college.

BASIS DC is ranked the #139th best public school in the United States.

No social promotion, no backfilling, great test scores, and top-notch college outcomes.

The model works great for academically motivated kids. Sign me up.

+1 million.

Apparently, a lot of people don’t understand how the model works in DC given PCSB and the Basis charter.

I’m a “Basis booster” as they say, but see no need to dunk on DCI and Latin, both of which work quite well for motivated students willing to take advantage of all their offerings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

Give me a break. Ballou loses two thirds of its students between 9th and 12th grade. Roosevelt High School's senior class is 60 percent smaller than its freshman class. Dunbar loses more than half its students. And 60 percent of ALL high school students in DC are chronically absent. Y'all just looking for reasons to complain about BASIS.

The jealously towards BASIS is BANANAS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Attention rate? lol. Pay attention:

DCI and Latin socially promote, have lower test scores, and worse college outcomes. Some kids don’t go to college.

BASIS DC is ranked the #139th best public school in the United States.

No social promotion, no backfilling, great test scores, and top-notch college outcomes.

The model works great for academically motivated kids. Sign me up.

+1 million.

Apparently, a lot of people don’t understand how the model works in DC given PCSB and the Basis charter.

I’m a “Basis booster” as they say, but see no need to dunk on DCI and Latin, both of which work quite well for motivated students willing to take advantage of all their offerings.

Latin has way more poor kids than BASIS. They reserve more than four times as many seats as BASIS for kids who are homeless, get food stamps, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Backfilling at Latin is a nonissue because virtually no one leaves. Backfilling at BASIS would be a disaster, for the school and the students who are added. They'd have even more attrition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Attention rate? lol. Pay attention:

DCI and Latin socially promote, have lower test scores, and worse college outcomes. Some kids don’t go to college.

BASIS DC is ranked the #139th best public school in the United States.

No social promotion, no backfilling, great test scores, and top-notch college outcomes.

The model works great for academically motivated kids. Sign me up.

+1 million.

Apparently, a lot of people don’t understand how the model works in DC given PCSB and the Basis charter.

I’m a “Basis booster” as they say, but see no need to dunk on DCI and Latin, both of which work quite well for motivated students willing to take advantage of all their offerings.

Latin has way more poor kids than BASIS. They reserve more than four times as many seats as BASIS for kids who are homeless, get food stamps, etc.

And that is all very well and nice for Latin. EA has been quite disruptive and resented at YuYing and Mundo. Basis is doing enough and should not allow itself to be browbeat by shortsighted “equity” demands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Attention rate? lol. Pay attention:

DCI and Latin socially promote, have lower test scores, and worse college outcomes. Some kids don’t go to college.

BASIS DC is ranked the #139th best public school in the United States.

No social promotion, no backfilling, great test scores, and top-notch college outcomes.

The model works great for academically motivated kids. Sign me up.

This.

Basis ROCKS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

Now provide the percentages for kids below grade level at Latin and DCI that are socially promoted every year.

Just because kids don’t leave doesn’t mean the school is any good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

Now provide the percentages for kids below grade level at Latin and DCI that are socially promoted every year.

Just because kids don’t leave doesn’t mean the school is any good.

Here is a light bulb. If you have tracking, it doesn’t matter because kids will be grouped by ability level and the high performing kids won’t be in the same class as the lower performing kids. Classes will also progress at different pace and depth on what that group can handle.

Lastly, when you have such low retention rates and lose 1/3rd of your class by 8th and 1/2 by 9th before even ending middle school, that is concerning and a red flag. These grades are not a typical transition like 9th to 10th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

Now provide the percentages for kids below grade level at Latin and DCI that are socially promoted every year.

Just because kids don’t leave doesn’t mean the school is any good.

Back to you. When lots of kids leave, that might mean the school is not good either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

Now provide the percentages for kids below grade level at Latin and DCI that are socially promoted every year.

Just because kids don’t leave doesn’t mean the school is any good.

I'm sorry your kid didnt get into Latin. You can commiserate with all the other BASIS parents. They preferred Latin too, but not everyone can win the lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:141 5th graders to 58 11th graders?

For a public school?

Wow.

60% attention rate.

Range is going to be anywhere between 40-60%.

DCI 4-5%

Latin - I would guess also similar under 5%.

Huge contrast

Latin has a much higher retention, but they also backfill at every grade level. First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 5th grade class: 95 > 94 (92) > 91 (89) > 96 (91) > 94 (77) > 89 (89)
SY20-21 5th grade class: 95 > 96 (94) > 95 (95) > 97 (93) > 95 (78)
SY21-22 5th grade class: 96 > 93 (91) > 100 (93) > 98 (96)
SY22-23 5th grade class: 99 > 99 (95) > 98 (97)
SY23-24 5th grade class: 97 > 97 (96)

Same data for DCI.

First number is number of students enrolled, number in parentheses is the number of students who continued on from the prior year.

SY19-20 6th grade class: 254 > 260 (242) > 249 (241) > 247 (211) > 208 (205) > 203 (196)
SY20-21 6th grade class: 262 > 258 (248) > 268 (249) > 241 (222) > 228 (227)
SY21-22 6th grade class: 259 > 246 (235) > 246 (238) > 240 (201)
SY22-23 6th grade class: 272 > 257 (253) > 247 (239)
SY23-24 6th grade class: 274 > 262 (259)

If we make the simplifying assumption that all Latin and DCI attrition comes from the original class, we get retention rates from original class as follows:

BASIS retention through 8th: 59-73%
BASIS retention through 9th: 42-43%
DCI retention through 8th: 86-91%
DCI retention through 9th: 70-74%
Latin retention through 8th: 91-96%
Latin retention through 9th: 72-76%

Now provide the percentages for kids below grade level at Latin and DCI that are socially promoted every year.

Just because kids don’t leave doesn’t mean the school is any good.

Here is a light bulb. If you have tracking, it doesn’t matter because kids will be grouped by ability level and the high performing kids won’t be in the same class as the lower performing kids. Classes will also progress at different pace and depth on what that group can handle.

Lastly, when you have such low retention rates and lose 1/3rd of your class by 8th and 1/2 by 9th before even ending middle school, that is concerning and a red flag. These grades are not a typical transition like 9th to 10th.

Typo above meant 7th and 8th. Transition from 8th to 9th