American Riviera Orchard and Meghan Markle

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

You know they do not want her to have any job or start any business ventures. What would really make them happy is if she is jobless, penniless, divorced, lose custody of her kids and living on the street.

Who is "they"?

The ominous “they” that forced Meghan to be described by a former boss as a “f’ing grifter,” the evil powers which forced Tom Bower to find impeccable sources calling her the nastiest, meanest person they’d met when doing a (prior cheaply made tacky shit) campaign for Reitmans (for all their litigiousness they haven’t found time to sue him over the past years), the terrible they forcing delicate Meghan to announce this imminent failure without benefit of products or good production values or even spell-checking “riviera” on the Instagram page initially. They have soooo much power, but not hashtag boss byyyitch power, unlike a certain uh creator.

Why are you so worked up about this. Bill Simmons called her and Harry grifters. Okay, Bill Simmons is an obnoxious blowhard with a lot of wrong opinions, so I don't really care one way or another. Sounds like she was difficult on that one commercial, but she has a bunch of friends from her actual years on Suits who have nice things to say about her so she's probably not actually the meanest person in the history of mankind.

I don't assume Meghan is some kind of angel sent from heaven to save us -- she's probably a flawed person like any of us and has good moments and bad. But in the grand scheme of things, what has she ever done that would merit the amount of vitriol against her? She was demanding on a commercial set over a decade ago? Okay, better cancel literally 90% of Hollywood then. She had a deal to make podcasts and she underperformed? Oh no, that is very directly relevant to my life and absolutely justifies anger towards her.

I just don't get the hate. I don't get worship either, but I don't worship any celebrities so that never makes sense. But of all the people to just absolutely loathe, I don't understand how Meghan Markle, who frankly seems pretty middle of the road to me (and who I do think was treated pretty badly by both the royal family and the British press during her time there, whatever her other merits and demerits as a person) inspires so much outrage. She is launching some kind of lifestyle brand. Big whoop. Do you also hate Rachel Ray and Chrissy Teigan and Gwyneth Paltrow and Martha Stewart? Who cares?

Its the victimization for me.

And the metric ton of lies of mistreatment including racist mistreatment, including by the media. I have no regard for anyone who sees it differently. I don’t love Simmons, but no, his screed does not suggest that they didn’t hit their numbers so he flayed them. It suggests an overweening entitlement and how unpleasant it is to deal with them. All of their moves have that in common.

The other celebrities in the list above by and large do not pretend they are made of kinder stuff than others, or to be unusually politically progressive, or to be unusually charitable, to just give so much that it hurts. It’s a pretty big difference. If you aren’t bright enough see it, you can’t be helped, but I hope you tell your kids to make sure you don’t fall prey to scammers as you age, because you’re probably pretty susceptible.

If you can’t see the comedy in what’s launched, that’s a real shame, too.

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Anonymous wrote:A girl has gotta eat, so I guess selling empty nonsense to fools easily parted from their money is pretty harmless. But anyone else find the name or the enterprise a pretty nonsensical lifestyle branding word salad?

There is already an American Riviera Bank in Montecito. They could not just launch with American Riviera so they had to find another word to tack on.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

How did Reese get hired and stay working since she’s older than Meghan and obviously she has all the sort of injuries that come with age that prevented Mike Tindall from sticking with rugby?

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At least the acronym is pretty nice. ARO would be better branding

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

There are other women that have funded their own tv and film projects. Reese is just the first to come to my mind. No reason at all not to try, even if it is just a small project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least the acronym is pretty nice. ARO would be better branding

Agree. I actually would assume they will mostly work with the acronym and not the full name, which is just too much of a mouthful.

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I bet Meghan could become a guest judge on AGT unless Simon Cowell hates her.

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I have to think that Meghan knows she was extremely mediocre at acting and that is why she has not returned to it.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

How did Reese get hired and stay working since she’s older than Meghan and obviously she has all the sort of injuries that come with age that prevented Mike Tindall from sticking with rugby?

Dp
I like MM more than most but I don't think it would be easy to see past her position and accept her as a character in an acting role. I'm sorry to say, that ship may have sailed. Lifestyle branding is good but I'd like to see her promoting fashion, decor or travel more than jams. But who doesn't love jam?

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

You know they do not want her to have any job or start any business ventures. What would really make them happy is if she is jobless, penniless, divorced, lose custody of her kids and living on the street.

Who is "they"?

The ominous “they” that forced Meghan to be described by a former boss as a “f’ing grifter,” the evil powers which forced Tom Bower to find impeccable sources calling her the nastiest, meanest person they’d met when doing a (prior cheaply made tacky shit) campaign for Reitmans (for all their litigiousness they haven’t found time to sue him over the past years), the terrible they forcing delicate Meghan to announce this imminent failure without benefit of products or good production values or even spell-checking “riviera” on the Instagram page initially. They have soooo much power, but not hashtag boss byyyitch power, unlike a certain uh creator.

Why are you so worked up about this. Bill Simmons called her and Harry grifters. Okay, Bill Simmons is an obnoxious blowhard with a lot of wrong opinions, so I don't really care one way or another. Sounds like she was difficult on that one commercial, but she has a bunch of friends from her actual years on Suits who have nice things to say about her so she's probably not actually the meanest person in the history of mankind.

I don't assume Meghan is some kind of angel sent from heaven to save us -- she's probably a flawed person like any of us and has good moments and bad. But in the grand scheme of things, what has she ever done that would merit the amount of vitriol against her? She was demanding on a commercial set over a decade ago? Okay, better cancel literally 90% of Hollywood then. She had a deal to make podcasts and she underperformed? Oh no, that is very directly relevant to my life and absolutely justifies anger towards her.

I just don't get the hate. I don't get worship either, but I don't worship any celebrities so that never makes sense. But of all the people to just absolutely loathe, I don't understand how Meghan Markle, who frankly seems pretty middle of the road to me (and who I do think was treated pretty badly by both the royal family and the British press during her time there, whatever her other merits and demerits as a person) inspires so much outrage. She is launching some kind of lifestyle brand. Big whoop. Do you also hate Rachel Ray and Chrissy Teigan and Gwyneth Paltrow and Martha Stewart? Who cares?

I agree, PP.

Thing is, you'd be hard pressed to find a MM worshiper on this board. Many of us (who are called sugars by the royal defenders) are like you--we are people who find the vitriol to be unjustified and bizarre and likely based on misinformation and jealousy.

We question it, and we call out the hypocrisy when we see it.

[DP]

Why do you have to be a "worshipper" or a "hater"? There's plenty of room in between to have opinions. This is the entertainment forum, after all.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

How did Reese get hired and stay working since she’s older than Meghan and obviously she has all the sort of injuries that come with age that prevented Mike Tindall from sticking with rugby?

Dp
I like MM more than most but I don't think it would be easy to see past her position and accept her as a character in an acting role. I'm sorry to say, that ship may have sailed. Lifestyle branding is good but I'd like to see her promoting fashion, decor or travel more than jams. But who doesn't love jam?

I disagree. Many actors have reinvented themselves on screen.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

How did Reese get hired and stay working since she’s older than Meghan and obviously she has all the sort of injuries that come with age that prevented Mike Tindall from sticking with rugby?

Dp
I like MM more than most but I don't think it would be easy to see past her position and accept her as a character in an acting role. I'm sorry to say, that ship may have sailed. Lifestyle branding is good but I'd like to see her promoting fashion, decor or travel more than jams. But who doesn't love jam?

I disagree. Many actors have reinvented themselves on screen.

There’s also the reality that her position doesn’t matter. She wasn’t in an official capacity kissing babies and shaking hands on behalf of Harry’s family for enough time for that to solidify any impression of her. She’s not Anne. She’s not Diana 2. She didn’t rate much nor for very long, strange logo notwithstanding.

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Anonymous wrote:I have to think that Meghan knows she was extremely mediocre at acting and that is why she has not returned to it.

Suits is having a new life on Netflix and there is undoubtably renewed interest in her as an actor. Whether she is considered a great actor by the Suits fans is irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen, Prince Philip and the Queen Mother are all rolling in their graves.

Why? The Queen sold gin. Charles had cookies and a guest house in Romania. The Queen and Prince Phillip gave out Royal Warrants. The QM may have done this too. If Peter’s milk commercials, Zara’s CBD ventures, and her husband’s podcasts and reality show participation, and the Buckingham Palace Gift Shop didn’t set off any rolling, this business venture probably won’t either.

The difference is the Queen and Charles did that stuff for charity. Megan is hawking stuff to line her own pockets

Just curious. What kind of job will you allow Megan to have to make money for her family? Maybe you should share what kind of jobs you would allow her to have without criticizing her.

The Queen said Megan could keep her acting jobs. Megan no longer wanted to act.

Ah, I see. So if Meghan announced she was starring in a new television show, you would be totally fine with that and not complain about how she is embarrassing the royal family and trading on her title to hack her way back into acting, and wouldn't rip apart whatever the show was as unbecoming of someone who married a royal, etc.? You'd be like "okay that is fine, it is after all her chosen profession and she'd been doing it for a long time when she met Harry."

Somehow I don't think so.

I am not the biggest Meghan Markle fan but it's so obvious that some of you will hate her no matter what she does and won't be happy unless Harry divorces her, publicly states he made a mistake in marrying her, and then absconds with he children back to England to grovel to his family to take him back. It is really weird.

You're wrong. Many people would love to see her acting again.

Surely she could finance her own project then.

If Reese Witherspoon can, why not? I truly think Meghan is missing out by not returning to tv drama. Perhaps she has a knack for comedy, too. She would not be the first woman to return to the work she left to marry and start a family. People would respect her for that.

Well she doesn’t have the money and clout like Reese, but no reason she can try anyway.

How did Reese get hired and stay working since she’s older than Meghan and obviously she has all the sort of injuries that come with age that prevented Mike Tindall from sticking with rugby?

Dp
I like MM more than most but I don't think it would be easy to see past her position and accept her as a character in an acting role. I'm sorry to say, that ship may have sailed. Lifestyle branding is good but I'd like to see her promoting fashion, decor or travel more than jams. But who doesn't love jam?

I disagree. Many actors have reinvented themselves on screen.

There’s also the reality that her position doesn’t matter. She wasn’t in an official capacity kissing babies and shaking hands on behalf of Harry’s family for enough time for that to solidify any impression of her. She’s not Anne. She’s not Diana 2. She didn’t rate much nor for very long, strange logo notwithstanding.

Good point. The more exposure she has through Suits reruns, the less importance her brief stint as a working royal becomes.