SWW - when do notices go out about interviews?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't the cancellation of the test supposed to be just for the pandemic?

Mmhmm. Well, that was certainly the justification given at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Almost right, except that not all kids that interviewed got put on the WL. At least in 2021, when my kid was applying that was true. More like 500 kids interviewed that year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Almost right, except that not all kids that interviewed got put on the WL. At least in 2021, when my kid was applying that was true. More like 500 kids interviewed that year.

How could they leave someone off the waitlist after they were interviewed? Why would they do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Almost right, except that not all kids that interviewed got put on the WL. At least in 2021, when my kid was applying that was true. More like 500 kids interviewed that year.

A kid could interview but rank another school higher and match with that school. In that case the interviewee would not show as either a match or a waitlist. So 2021 might be more like 143 matches + 270 on the waitlist + 87 that matched with higher-ranked schools = 500 interviews.

[Anonymous]

I think this article is what a PP was referring to. I'd like to see a breakdown of interviewed and accepted students filtered by Middle School.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

2021 math is off. 143 + 270 = 413 & 238/413=57.6%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Almost right, except that not all kids that interviewed got put on the WL. At least in 2021, when my kid was applying that was true. More like 500 kids interviewed that year.

How could they leave someone off the waitlist after they were interviewed? Why would they do that?

With the lottery rules, I think any student who ranked another school ahead of SWW and matched would not have been on the waitlist. Not sure if any who had decided to attend privates could have removed themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the data it looks like more than 50% of applicants are accepted

It sounds like you're looking at the myschoolsdc profile and assuming that the number of lottery "matches" + length of the waitlist = total applications, but that is incorrect. Most of the 1500+ students who apply each year do not get an interview and are not placed on the waitlist at all. The waitlist is made up of the students who were interviewed but did not get an offer on lottery day.

But it's true that more than 50% of students who are interviewed typically get an offer by Sept. 1. Here's that data:

2023: 190 lottery matches + 150 on waitlist = 340 total interviews. 233 offers extended (68.5%)
2022: 170 lottery matches + 211 on waitlist = 381 total interviews. 239 offers extended (62.7%)
2021: 143 lottery matches + 270 on waitlist = 313 total interviews. 238 offers extended (76.0%)

You can find more results here: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

Almost right, except that not all kids that interviewed got put on the WL. At least in 2021, when my kid was applying that was true. More like 500 kids interviewed that year.

How could they leave someone off the waitlist after they were interviewed? Why would they do that?

With the lottery rules, I think any student who ranked another school ahead of SWW and matched would not have been on the waitlist. Not sure if any who had decided to attend privates could have removed themselves.

I am pretty sure you can “remove yourself” by not showing up for the interview. Since you apply for Walls before private school results come out but interview after, some families effectively use that mechanism to opt out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this article is what a PP was referring to. I'd like to see a breakdown of interviewed and accepted students filtered by Middle School.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html

It was!

That seems like you could potentially FOIA that. There are at least records that exist with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this article is what a PP was referring to. I'd like to see a breakdown of interviewed and accepted students filtered by Middle School.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html

It was!

That seems like you could potentially FOIA that. There are at least records that exist with it.

WaPost FOIA’ed that for the story.

Time for a follow up.

[Anonymous]

When I looked at Student Enrollment Pathways by Public School, SY21-22 to SY22-23 https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846

and I remember looking at related spreadsheet data, source I can't remember...

my takeaway was for SWW, half of the freshman class (like 77 students) was roughly 1/3 Deal students, 1/3 Hardy students and 1/3 "not in audit" which I feel comfortable guessing is "private schools (and transfers into DCPS not from any DCPS or PCS schools)" and then the other half (like 75 was made up of a couple dozen n<10 DCPS and PCS schools.

Meaning that for all but two schools, there are probably onesie-twosie admissions to SWW as a very normal pattern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I looked at Student Enrollment Pathways by Public School, SY21-22 to SY22-23 https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846

and I remember looking at related spreadsheet data, source I can't remember...

my takeaway was for SWW, half of the freshman class (like 77 students) was roughly 1/3 Deal students, 1/3 Hardy students and 1/3 "not in audit" which I feel comfortable guessing is "private schools (and transfers into DCPS not from any DCPS or PCS schools)" and then the other half (like 75 was made up of a couple dozen n<10 DCPS and PCS schools.

Meaning that for all but two schools, there are probably onesie-twosie admissions to SWW as a very normal pattern.

Stuart-Hobson's principal reports SWW attendee #s in the presentations he gives at feeder ESes. IIRC it was like 6, 9, 7 for the last 3 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I looked at Student Enrollment Pathways by Public School, SY21-22 to SY22-23 https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846

and I remember looking at related spreadsheet data, source I can't remember...

my takeaway was for SWW, half of the freshman class (like 77 students) was roughly 1/3 Deal students, 1/3 Hardy students and 1/3 "not in audit" which I feel comfortable guessing is "private schools (and transfers into DCPS not from any DCPS or PCS schools)" and then the other half (like 75 was made up of a couple dozen n<10 DCPS and PCS schools.

Meaning that for all but two schools, there are probably onesie-twosie admissions to SWW as a very normal pattern.

Thank you! And you can download the spreadsheet at the bottom of the page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I looked at Student Enrollment Pathways by Public School, SY21-22 to SY22-23 https://edscape.dc.gov/node/1640846

and I remember looking at related spreadsheet data, source I can't remember...

my takeaway was for SWW, half of the freshman class (like 77 students) was roughly 1/3 Deal students, 1/3 Hardy students and 1/3 "not in audit" which I feel comfortable guessing is "private schools (and transfers into DCPS not from any DCPS or PCS schools)" and then the other half (like 75 was made up of a couple dozen n<10 DCPS and PCS schools.

Meaning that for all but two schools, there are probably onesie-twosie admissions to SWW as a very normal pattern.

Except zero for middle schools from Wards 7 and 8.

So, instead of increasing diversity, scrapping the admissions exam just made admission more of a lottery for the usual schools.