Special Counsel Report on Classified Documents

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Democrats are behind this.

They want Biden out and this report was the first step.

There have been many Dem pundits telling Biden to throw in the towel. It’s too late for that though as the primaries have already kicked off. The Convention though will definitely nominate someone else.


You don’t understand how delegates are selected. When Biden wins a state’s primary, the delegates are Biden supporters chosen by other Biden supporters and are pledged to vote for Biden at the convention.


What happens if Biden croaks?


The pledged delegates would be released from their pledge and can vote for whomever they choose, same as when a candidate withdraws after winning some pledged delegates.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


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They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


Exactly. What the PP does not understand is that this report is not a pleading. The Rules of Evidence do not apply. He was positing reasons for not bringing the case, and the fact that Biden’s cognitive issues would evoke sympathy from a jury is certainly one of them. The Gaslighters on this thread are so tiresome. Everyone can see with their eyes that he is a man of diminished capacity.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


DP. "Smeared Biden"? Hur told the truth - what did you expect? Also, you should be grateful. Biden’s mental frailty is one reason Hur offered for not presenting Biden’s document-mishandling as a criminal offense before a jury. Look, decline is part of the human condition, and it’s not Biden’s fault. But what IS his fault is insisting that he can capably serve another four years as president. If you were at all honest, you would admit this truth.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


Exactly. What the PP does not understand is that this report is not a pleading. The Rules of Evidence do not apply. He was positing reasons for not bringing the case, and the fact that Biden’s cognitive issues would evoke sympathy from a jury is certainly one of them. The Gaslighters on this thread are so tiresome. Everyone can see with their eyes that he is a man of diminished capacity.


+100
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Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


You’re pathetic. This came from Biden’s DOJ. The 25th Amendment needs to be invoked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


Plus one.

I am sure Trump instructed GOP heavy hitters to strong arm him behind the scenes …
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


DP. "Smeared Biden"? Hur told the truth - what did you expect? Also, you should be grateful. Biden’s mental frailty is one reason Hur offered for not presenting Biden’s document-mishandling as a criminal offense before a jury. Look, decline is part of the human condition, and it’s not Biden’s fault. But what IS his fault is insisting that he can capably serve another four years as president. If you were at all honest, you would admit this truth.


Bullshit. If it isn’t in the report it isn’t relevant. His presentation was all about his feelings which are not evidence or legal argument. He didn’t put any of that bullshit in the report because he knows it is way out of bounds. It was a wholly unprofessional performance. He should not say anything to the press that he did not say in the report. It’s disgraceful conduct.
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Well said Heather Cox Richardson …

Yesterday, Special Counsel Robert Hur, appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland in January 2023 to investigate President Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents before he was president, released his report. It begins: “We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter. We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president.” The Department of Justice closed a similar case against former Vice President Mike Pence on June 1, 2023, days before Pence announced his presidential bid, with a brief, one-page letter.

But in Biden’s case, what followed the announcement that he had not broken a law was more than 300 pages of commentary, including assertions that Biden was old, infirm, and losing his marbles and even that “[h]e did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died” (p. 208).

As television host and former Republican representative from Florida Joe Scarborough put it: “He couldn’t indict Biden legally so he tried to indict Biden politically.”

Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and their teams came out swinging against what amounted to a partisan hit job by a Republican special counsel. The president’s lawyers noted that it is not Department of Justice practice and protocol to criticize someone who is not going to be charged, and tore apart Hur’s nine references to Biden’s memory in contrast to his willingness to “accept…other witnesses’ memory loss as completely understandable given the passage of time.”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


You’re pathetic. This came from Biden’s DOJ. The 25th Amendment needs to be invoked.


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Merrick Garland, darling of the left, *assigned* this to Hur. Democrats just can't bear to hear the truth.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


You’re pathetic. This came from Biden’s DOJ. The 25th Amendment needs to be invoked.


+1
Merrick Garland, darling of the left, *assigned* this to Hur. Democrats just can't bear to hear the truth.


MG is a registered Republican
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


You’re pathetic. This came from Biden’s DOJ. The 25th Amendment needs to be invoked.


No it didn’t. It came from a disappointed partisan special counsel who did not find a legitimate case so he smeared the person he had hoped to charge. The report exonerated Biden. Hur was not speaking for DOJ or for the report.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well said Heather Cox Richardson …

Yesterday, Special Counsel Robert Hur, appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland in January 2023 to investigate President Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents before he was president, released his report. It begins: “We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter. We would reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president.” The Department of Justice closed a similar case against former Vice President Mike Pence on June 1, 2023, days before Pence announced his presidential bid, with a brief, one-page letter.

But in Biden’s case, what followed the announcement that he had not broken a law was more than 300 pages of commentary, including assertions that Biden was old, infirm, and losing his marbles and even that “[h]e did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died” (p. 208).

As television host and former Republican representative from Florida Joe Scarborough put it: “He couldn’t indict Biden legally so he tried to indict Biden politically.”

Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and their teams came out swinging against what amounted to a partisan hit job by a Republican special counsel. The president’s lawyers noted that it is not Department of Justice practice and protocol to criticize someone who is not going to be charged, and tore apart Hur’s nine references to Biden’s memory in contrast to his willingness to “accept…other witnesses’ memory loss as completely understandable given the passage of time.”



Trump cult followers don’t care about rule of law, proper legal behavior, respecting precedent or basic human decency.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s wild is that the conjecture in the report about Biden’s memory and mental faculties would never hold up in a court of law and likely be stricken from the record if the Hur made the same statement in open court. Hur is not a trained medical professional, no doctor was observing the interview on behalf of DoJ. To try to make some sort of diagnosis of the President is wildly unprofessional and way below an elite lawyer who is a partner at Gibson Dunn and went to Stanford Law.

The fact that this made it in the report issued by DoJ is insane. That’s how you know Hur is a nakedly Republican political operative.


Hur made no diagnosis.
He stated what he observed. And, he confirmed what we have all seen for 3 years now.
And, it has only gotten worse. And, it will continue to get worse. His issues will NOT improve.
Those of you who cannot admit that are divorced from reality.


It was unprofessional for Hur to throw out non-germane opinions that are not in the report. And he did not include those gossipy insults in the report because that would have been outrageously unprofessional. Hur disgraced himself.


+1


They were quite germane given that was his reasoning for not charging him.


Bullshit. The report gave the reasons. Hur just smeared Biden so he won’t get kicked out of the Republican patronage network.


You’re pathetic. This came from Biden’s DOJ. The 25th Amendment needs to be invoked.


No it didn’t. It came from a disappointed partisan special counsel who did not find a legitimate case so he smeared the person he had hoped to charge. The report exonerated Biden. Hur was not speaking for DOJ or for the report.



Plus one
Anonymous
For all you people calling Hur a political operative, is it your contention that Biden has no cognitive decline?
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