Harvard President resigns

[Anonymous]

OK, I have some dumb questions:
1. Did anyone at Harvard ever say that Jews should be killed?
2. Does intifada mean genocide?
3. Do university presidents need to be top scholars? IOW, is academic success be the most important quality in a university president?

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Anonymous wrote:But, wait, there's more! Turns out "At least 15 passages from her 2010 MIT doctoral dissertation were lifted without any citation from Wikipedia entries."

She is so lazy she copied entire passages word-for-word from Wikipedia! She not only copied without any attribution from Wikipedia but also from other websites, a textbook and academic paper. See for yourself.

https://www.businessinsider.com/neri-oxman-plagiarize-wikipedia-mit-dissertation-2024-1

And when confronted with this information, her husband Bill Ackman promptly engaged in a tit-for-tat by saying he is going to expose plagiarism at yet another institution--MIT! That'll show the world!

"It is unfortunate that my actions to address problems in higher education have led to these attacks on my family. This experience has inspired me to save all news organizations from the trouble of doing plagiarism reviews," he wrote to his 1 million followers. He pledged to conduct a thorough review of MIT president Sally Kornbluth, all MIT faculty, and board members and other officers of the MIT Corporation for evidence of plagiarism, using MIT's plagiarism standards.

"We will share our findings in the public domain as they are completed in the spirit of transparency," he said.

This woman is a grifter through and through.

You got to read the story about how Ackman met her. As soon as his divorce was announced, it was clear that she was meeting with his acquaintances and trying to get them to “recommend” that he goes on a date with her.

Ackman got hustled so badly by this woman:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/fashion/weddings/as-if-by-design-their-connection-was-inevitable.html

That's what you got from that wedding announcement? That somehow she got his friends to "recommend" her? You are truly nutty.
DP

Ackman and ex-wife announce separation in late December 2016:
https://pagesix.com/2016/12/22/billionaire-investor-bill-ackman-and-wife-in-big-money-divorce/

Per the NYTimes article, in January 2017 (less than one month later):

In January 2017, Mr. Ackman received a phone call from Marty Peretz, 80, a former professor at Harvard who has since become a mentor and father figure.

“He told me there was someone he had been wanting to introduce to me for the past five years,” said Mr. Ackman, who has three children from his previous marriage. “He said her name was Neri Oxman, and that she was the most gorgeous, brilliant, artistic, loving and talented person he had ever met.”

Anyone with half a brain can put together the timeline. His professor has been wanting to introduce her to Ackman for the last five years while he was married? WTF?

[Anonymous]

When George W. Bush went to speak at that Bob Jones University (the school that forbade inter racial dating), where were the right wing politicians who are anti racism?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DEI advocates would be well advised to forget about Claudine Gay. Harvard didn't vet her credentials well and let's face it, some hires just don't work out. If progressives make her the poster girl for DEI, then they are making a mistake and will only have themselves to blame when the whole concept becomes discredited.

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I find it beyond appalling that Gay is blaming her resignation on "racism." Seriously?? Biden was caught plagiarizing and last I checked, he's a white man. Anyone can be a plagiarist, including Claudine Gay.

Agreed. Even the wife of the main anti-plagiarism crusader can be a plagiarist as well.

Yes. At least she apologized right away instead of denying the facts and blaming the accusations on "racism".

She apologized because she got caught. She’s deserving of absolutely no credit for her less-than-prompt apology 13 years after the fact. In fact, she deserves less credit because she didn’t lift a finger to suggest her husband temper his tantrum.

[Anonymous]

So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

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Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

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While we're at it, let's examine the academic credentials and background of the interim president of New College in Florida (DeSantis' attempt to present an alternative to "woke" colleges), shall we? Richard Corcoran was installed as interim president of New College by the new board of the college, after the board fired President Patricia Okker, who had only held the position for 19 months. He was paid a base salary of $699,000, which is $400,000 more than Okker made.

Academic background: Corcoran dropped out of University of Florida. He later attended St. Leo College, graduating in 1989, and Regent University [a private Christian university in Virginia Beach, VA founded by Pat Robertson], where he received his Juris Doctor in 1996. While enrolled in college, he served six years in the United States Naval Reserve (1987–1993).

Career:
*lawyer
*former chief of staff to Marco Rubio
*member of the FL House of Representatives
*head of the Florida Education Commission
*registered lobbyist

You can read more about some of his political views and a few scandals associated with him in the link below, but it's clear that he was chosen for his ability to implement DeSantis's priorities--not because he is an academic of note. So if former-president Gay represents DEI politics, this guy represents the opposite of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Corcoran

Ten years ago the idea that you could credibly compare Harvard to New College would have been seen as a joke. Yet here we are. It is remarkable how tainted the Harvard brand is now.

Part of the all the Ivy brands fall has to with how corrupted the US News and World Report rankings have become.

They were once based on merit and objective factors. They were once reliable.

It was ironically DEI which became a “factor” and has now rendered the rankings largely useless.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

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Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

Now that plagiarism checking has been weaponized by Bill Ackman and others, expect more academics to be outed. Ackman has already stated in a recent tweet that the MIT president and the entire MIT faculty are next. (He’s pissed about the attacks on his wife and apparently wants to exact his revenge in this manner).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-05/ackman-wants-plagiarism-checks-on-mit-faculty-after-wife-accused

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, I have some dumb questions:
1. Did anyone at Harvard ever say that Jews should be killed?
2. Does intifada mean genocide?
3. Do university presidents need to be top scholars? IOW, is academic success be the most important quality in a university president?

1. I asked this previously, and got no answer. Were there actually signs that said "Genocide to the Jews"? Maybe Rep. Stefanik was just asking a hypothetical question.

Oth, if there were such signs, the Jewish students have every reason be to afraid for their safety, and the three presidents should have answered "yes of course" that would be harassment or bullying.

2. No idea
3. Obviously not. The selection of the resident is a way of signaling to the world what your college or university is all about. There are many legitimate routes to become a college president, academics is only one of them. But Harvard did choose an academic. If you're going to choose an academic you should get one with better credentials than Claudine Gay had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK, I have some dumb questions:
1. Did anyone at Harvard ever say that Jews should be killed?
2. Does intifada mean genocide?
3. Do university presidents need to be top scholars? IOW, is academic success be the most important quality in a university president?

1. I asked this previously, and got no answer. Were there actually signs that said "Genocide to the Jews"? Maybe Rep. Stefanik was just asking a hypothetical question.

Oth, if there were such signs, the Jewish students have every reason be to afraid for their safety, and the three presidents should have answered "yes of course" that would be harassment or bullying.

2. No idea
3. Obviously not. The selection of the resident is a way of signaling to the world what your college or university is all about. There are many legitimate routes to become a college president, academics is only one of them. But Harvard did choose an academic. If you're going to choose an academic you should get one with better credentials than Claudine Gay had.

* president

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

Now that plagiarism checking has been weaponized by Bill Ackman and others, expect more academics to be outed. Ackman has already stated in a recent tweet that the MIT president and the entire MIT faculty are next. (He’s pissed about the attacks on his wife and apparently wants to exact his revenge in this manner).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-05/ackman-wants-plagiarism-checks-on-mit-faculty-after-wife-accused

I actually think it’s probably a good thing to figure out just how many of these academics cheated their way into their jobs. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I’m genuinely shocked at how widespread this seems to be. I had always thought of academia as being very strictly against cheating, given what they do to students who cheat. But we’ve now had two presidents (!!) of two major schools (Harvard and Stanford!) resign for plagiarism and data falsification. Are all academics cheating? How widespread is this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

Now that plagiarism checking has been weaponized by Bill Ackman and others, expect more academics to be outed. Ackman has already stated in a recent tweet that the MIT president and the entire MIT faculty are next. (He’s pissed about the attacks on his wife and apparently wants to exact his revenge in this manner).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-05/ackman-wants-plagiarism-checks-on-mit-faculty-after-wife-accused

I actually think it’s probably a good thing to figure out just how many of these academics cheated their way into their jobs. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I’m genuinely shocked at how widespread this seems to be. I had always thought of academia as being very strictly against cheating, given what they do to students who cheat. But we’ve now had two presidents (!!) of two major schools (Harvard and Stanford!) resign for plagiarism and data falsification. Are all academics cheating? How widespread is this?

How many DEI hires are there? There’s your answer. Not cheating, necessarily, but definitely lower academic standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

Now that plagiarism checking has been weaponized by Bill Ackman and others, expect more academics to be outed. Ackman has already stated in a recent tweet that the MIT president and the entire MIT faculty are next. (He’s pissed about the attacks on his wife and apparently wants to exact his revenge in this manner).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-05/ackman-wants-plagiarism-checks-on-mit-faculty-after-wife-accused

I actually think it’s probably a good thing to figure out just how many of these academics cheated their way into their jobs. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I’m genuinely shocked at how widespread this seems to be. I had always thought of academia as being very strictly against cheating, given what they do to students who cheat. But we’ve now had two presidents (!!) of two major schools (Harvard and Stanford!) resign for plagiarism and data falsification. Are all academics cheating? How widespread is this?

Plagiarism is hard to catch unless it is egregious and blatant. You have to really look for it. The academic folk who rise to the top administratively tend to have good political and schmoozimg skills and/or they are from wealthy and connected families. They are rarely the top scientists or scholars

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Anonymous wrote:So are all these academics at the top of their game just rank cheaters? I’m feeling sort of stupid for not going on for a PhD now, which I didn’t do because I was wary of the amount of work involved. It would have been a lot easier if I’d realized I just had to copy other people’s work.

Not unless you're from a rich family or a favorite of the university administration. A regular PhD candidate getting caught plagiarizing is kicked out of school and bad mouthed during reference checks for eternity.

Right but it looks like a lot of them aren’t caught, and the cheating seems to be endemic. I’m now wondering how many of these folks who are (for instance) well-known academic authors and speakers are basically just cheating grifters. The percentage hit of senior academics who cheated appears to be quite high.

Now that plagiarism checking has been weaponized by Bill Ackman and others, expect more academics to be outed. Ackman has already stated in a recent tweet that the MIT president and the entire MIT faculty are next. (He’s pissed about the attacks on his wife and apparently wants to exact his revenge in this manner).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-05/ackman-wants-plagiarism-checks-on-mit-faculty-after-wife-accused

I actually think it’s probably a good thing to figure out just how many of these academics cheated their way into their jobs. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I’m genuinely shocked at how widespread this seems to be. I had always thought of academia as being very strictly against cheating, given what they do to students who cheat. But we’ve now had two presidents (!!) of two major schools (Harvard and Stanford!) resign for plagiarism and data falsification. Are all academics cheating? How widespread is this?

How many DEI hires are there? There’s your answer. Not cheating, necessarily, but definitely lower academic standards.

I’m the PP and I care a lot more about the cheaters than I do about DEI. All these data falsifiers and plagiarizers need to be out of academia. It’s ridiculous that cheaters are given such leeway when they are the professors themselves but they destroy student lives for far less.