Barbie trailer

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

This is just not accurate. Many heavily marketed movies don’t meet expectations. This movie made nearly $350 million worldwide in the first weekend it was out. That is just staggering. It far exceeded the modeled box office numbers.

Like which ones?

Barbie's marketing is truly outstanding: https://www.vox.com/2023/7/21/23801727/barbie-movie-marketing-budget-pr-hype-mattel

Time agrees with me https://time.com/6292203/barbie-box-office-women-movies/

“ It’s safe to attribute some of Barbie’s anticipated success to an onslaught of marketing from Mattel and Warner Bros.”

Some, for sure. Also, it kind of beat the box office predictions in an article. Just saying.

It is really interesting how women like to heap scorn on hugely successful projects that are imagined and brought to fruition by other women.

Oh for heavens sake. What a ridiculous martyr complex you have.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

This is just not accurate. Many heavily marketed movies don’t meet expectations. This movie made nearly $350 million worldwide in the first weekend it was out. That is just staggering. It far exceeded the modeled box office numbers.

Like which ones?

Barbie's marketing is truly outstanding: https://www.vox.com/2023/7/21/23801727/barbie-movie-marketing-budget-pr-hype-mattel

Time agrees with me https://time.com/6292203/barbie-box-office-women-movies/

“ It’s safe to attribute some of Barbie’s anticipated success to an onslaught of marketing from Mattel and Warner Bros.”

Some, for sure. Also, it kind of beat the box office predictions in an article. Just saying.

It is really interesting how women like to heap scorn on hugely successful projects that are imagined and brought to fruition by other women.

Oh for heavens sake. What a ridiculous martyr complex you have.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

This is just not accurate. Many heavily marketed movies don’t meet expectations. This movie made nearly $350 million worldwide in the first weekend it was out. That is just staggering. It far exceeded the modeled box office numbers.

Like which ones?

Barbie's marketing is truly outstanding: https://www.vox.com/2023/7/21/23801727/barbie-movie-marketing-budget-pr-hype-mattel

Time agrees with me https://time.com/6292203/barbie-box-office-women-movies/

“ It’s safe to attribute some of Barbie’s anticipated success to an onslaught of marketing from Mattel and Warner Bros.”

Some, for sure. Also, it kind of beat the box office predictions in an article. Just saying.

It is really interesting how women like to heap scorn on hugely successful projects that are imagined and brought to fruition by other women.

Oh for heavens sake. What a ridiculous martyr complex you have.

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Oh, the irony

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks fun, planning to see it soon

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

So are we in for an influx of superficial pretentious movies?

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

This is just not accurate. Many heavily marketed movies don’t meet expectations. This movie made nearly $350 million worldwide in the first weekend it was out. That is just staggering. It far exceeded the modeled box office numbers.

Like which ones?

Barbie's marketing is truly outstanding: https://www.vox.com/2023/7/21/23801727/barbie-movie-marketing-budget-pr-hype-mattel

Time agrees with me https://time.com/6292203/barbie-box-office-women-movies/

“ It’s safe to attribute some of Barbie’s anticipated success to an onslaught of marketing from Mattel and Warner Bros.”

Some, for sure. Also, it kind of beat the box office predictions in an article. Just saying.

It is really interesting how women like to heap scorn on hugely successful projects that are imagined and brought to fruition by other women.

Oh for heavens sake. What a ridiculous martyr complex you have.

+1

Oh, the irony

I really hate it when people don’t understand what irony actually is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

This is just not accurate. Many heavily marketed movies don’t meet expectations. This movie made nearly $350 million worldwide in the first weekend it was out. That is just staggering. It far exceeded the modeled box office numbers.

Like which ones?

Barbie's marketing is truly outstanding: https://www.vox.com/2023/7/21/23801727/barbie-movie-marketing-budget-pr-hype-mattel

Time agrees with me https://time.com/6292203/barbie-box-office-women-movies/

“ It’s safe to attribute some of Barbie’s anticipated success to an onslaught of marketing from Mattel and Warner Bros.”

Some, for sure. Also, it kind of beat the box office predictions in an article. Just saying.

It is really interesting how women like to heap scorn on hugely successful projects that are imagined and brought to fruition by other women.

Womanhood is not unified in anyway other than the fact we are women. There have been terrible people in the world who are women, I am glad they were not successful. "Barbie" was just a movie. It is not culturally, socially, or historically significant in anyway. There isn't anything important about it. Nothing. Movie studios are in the business of making money. Barbie was a money making venture, that for some reason some found to be entertaining.

Thank you for saying what I was trying to convey. I am glad I am not alone in thinking this.

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[Anonymous]

It was fun. It make me laugh and made me sad. I felt nostalgic and hopeful and scared for my daughter’s future all at once.

I think it is amusing how upset some people got over the movie.

[Anonymous]

Oh the emotional fragile men.....women can't even rule a FAKE toy world without them whining.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the emotional fragile men.....women can't even rule a FAKE toy world without them whining.

It's strange how posters are trying to have it both ways. It's a blockbuster success and a huge cultural statement, and it's just a little movie about a fake toy world. Whatever suits the current attack.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the emotional fragile men.....women can't even rule a FAKE toy world without them whining.

It's strange how posters are trying to have it both ways. It's a blockbuster success and a huge cultural statement, and it's just a little movie about a fake toy world. Whatever suits the current attack.

Indeed. Can also go from "it's just a movie about a fake world" to whining nonstop about how important representation in said movies is and harping nonstop about the cultural significance and importance of role models and messaging.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the emotional fragile men.....women can't even rule a FAKE toy world without them whining.

It's strange how posters are trying to have it both ways. It's a blockbuster success and a huge cultural statement, and it's just a little movie about a fake toy world. Whatever suits the current attack.

Who said little? Barbieland is a fake world. Star Wars universe is also a fake world.

[Anonymous]

What I liked about the movie: Amazing costumes and set design. Ryan Gosling was very good and stole the show in every one of his scenes. Loved the nod to the original inventor. In particular, going back to Gosling but really masterful by Gerwig, liked the subtlety of Gosling’s performance and how he straight-up owned how women are relegated to arm candy roles reflective of the man in most movies.

What I didn’t like: Exhaustingly preachy to the point where I thought Gerwig must think her audience has the intelligence of an eggplant. Condescending tokenism in the Barbies. Relationship between mother and daughter was very stereotypical and shallow and therefore plot development on that point felt contrived. In general both mother and daughter were depicted as what a Millenial thinks Gen Z and Gen X are, and they didn’t ring true. Perhaps controversially, thought the last line was stupid, and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:What I liked about the movie: Amazing costumes and set design. Ryan Gosling was very good and stole the show in every one of his scenes. Loved the nod to the original inventor. In particular, going back to Gosling but really masterful by Gerwig, liked the subtlety of Gosling’s performance and how he straight-up owned how women are relegated to arm candy roles reflective of the man in most movies.

What I didn’t like: Exhaustingly preachy to the point where I thought Gerwig must think her audience has the intelligence of an eggplant. Condescending tokenism in the Barbies. Relationship between mother and daughter was very stereotypical and shallow and therefore plot development on that point felt contrived. In general both mother and daughter were depicted as what a Millenial thinks Gen Z and Gen X are, and they didn’t ring true. Perhaps controversially, thought the last line was stupid, and sad.

+1 this seems to be a common feeling among the moviegoers.

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Anonymous wrote:What I liked about the movie: Amazing costumes and set design. Ryan Gosling was very good and stole the show in every one of his scenes. Loved the nod to the original inventor. In particular, going back to Gosling but really masterful by Gerwig, liked the subtlety of Gosling’s performance and how he straight-up owned how women are relegated to arm candy roles reflective of the man in most movies.

What I didn’t like: Exhaustingly preachy to the point where I thought Gerwig must think her audience has the intelligence of an eggplant. Condescending tokenism in the Barbies. Relationship between mother and daughter was very stereotypical and shallow and therefore plot development on that point felt contrived. In general both mother and daughter were depicted as what a Millenial thinks Gen Z and Gen X are, and they didn’t ring true. Perhaps controversially, thought the last line was stupid, and sad.

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Very well stated. I feel exactly the same way.