Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

Throw in Israel's degenerate and criminal leader Bibi and his warmongering Likud party zealots and we have a deal.

If some of the virulent Zionists in America are thrown in, too, I'll support that deal and gladly contribute to the financing.

What a dream! Peaceful Jews, Christians, Muslims, people of every other faith, agnostics, atheists, and I'm sure I'm missing someone, but all free to live in peace.

Free of Hamas, free of Likud, and free of all those who only know how to obstruct world peace.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

And when the court system rejects your claim over and over again, how would you handle that setback? For the next 75 years, enduring endless abuses by your new landlord with no relief in sight?

I have to admit, I truly enjoy the idea of you squirming to reconcile how you would supposedly take your grievance to the court system "like a civilized adult" whilst defending Israel's prosecuting of its grievance by killing 24,000 (and counting) people with warplanes and bombs. Why didn't they just hire a lawyer?

As for what I think, I absolutely think Israel should not have been created in the Middle East, and certainly not as a "Jewish state". I'm also opposed to Islamic states, for the record. The plan had (and continues to have) no long-term prospects for success. But Israel is there, and both Israel and its neighbors have the burden of making it all work, somehow. As an American who isn't brainwashed by propaganda that U.S. strategic interests will always necessitate supporting Israel with welfare, I don't really care how they work it out, as long as I'm not forced to watch my country fund one side of it so disproportionately. It's like living in a country that supports the favorite over the underdog - who supports that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

And when the court system rejects your claim over and over again, how would you handle that setback? For the next 75 years, enduring endless abuses by your new landlord with no relief in sight?

I have to admit, I truly enjoy the idea of you squirming to reconcile how you would supposedly take your grievance to the court system "like a civilized adult" whilst defending Israel's prosecuting of its grievance by killing 24,000 (and counting) people with warplanes and bombs. Why didn't they just hire a lawyer?

As for what I think, I absolutely think Israel should not have been created in the Middle East, and certainly not as a "Jewish state". I'm also opposed to Islamic states, for the record. The plan had (and continues to have) no long-term prospects for success. But Israel is there, and both Israel and its neighbors have the burden of making it all work, somehow. As an American who isn't brainwashed by propaganda that U.S. strategic interests will always necessitate supporting Israel with welfare, I don't really care how they work it out, as long as I'm not forced to watch my country fund one side of it so disproportionately. It's like living in a country that supports the favorite over the underdog - who supports that?

I'm not the PP but Oct 7 wasn't a "grievance". It was an act of war and Israel responded. Is there something confusing about that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

And when the court system rejects your claim over and over again, how would you handle that setback? For the next 75 years, enduring endless abuses by your new landlord with no relief in sight?

I have to admit, I truly enjoy the idea of you squirming to reconcile how you would supposedly take your grievance to the court system "like a civilized adult" whilst defending Israel's prosecuting of its grievance by killing 24,000 (and counting) people with warplanes and bombs. Why didn't they just hire a lawyer?

As for what I think, I absolutely think Israel should not have been created in the Middle East, and certainly not as a "Jewish state". I'm also opposed to Islamic states, for the record. The plan had (and continues to have) no long-term prospects for success. But Israel is there, and both Israel and its neighbors have the burden of making it all work, somehow. As an American who isn't brainwashed by propaganda that U.S. strategic interests will always necessitate supporting Israel with welfare, I don't really care how they work it out, as long as I'm not forced to watch my country fund one side of it so disproportionately. It's like living in a country that supports the favorite over the underdog - who supports that?

I'm not the PP but Oct 7 wasn't a "grievance". It was an act of war and Israel responded. Is there something confusing about that?

I actually shouldnt say act of war since it was more complicated - asymmetrical terrorism by a standing, elected government? Anyway, Israel responded by declaring war on said government. It wasn't a "grievance" though - it was an effective, bloodthirsty attack.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

I didn’t refer to anyone as anti-Semitic.

But it’s clear that many of the protesters openly support violence, including (astonishingly) violence against the US.

Waving the Houthi flag while they’re firing missiles at US troops?

Celebrating the Hamas attacks (has happened repeatedly at the protests)?

The former is treasonous and the latter grotesque.

So let’s not pretend that the people at these rallies are peace-loving centrists—they’re anti-American radicals accompanied by some useful idiots from the far left.

And I say this as a centrist who deplores much of what the IDF has done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

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No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

I didn’t refer to anyone as anti-Semitic.

But it’s clear that many of the protesters openly support violence, including (astonishingly) violence against the US.

Waving the Houthi flag while they’re firing missiles at US troops?

Celebrating the Hamas attacks (has happened repeatedly at the protests)?

The former is treasonous and the latter grotesque.

So let’s not pretend that the people at these rallies are peace-loving centrists—they’re anti-American radicals accompanied by some useful idiots from the far left.

And I say this as a centrist who deplores much of what the IDF has done.

This is most likely fake news - I did not attend the protests but friends who did said it was peaceful and the news last night had a lot of coverage. I did not see what you are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

And when the court system rejects your claim over and over again, how would you handle that setback? For the next 75 years, enduring endless abuses by your new landlord with no relief in sight?

I have to admit, I truly enjoy the idea of you squirming to reconcile how you would supposedly take your grievance to the court system "like a civilized adult" whilst defending Israel's prosecuting of its grievance by killing 24,000 (and counting) people with warplanes and bombs. Why didn't they just hire a lawyer?

As for what I think, I absolutely think Israel should not have been created in the Middle East, and certainly not as a "Jewish state". I'm also opposed to Islamic states, for the record. The plan had (and continues to have) no long-term prospects for success. But Israel is there, and both Israel and its neighbors have the burden of making it all work, somehow. As an American who isn't brainwashed by propaganda that U.S. strategic interests will always necessitate supporting Israel with welfare, I don't really care how they work it out, as long as I'm not forced to watch my country fund one side of it so disproportionately. It's like living in a country that supports the favorite over the underdog - who supports that?

Another 500 words to say:

1. Israel never should have been created.

2. Palestinian terrorism is justified.

3. Supporting Israel isn’t in US interests (though you can’t articulate why).

Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

.

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

I didn’t refer to anyone as anti-Semitic.

But it’s clear that many of the protesters openly support violence, including (astonishingly) violence against the US.

Waving the Houthi flag while they’re firing missiles at US troops?

Celebrating the Hamas attacks (has happened repeatedly at the protests)?

The former is treasonous and the latter grotesque.

So let’s not pretend that the people at these rallies are peace-loving centrists—they’re anti-American radicals accompanied by some useful idiots from the far left.

And I say this as a centrist who deplores much of what the IDF has done.

This is most likely fake news - I did not attend the protests but friends who did said it was peaceful and the news last night had a lot of coverage. I did not see what you are talking about.

Plus the people I know who attended the protest never usually attend protests. They are just regular people who want the indiscriminate violence to end.

No one i know is defending Hamas …

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And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

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No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

I didn’t refer to anyone as anti-Semitic.

But it’s clear that many of the protesters openly support violence, including (astonishingly) violence against the US.

Waving the Houthi flag while they’re firing missiles at US troops?

Celebrating the Hamas attacks (has happened repeatedly at the protests)?

The former is treasonous and the latter grotesque.

So let’s not pretend that the people at these rallies are peace-loving centrists—they’re anti-American radicals accompanied by some useful idiots from the far left.

And I say this as a centrist who deplores much of what the IDF has done.

This is most likely fake news - I did not attend the protests but friends who did said it was peaceful and the news last night had a lot of coverage. I did not see what you are talking about.

Definitely not fake news—the pro Hamas rhetoric at these protests has been widely documented by reputable media.

And the pro Houthi protest in NYC after the US strike was also reported by MSM.

Your friends are seeing what they want to see.

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And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

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No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Bullcrap.
Some of these protestors are carrying Hamas flags and chanting the same rhetoric as the Hamas terrorists.
And, we have seen more than enough evidence of people actually praising these less-than-human individuals.

DP

My friends who attended the protest are centrist types and were definitely just asking for a ceasefire and more humanity towards the Palestinians.

There were no doubt a minority of more extreme protestors but it was mostly peaceful and most protestors just want to see a ceasefire and humanitarian support for the many Palestinians civilians suffering from terrible injuries/ loss of homes/ loss of family members and starvation. Especially the many children who are suffering so much.

Everyone I know condemns Hamas actions on October 7.

But Israel’s disproportionate response is not only inhumane but making Israel less safe in a hostile region.

Very fine people at the protest, right?

You know the left has lost their minds when they’re parroting Trump’s rhetoric on Charlottesville.

What? I never said they were very fine people - I said they are sensible centrist types and not extremists. They simply Want the indiscriminate response by IDF to stop and for more humanitarian support for the innocent Palestinians. They also condemn Hamas’ actions but don’t think Israel’s scale of response is justified.

It is in no one’s interests to continue down this extreme path. Many Jewish friends in DMV are also horrified by the scale of devastation visited upon Palestinians / all while not approving of Hamas and wanting Israel to survive.

It is bizarre to refer to anyone who disagrees with IDF’s military tactics as anti semitic.

I didn’t refer to anyone as anti-Semitic.

But it’s clear that many of the protesters openly support violence, including (astonishingly) violence against the US.

Waving the Houthi flag while they’re firing missiles at US troops?

Celebrating the Hamas attacks (has happened repeatedly at the protests)?

The former is treasonous and the latter grotesque.

So let’s not pretend that the people at these rallies are peace-loving centrists—they’re anti-American radicals accompanied by some useful idiots from the far left.

And I say this as a centrist who deplores much of what the IDF has done.

This is most likely fake news - I did not attend the protests but friends who did said it was peaceful and the news last night had a lot of coverage. I did not see what you are talking about.

Plus the people I know who attended the protest never usually attend protests. They are just regular people who want the indiscriminate violence to end.

No one i know is defending Hamas …

I don’t doubt your friends’ intentions.

I agree that the Israeli tactics have crossed the line in many respects.

But I also don’t put my head in the sand about the motives of many of the protesters.

I wouldn’t ally with those people under any circumstances.

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And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

The UN did not “give” the Jewish people Israel. God gave the Jewish people Israel, the UN simply voted to recognize Jewish sovereignty over Israel and re-establish the State of Israel following many long years of forced exile as Israel was in the hands of the invader (I.e. those we now call Palestinians).

As an atheist, I'm wondering if God gave land to anyone else?

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And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

So let’s annihilate them, right?

1,000 words to say that you don’t think Israel should exist.

Brevity is your friend.

Strawberries. Hillside. Ramekin.

See, anyone can just spit out incoherent words that don't in any way reflect what came before them.

Nobody said annihilation or suggested it.

Actually, “annihilate” is exactly what the leaders of the Arab armies said in 1948.

You want a citation or you prefer to try again?

Nobody endorsed what was supposedly "said" by the Arab armies in 1948. But for the record, if your citation ends in .il, I'll pass. I prefer actual historical records.

That said, what DID occur was that you were asked how you would respond. Now, why don't you try giving reading comprehension a spin and please answer that question. I'll restate it, directly from the PP that you replied to with that annihilation non-sequitur ...

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning?

I’d hire a lawyer.

I wouldn’t murder them.

You?

But that’s really a distraction from the main point:

You are arguing (1) that Israel shouldn’t have been created, and (2) that the Palestinians were (are?) justified in using violence to oppose that creation.

Right?

And when the court system rejects your claim over and over again, how would you handle that setback? For the next 75 years, enduring endless abuses by your new landlord with no relief in sight?

I have to admit, I truly enjoy the idea of you squirming to reconcile how you would supposedly take your grievance to the court system "like a civilized adult" whilst defending Israel's prosecuting of its grievance by killing 24,000 (and counting) people with warplanes and bombs. Why didn't they just hire a lawyer?

As for what I think, I absolutely think Israel should not have been created in the Middle East, and certainly not as a "Jewish state". I'm also opposed to Islamic states, for the record. The plan had (and continues to have) no long-term prospects for success. But Israel is there, and both Israel and its neighbors have the burden of making it all work, somehow. As an American who isn't brainwashed by propaganda that U.S. strategic interests will always necessitate supporting Israel with welfare, I don't really care how they work it out, as long as I'm not forced to watch my country fund one side of it so disproportionately. It's like living in a country that supports the favorite over the underdog - who supports that?

I'm not the PP but Oct 7 wasn't a "grievance". It was an act of war and Israel responded. Is there something confusing about that?

I actually shouldnt say act of war since it was more complicated - asymmetrical terrorism by a standing, elected government? Anyway, Israel responded by declaring war on said government. It wasn't a "grievance" though - it was an effective, bloodthirsty attack.

I was just another attack in a decades-long conflict. Stop being so sensitive.

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Anonymous wrote:They are sub-human cretins.

And, we have Americans marching in support of these terrorists......

No. The protests are for a ceasefire and for the US to stop funding Israel. The Protests are not in support of Hamas terrorists.

Will Israel save the hostages lives by agreeing to a ceasefire?

Tell us what would happen if Israel agreed to a unilateral ceasefire, please? Because Hamas would continue their efforts to exterminate Jews... which is fine by you. What you really mean is Jews should not be allowed to fight back.

Ceasefire means both sides stop firing.

What happens if the ceasefire is broken by one side or another is part of the conditions of a ceasefire treaty.

Which is why there can not be a ceasefire until every single Hamas supporter is either dead or locked up in Israeli prison.

Because Hamas will never abide by any ceasefire. They will keep killing and raping and destroying the world until they achieve their goal of the death of every Jew in the world.

And the Palestinian experience is that Israel is committed to killing and destroying them. An endless cycle.

All arising from the Palestinians’ idiotic decision to reject UN resolution 181.

Back to 181 again. You condemn the U.N. 24/7 for being unfair, except that one time they conceived of a rigged plan that gave you and the other 31% of Zionist people in the region over 60% of the land already occupied by the indigenous people, with all of the critical water supply and natural resource advantages.

Again, for the 1,000th time, how would you react if someone showed up in your driveway this evening to announce that your property would be transferred to a group of strangers tomorrow morning? But wait, they also have some great news that you should be thrilled to welcome - you get to keep around 40% of the property for yourself! Not the house part, of course, but some good parts by the curb and a little over near the backyard fence area. And it's not like the strangers are getting ALL the good stuff. They have to take that dry patch of grass over there, too. So it's fair and all, don't worry. Just sign this paper.

Good god, you revisionist historians with the 181 tripe.

The UN did not “give” the Jewish people Israel. God gave the Jewish people Israel, the UN simply voted to recognize Jewish sovereignty over Israel and re-establish the State of Israel following many long years of forced exile as Israel was in the hands of the invader (I.e. those we now call Palestinians).

As an atheist, I'm wondering if God gave land to anyone else?

As an atheist you'll find it interesting that "God" in this case was probably just an Egyptian Pharaoh.