Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are posters on DCUM allowed to use language that would be deemed racist, or anti-semitic, if used on other people?

I guess you just ignore the language used to describe Palestinians which is much worst?

I am referring to the language used against Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what some people are failing to realize is that the brutality of the attacks on 10/7 really changed things.

I don't like Netanyahu. I think he's a cynical and deeply corrupt hack. I don't like the settlers in the West Bank. Think they are awful colonists. Don't care for the the ultra-orthodox either. Ignorant, cruel, racist, misogynists who tend to be very parasitic and live off social welfare.

But the Hamas attacks on 10/7 really changed things. It's like 9/11. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Was that a great idea? No.

But Hamas changed things with those attacks. The invaded, were absolutely barbaric, and started a war. And wars are unpredictable and cruel. Just take a look at Ukraine. For Russia, it was supposed to be a 3 day intervention. 2 years later and more than 300,000 Russian casualties. Things don't go to plan when you start a war. As the US learned when they invaded Iraq. As Russians leaned when they invaded Ukraine. As Palestinians in Gaza are learning when they invaded Israel.

It was an incredibly stupid decision to invade Israel and do this.

So, in summary, YOU and your ilk were OK with Israel killing THOUSANDS of Palestinians BEFORE 10/7 but not OK with the a little hit and run from Hamas in retaliation for decades of Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Wow. 1200 civilians murdered, tortured, raped, butchered is just "a little hit and run?"

Also, for historic context you forget things like what precipitated the Israeli retaliations, like in 2014 when Hamas kidnapped some innocent Israeli kids and murdered them. You also like to pretend that all Palestinians who died were entirely women and children when in the conflicts of the last 20 years the largest percentage were known to be Hamas, Qassam, PIJ, PFLP, PRC, Al-Aqsa, et cetera.

Why are you so bent out of shape about 1,200 dead Israelis but not about 10,000 dead Palestinian children? Let me guess, Palestinian lives don't matter to you.

How do I trust your claims about the numbers of dead Palestinian children? We know from Al-Shifa and other incidents that Hamas health ministry has been caught grossly exaggerating death counts, to the point of quadrupling the actual numbers. We know that at least one credible source has estimated around 7,000 of the Palestinian dead as being Hamas fighters, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade et cetera. We know that Palestinians died because they could not get medicine and that Hamas fighters took it for themselves. We know that Palestinians died because Hamas used civilians as cover for launching attacks. We know many many cases where Palestinians died because Hamas put them at risk. Hamas accounts for a huge number of the Palestinian dead, easily more than the number of Israelis they slaughtered on 10/7. And, we also know that this current escalation would never have happened if Hamas hadn't launched its bloody massacre on 10/7. Not only do you not care about Israeli women and children being slaughtered on 10/7, you don't care about any of the Palestinian deaths that Hamas is directly responsible for.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are not the sharpest knives in the drawer......

Are they chanting Jihad in Washington Dc, a few miles from the post 9/11 Pentagon and waving a terrorist flag? What the actual F?

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Expressing support for a ceasefire and more humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza is hardly calling for Jihad. It also does not make them anti semites ….

Absolutely everyone is for more humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The problem is that Hamas keeps stealing it.

That's just not true. There are quite a few members of the Israeli Government against any, let alone more, aid for Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank. Those Israeli Government members seem to think that if they just starve the Palestinians then the Palestinians will conveniently ethnically cleanse themselves.

That's false. Aid convoys have been going in. But they have been having other issues, like finding truck drivers willing to risk their lives. Hamas has opened fire around the trucks when people complained about them stealing the aid.

Post your source for this claim.

Are you for real? There have been dozens and dozens of documented instances of Hamas shooting people and threatening people and taking the aid for themselves going back to December and earlier. Here's yet another recent instance: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-781286

Stop gaslighting. Stop defending Hamas. Stop deflecting. Stop pretending none of this is real. Stop pretending there is one and only one bad guy here and that it's the IDF.

This is a lie spread by Israel that Hamas is stealing aid. Both the UN and the US say this is not happening. So do you believe Israel or the US?

From a Wapo article today:

Israeli officials have repeatedly charged that any lack of aid is due to Hamas looting inside Gaza, something that both the United Nations and the United States deny. Any looting that has taken place, a U.N. spokesman said in recent days, has been by “desperate” Gazan civilians who don’t know when or if the next delivery will come.

A senior U.S. official also sharply disputed Israel’s characterization, saying that “the Israeli government has not brought to the attention of the U.S. government … any specific evidence of Hamas theft or diversion of assistance provided via the U.N. and its agencies. Full stop.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/14/israel-gaza-low-intensity/

Did you forget when Hamas fighters pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment in the early days of the war? Maybe you missed that.

Again with this Israeli lie - it didn't happen.

All of these so-called "Israeli lies" have been repeatedly documented.

Documented by IDF but unverified - just like 40 beheaded babies.

There's video, photographic evidence and other things to prove many of the Israeli statements. Whereas Hamas has provided virtually nothing to actually debunk any of it, just empty blanket statements of "it's a lie."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think what some people are failing to realize is that the brutality of the attacks on 10/7 really changed things.

I don't like Netanyahu. I think he's a cynical and deeply corrupt hack. I don't like the settlers in the West Bank. Think they are awful colonists. Don't care for the the ultra-orthodox either. Ignorant, cruel, racist, misogynists who tend to be very parasitic and live off social welfare.

But the Hamas attacks on 10/7 really changed things. It's like 9/11. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Was that a great idea? No.

But Hamas changed things with those attacks. The invaded, were absolutely barbaric, and started a war. And wars are unpredictable and cruel. Just take a look at Ukraine. For Russia, it was supposed to be a 3 day intervention. 2 years later and more than 300,000 Russian casualties. Things don't go to plan when you start a war. As the US learned when they invaded Iraq. As Russians leaned when they invaded Ukraine. As Palestinians in Gaza are learning when they invaded Israel.

It was an incredibly stupid decision to invade Israel and do this.

So, in summary, YOU and your ilk were OK with Israel killing THOUSANDS of Palestinians BEFORE 10/7 but not OK with the a little hit and run from Hamas in retaliation for decades of Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Wow. 1200 civilians murdered, tortured, raped, butchered is just "a little hit and run?"

Also, for historic context you forget things like what precipitated the Israeli retaliations, like in 2014 when Hamas kidnapped some innocent Israeli kids and murdered them. You also like to pretend that all Palestinians who died were entirely women and children when in the conflicts of the last 20 years the largest percentage were known to be Hamas, Qassam, PIJ, PFLP, PRC, Al-Aqsa, et cetera.

Why are you so bent out of shape about 1,200 dead Israelis but not about 10,000 dead Palestinian children? Let me guess, Palestinian lives don't matter to you.

Israeli lives clearly don't matter to you. So what's your point?

All lives matter - not just Israelis. While Israelis, and in particular Jews, think 10/7 was a watershed moment in the conflict, for Palestinians who've had to deal with decades of Israel's oppression, it was just another day in the conflict.

[Anonymous]

Shalom for both sides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what some people are failing to realize is that the brutality of the attacks on 10/7 really changed things.

I don't like Netanyahu. I think he's a cynical and deeply corrupt hack. I don't like the settlers in the West Bank. Think they are awful colonists. Don't care for the the ultra-orthodox either. Ignorant, cruel, racist, misogynists who tend to be very parasitic and live off social welfare.

But the Hamas attacks on 10/7 really changed things. It's like 9/11. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Was that a great idea? No.

But Hamas changed things with those attacks. The invaded, were absolutely barbaric, and started a war. And wars are unpredictable and cruel. Just take a look at Ukraine. For Russia, it was supposed to be a 3 day intervention. 2 years later and more than 300,000 Russian casualties. Things don't go to plan when you start a war. As the US learned when they invaded Iraq. As Russians leaned when they invaded Ukraine. As Palestinians in Gaza are learning when they invaded Israel.

It was an incredibly stupid decision to invade Israel and do this.

So, in summary, YOU and your ilk were OK with Israel killing THOUSANDS of Palestinians BEFORE 10/7 but not OK with the a little hit and run from Hamas in retaliation for decades of Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Wow. 1200 civilians murdered, tortured, raped, butchered is just "a little hit and run?"

Also, for historic context you forget things like what precipitated the Israeli retaliations, like in 2014 when Hamas kidnapped some innocent Israeli kids and murdered them. You also like to pretend that all Palestinians who died were entirely women and children when in the conflicts of the last 20 years the largest percentage were known to be Hamas, Qassam, PIJ, PFLP, PRC, Al-Aqsa, et cetera.

Why are you so bent out of shape about 1,200 dead Israelis but not about 10,000 dead Palestinian children? Let me guess, Palestinian lives don't matter to you.

How do I trust your claims about the numbers of dead Palestinian children? We know from Al-Shifa and other incidents that Hamas health ministry has been caught grossly exaggerating death counts, to the point of quadrupling the actual numbers. We know that at least one credible source has estimated around 7,000 of the Palestinian dead as being Hamas fighters, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade et cetera. We know that Palestinians died because they could not get medicine and that Hamas fighters took it for themselves. We know that Palestinians died because Hamas used civilians as cover for launching attacks. We know many many cases where Palestinians died because Hamas put them at risk. Hamas accounts for a huge number of the Palestinian dead, easily more than the number of Israelis they slaughtered on 10/7. And, we also know that this current escalation would never have happened if Hamas hadn't launched its bloody massacre on 10/7. Not only do you not care about Israeli women and children being slaughtered on 10/7, you don't care about any of the Palestinian deaths that Hamas is directly responsible for.

You only know it because IDF or Bibi said so. Not everyone worships at this particular altar.

[Anonymous]

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Joe Biden has reportedly not spoken to Benjamin Netanyahu in three weeks amid a growing split between the pair over the Israeli prime minister’s handling of the war in Gaza.

The White House is dismayed by Mr Netanyahu’s lack of vision for ending the conflict and lack of support for future Palestinian governance of the enclave, Israel’s two leading newspapers reported on Monday.

The Israeli leader has ignored repeated US calls to discuss a possible post-war settlement, including bringing in the Palestinian Authority (PA) to play a role in Gaza once it has been rid of Hamas – a move that would be unpopular domestically.

Amid the rising tension, Mr Netanyahu and Mr Biden have not held direct talks since a Dec 23 phone call that the US president reportedly ended abruptly after Mr Netanyahu refused to release withheld tax revenues to the PA, according to the Israeli media reports.

“This conversation is over,” Mr Biden was said to have told the Israeli leader before hanging up.

… But Israeli officials have largely remained unmoved by Washington’s increasing irritation, and have openly refused certain requests, including unfreezing the tax revenues that it collects for the PA but has until now held back.

…. Bezalel Smotrich, Israel’s hard-right finance minister, who was behind the initial block on the transfer of the funds, doubled down on his decision following last week’s visit by Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, to Tel Aviv.

“We will continue to fight with all of our might to destroy Hamas, and we will not transfer a shekel to the PA that will go to the families of Nazis in Gaza,” he said.

So Netanyahu is not taking Biden’s calls? I guess Biden will just sit there and wait for Netanyahu to him? Maybe when the IDF runs out of bombs again? This relationship needs a hard reset. Who the f does Israel think it is?

Kinda shoots a whole in the whole "Genocide Joe" claim, as if somehow Israel has ever been a US puppet doing our bidding. That's never been the case.

Yes Biden is helpless and can do nothing to stop the Israelis.
Let’s see what could Biden do? No veto at the UN, cut off all aid to Israel, stop giving Israel arms, make Israel remove every settlement, force a one or two state solution on Israel, enforce a blockade of Israel, target Israeli infrastructure, seize Israeli bank accounts in the US, etc, etc. Biden chooses to support Israel’s genocide. Biden is fully responsible for this ….its not really a war just an army killing civilians being fund by the US.

Why should the US stop giving Israel arms when Iran and Russia and others won't stop giving arms to Hamas? Why should the US and other countries stop helping Israel when Lebanon continues to allow Hezbollah aggression against Israel? Why should the US lead the charge to come up with a solution when Iran and Houthi Yemen and other state actors and sponsors of terrorism will not accept any solution that does not result in the complete elimination of Israel? If they don't have to change their ways then why should the US have to?

The posters said Biden was not responsible for Israel’s actions and genocide. As per your post Israel’s existence relies solo on US support. Biden at any time can tell Israel what to do and Israel will have no choice but to do it. Biden chooses not to stop Israel genocide of the Palestinians in Gaza. It is the same as if Biden was pushing the button of the weapon systems.

As for your other statements. All the little terrorist groups that continue to grow and pop up are only able to happen because Israel has refused to address the 7 million Palestinian it has made refugees. Israel continues to give life to all these groups because of its oppression of the Palestinians. It’s not Iran or all the other countries in the region that can stop the underlining cause of this conflict. It is only Israel that can do that.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are not the sharpest knives in the drawer......

Are they chanting Jihad in Washington Dc, a few miles from the post 9/11 Pentagon and waving a terrorist flag? What the actual F?

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Expressing support for a ceasefire and more humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza is hardly calling for Jihad. It also does not make them anti semites ….

Absolutely everyone is for more humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The problem is that Hamas keeps stealing it.

That's just not true. There are quite a few members of the Israeli Government against any, let alone more, aid for Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank. Those Israeli Government members seem to think that if they just starve the Palestinians then the Palestinians will conveniently ethnically cleanse themselves.

That's false. Aid convoys have been going in. But they have been having other issues, like finding truck drivers willing to risk their lives. Hamas has opened fire around the trucks when people complained about them stealing the aid.

Post your source for this claim.

Are you for real? There have been dozens and dozens of documented instances of Hamas shooting people and threatening people and taking the aid for themselves going back to December and earlier. Here's yet another recent instance: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-781286

Stop gaslighting. Stop defending Hamas. Stop deflecting. Stop pretending none of this is real. Stop pretending there is one and only one bad guy here and that it's the IDF.

This is a lie spread by Israel that Hamas is stealing aid. Both the UN and the US say this is not happening. So do you believe Israel or the US?

From a Wapo article today:

Israeli officials have repeatedly charged that any lack of aid is due to Hamas looting inside Gaza, something that both the United Nations and the United States deny. Any looting that has taken place, a U.N. spokesman said in recent days, has been by “desperate” Gazan civilians who don’t know when or if the next delivery will come.

A senior U.S. official also sharply disputed Israel’s characterization, saying that “the Israeli government has not brought to the attention of the U.S. government … any specific evidence of Hamas theft or diversion of assistance provided via the U.N. and its agencies. Full stop.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/14/israel-gaza-low-intensity/

Did you forget when Hamas fighters pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment in the early days of the war? Maybe you missed that.

Again with this Israeli lie - it didn't happen.

All of these so-called "Israeli lies" have been repeatedly documented.

Documented by IDF but unverified - just like 40 beheaded babies.

There's video, photographic evidence and other things to prove many of the Israeli statements. Whereas Hamas has provided virtually nothing to actually debunk any of it, just empty blanket statements of "it's a lie."

Videos like the video of 2017 Mexican cartel the First Lady of Israel tweeted as proof that “khamas cut the pregnant lady open”? Yeah okay.

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Anonymous wrote:These people are not the sharpest knives in the drawer......

Are they chanting Jihad in Washington Dc, a few miles from the post 9/11 Pentagon and waving a terrorist flag? What the actual F?

.

Expressing support for a ceasefire and more humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza is hardly calling for Jihad. It also does not make them anti semites ….

Absolutely everyone is for more humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The problem is that Hamas keeps stealing it.

That's just not true. There are quite a few members of the Israeli Government against any, let alone more, aid for Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank. Those Israeli Government members seem to think that if they just starve the Palestinians then the Palestinians will conveniently ethnically cleanse themselves.

That's false. Aid convoys have been going in. But they have been having other issues, like finding truck drivers willing to risk their lives. Hamas has opened fire around the trucks when people complained about them stealing the aid.

Post your source for this claim.

Are you for real? There have been dozens and dozens of documented instances of Hamas shooting people and threatening people and taking the aid for themselves going back to December and earlier. Here's yet another recent instance: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-781286

Stop gaslighting. Stop defending Hamas. Stop deflecting. Stop pretending none of this is real. Stop pretending there is one and only one bad guy here and that it's the IDF.

This is a lie spread by Israel that Hamas is stealing aid. Both the UN and the US say this is not happening. So do you believe Israel or the US?

From a Wapo article today:

Israeli officials have repeatedly charged that any lack of aid is due to Hamas looting inside Gaza, something that both the United Nations and the United States deny. Any looting that has taken place, a U.N. spokesman said in recent days, has been by “desperate” Gazan civilians who don’t know when or if the next delivery will come.

A senior U.S. official also sharply disputed Israel’s characterization, saying that “the Israeli government has not brought to the attention of the U.S. government … any specific evidence of Hamas theft or diversion of assistance provided via the U.N. and its agencies. Full stop.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/14/israel-gaza-low-intensity/

Did you forget when Hamas fighters pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment in the early days of the war? Maybe you missed that.

Again with this Israeli lie - it didn't happen.

All of these so-called "Israeli lies" have been repeatedly documented.

Documented by IDF but unverified - just like 40 beheaded babies.

There's video, photographic evidence and other things to prove many of the Israeli statements. Whereas Hamas has provided virtually nothing to actually debunk any of it, just empty blanket statements of "it's a lie."

Please post the evidence that Hamas stole aid and, as you say, "pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think what some people are failing to realize is that the brutality of the attacks on 10/7 really changed things.

I don't like Netanyahu. I think he's a cynical and deeply corrupt hack. I don't like the settlers in the West Bank. Think they are awful colonists. Don't care for the the ultra-orthodox either. Ignorant, cruel, racist, misogynists who tend to be very parasitic and live off social welfare.

But the Hamas attacks on 10/7 really changed things. It's like 9/11. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Was that a great idea? No.

But Hamas changed things with those attacks. The invaded, were absolutely barbaric, and started a war. And wars are unpredictable and cruel. Just take a look at Ukraine. For Russia, it was supposed to be a 3 day intervention. 2 years later and more than 300,000 Russian casualties. Things don't go to plan when you start a war. As the US learned when they invaded Iraq. As Russians leaned when they invaded Ukraine. As Palestinians in Gaza are learning when they invaded Israel.

It was an incredibly stupid decision to invade Israel and do this.

So, in summary, YOU and your ilk were OK with Israel killing THOUSANDS of Palestinians BEFORE 10/7 but not OK with the a little hit and run from Hamas in retaliation for decades of Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Wow. 1200 civilians murdered, tortured, raped, butchered is just "a little hit and run?"

Also, for historic context you forget things like what precipitated the Israeli retaliations, like in 2014 when Hamas kidnapped some innocent Israeli kids and murdered them. You also like to pretend that all Palestinians who died were entirely women and children when in the conflicts of the last 20 years the largest percentage were known to be Hamas, Qassam, PIJ, PFLP, PRC, Al-Aqsa, et cetera.

Why are you so bent out of shape about 1,200 dead Israelis but not about 10,000 dead Palestinian children? Let me guess, Palestinian lives don't matter to you.

Israeli lives clearly don't matter to you. So what's your point?

All lives matter - not just Israelis. While Israelis, and in particular Jews, think 10/7 was a watershed moment in the conflict, for Palestinians who've had to deal with decades of Israel's oppression, it was just another day in the conflict.

Palestinian oppression has far too often been precipitated by their own atrocities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is Germany and Poland in this war. They must be aiding Israel . . .

Probably more concerned with a Freezing winter due to less gas/heat due to the Biden Putin war .

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Anonymous wrote:These people are not the sharpest knives in the drawer......

Are they chanting Jihad in Washington Dc, a few miles from the post 9/11 Pentagon and waving a terrorist flag? What the actual F?

.

Expressing support for a ceasefire and more humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza is hardly calling for Jihad. It also does not make them anti semites ….

Absolutely everyone is for more humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The problem is that Hamas keeps stealing it.

That's just not true. There are quite a few members of the Israeli Government against any, let alone more, aid for Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank. Those Israeli Government members seem to think that if they just starve the Palestinians then the Palestinians will conveniently ethnically cleanse themselves.

That's false. Aid convoys have been going in. But they have been having other issues, like finding truck drivers willing to risk their lives. Hamas has opened fire around the trucks when people complained about them stealing the aid.

Post your source for this claim.

Are you for real? There have been dozens and dozens of documented instances of Hamas shooting people and threatening people and taking the aid for themselves going back to December and earlier. Here's yet another recent instance: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-781286

Stop gaslighting. Stop defending Hamas. Stop deflecting. Stop pretending none of this is real. Stop pretending there is one and only one bad guy here and that it's the IDF.

This is a lie spread by Israel that Hamas is stealing aid. Both the UN and the US say this is not happening. So do you believe Israel or the US?

From a Wapo article today:

Israeli officials have repeatedly charged that any lack of aid is due to Hamas looting inside Gaza, something that both the United Nations and the United States deny. Any looting that has taken place, a U.N. spokesman said in recent days, has been by “desperate” Gazan civilians who don’t know when or if the next delivery will come.

A senior U.S. official also sharply disputed Israel’s characterization, saying that “the Israeli government has not brought to the attention of the U.S. government … any specific evidence of Hamas theft or diversion of assistance provided via the U.N. and its agencies. Full stop.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/14/israel-gaza-low-intensity/

Did you forget when Hamas fighters pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment in the early days of the war? Maybe you missed that.

Again with this Israeli lie - it didn't happen.

All of these so-called "Israeli lies" have been repeatedly documented.

Documented by IDF but unverified - just like 40 beheaded babies.

There's video, photographic evidence and other things to prove many of the Israeli statements. Whereas Hamas has provided virtually nothing to actually debunk any of it, just empty blanket statements of "it's a lie."

Please post the evidence that Hamas stole aid and, as you say, "pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment."

There are numerous sources including frustrated Palestinians who have bravely spoken out against Hamas. One example here:

https://nypost.com/2023/12/25/news/hamas-in-control-of-unrwa-aid-group-in-gaza-palestinian-man/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is Germany and Poland in this war. They must be aiding Israel . . .

Probably more concerned with a Freezing winter due to less gas/heat due to the Biden Putin war .

Old news. They are no longer dependent on Putin for heat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think what some people are failing to realize is that the brutality of the attacks on 10/7 really changed things.

I don't like Netanyahu. I think he's a cynical and deeply corrupt hack. I don't like the settlers in the West Bank. Think they are awful colonists. Don't care for the the ultra-orthodox either. Ignorant, cruel, racist, misogynists who tend to be very parasitic and live off social welfare.

But the Hamas attacks on 10/7 really changed things. It's like 9/11. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people died.

Was that a great idea? No.

But Hamas changed things with those attacks. The invaded, were absolutely barbaric, and started a war. And wars are unpredictable and cruel. Just take a look at Ukraine. For Russia, it was supposed to be a 3 day intervention. 2 years later and more than 300,000 Russian casualties. Things don't go to plan when you start a war. As the US learned when they invaded Iraq. As Russians leaned when they invaded Ukraine. As Palestinians in Gaza are learning when they invaded Israel.

It was an incredibly stupid decision to invade Israel and do this.

So, in summary, YOU and your ilk were OK with Israel killing THOUSANDS of Palestinians BEFORE 10/7 but not OK with the a little hit and run from Hamas in retaliation for decades of Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Wow. 1200 civilians murdered, tortured, raped, butchered is just "a little hit and run?"

Also, for historic context you forget things like what precipitated the Israeli retaliations, like in 2014 when Hamas kidnapped some innocent Israeli kids and murdered them. You also like to pretend that all Palestinians who died were entirely women and children when in the conflicts of the last 20 years the largest percentage were known to be Hamas, Qassam, PIJ, PFLP, PRC, Al-Aqsa, et cetera.

Why are you so bent out of shape about 1,200 dead Israelis but not about 10,000 dead Palestinian children? Let me guess, Palestinian lives don't matter to you.

Israeli lives clearly don't matter to you. So what's your point?

All lives matter - not just Israelis. While Israelis, and in particular Jews, think 10/7 was a watershed moment in the conflict, for Palestinians who've had to deal with decades of Israel's oppression, it was just another day in the conflict.

Palestinian oppression has far too often been precipitated by their own atrocities.

So has Jewish oppression.

They are very similar to each other . Arabs and Jews throw gas on a fire then cry when they get burned .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These people are not the sharpest knives in the drawer......

Are they chanting Jihad in Washington Dc, a few miles from the post 9/11 Pentagon and waving a terrorist flag? What the actual F?

.

Expressing support for a ceasefire and more humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza is hardly calling for Jihad. It also does not make them anti semites ….

Absolutely everyone is for more humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The problem is that Hamas keeps stealing it.

That's just not true. There are quite a few members of the Israeli Government against any, let alone more, aid for Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank. Those Israeli Government members seem to think that if they just starve the Palestinians then the Palestinians will conveniently ethnically cleanse themselves.

That's false. Aid convoys have been going in. But they have been having other issues, like finding truck drivers willing to risk their lives. Hamas has opened fire around the trucks when people complained about them stealing the aid.

Post your source for this claim.

Are you for real? There have been dozens and dozens of documented instances of Hamas shooting people and threatening people and taking the aid for themselves going back to December and earlier. Here's yet another recent instance: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-781286

Stop gaslighting. Stop defending Hamas. Stop deflecting. Stop pretending none of this is real. Stop pretending there is one and only one bad guy here and that it's the IDF.

This is a lie spread by Israel that Hamas is stealing aid. Both the UN and the US say this is not happening. So do you believe Israel or the US?

From a Wapo article today:

Israeli officials have repeatedly charged that any lack of aid is due to Hamas looting inside Gaza, something that both the United Nations and the United States deny. Any looting that has taken place, a U.N. spokesman said in recent days, has been by “desperate” Gazan civilians who don’t know when or if the next delivery will come.

A senior U.S. official also sharply disputed Israel’s characterization, saying that “the Israeli government has not brought to the attention of the U.S. government … any specific evidence of Hamas theft or diversion of assistance provided via the U.N. and its agencies. Full stop.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/14/israel-gaza-low-intensity/

Did you forget when Hamas fighters pushed themselves to the front of the line, (ahead of dying children) to get medical treatment in the early days of the war? Maybe you missed that.

Again with this Israeli lie - it didn't happen.

All of these so-called "Israeli lies" have been repeatedly documented.

Documented by IDF but unverified - just like 40 beheaded babies.

There's video, photographic evidence and other things to prove many of the Israeli statements. Whereas Hamas has provided virtually nothing to actually debunk any of it, just empty blanket statements of "it's a lie."

Videos like the video of 2017 Mexican cartel the First Lady of Israel tweeted as proof that “khamas cut the pregnant lady open”? Yeah okay.

This again? You're the only person to ever bring that up in this entire thread. You like cherrypicking your "lies" from things that nobody here ever claimed, however you have no defense versus the many Hamas lies that you yourself have peddled here.