The Mueller Report

[Anonymous]

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Not true. In fact Linsey Graham asked this exact same question to AG Barr in his latest hearing. It's puzzling to both the chairman and AG that FBI suspected at the time that Carter Page, George Papadopoulus and Manafort were working with Russians but they chose NOT to tell the Trump campaign about it. AG Barr testified that there were two former US attorneys working in the Trump campaign -- Rudy and Chris Christie. FBI could easily convey the message with those two. Unless FBI's goal all along was to frame American citizens and not stopping Russians.

OK, let's play a logic game here. You are the FBI and our allies abroad have captured first hand sourcing (ie on audio/video) of some of the names listed talking to Russians about the election, or they have captured Russians talking among themselves, citing some of the names above in their conversation. You are suggesting that rather than further the investigation, they should instead notify Trump that some of his people are being talked about by Russians or were talking to Russians?

That isn't how it works.

And Rudy is as dirty as it gets so I don't know why you cite him in some extolling manner. There is a reason Christie didn't join the Administration - he wasn't compromised or dirty enough.

You are not making any sense. Let's play your logic game but replace Trump with Obama.

You are the FBI and our allies abroad have captured first hand sourcing that some Obama people talking to Russians about the election. According to you, FBI shouldn't notify Obama but just carry on surveillance. That isn't how it works. Remember at that point, Trump had already clinched the nomination and was receiving classified briefings.

(AG Barr mentioned the fact there were two US attorneys working in the Trump campaign in Graham's hearing. He didn't understand why FBI can't share that information with Trump or the two US attorneys.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Not true. In fact Linsey Graham asked this exact same question to AG Barr in his latest hearing. It's puzzling to both the chairman and AG that FBI suspected at the time that Carter Page, George Papadopoulus and Manafort were working with Russians but they chose NOT to tell the Trump campaign about it. AG Barr testified that there were two former US attorneys working in the Trump campaign -- Rudy and Chris Christie. FBI could easily convey the message with those two. Unless FBI's goal all along was to frame American citizens and not stopping Russians.

OK, let's play a logic game here. You are the FBI and our allies abroad have captured first hand sourcing (ie on audio/video) of some of the names listed talking to Russians about the election, or they have captured Russians talking among themselves, citing some of the names above in their conversation. You are suggesting that rather than further the investigation, they should instead notify Trump that some of his people are being talked about by Russians or were talking to Russians?

That isn't how it works.

And Rudy is as dirty as it gets so I don't know why you cite him in some extolling manner. There is a reason Christie didn't join the Administration - he wasn't compromised or dirty enough.

You are not making any sense. Let's play your logic game but replace Trump with Obama.

You are the FBI and our allies abroad have captured first hand sourcing that some Obama people talking to Russians about the election. According to you, FBI shouldn't notify Obama but just carry on surveillance. That isn't how it works. Remember at that point, Trump had already clinched the nomination and was receiving classified briefings.

(AG Barr mentioned the fact there were two US attorneys working in the Trump campaign in Graham's hearing. He didn't understand why FBI can't share that information with Trump or the two US attorneys.)

And in those classified briefings that Trump was receiving, he was told about Russian interference. And he deflected and denied it was happening. Perhaps a different response would have merited a different action from the FBI, but in this case, his reaction prompted more concern. How do you not get that?

[Anonymous]

Because the fbi were trying to find out if they were compromised. JFC you people are dumber than dirt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I knew I wasn't supporting a saint but, I know the candidate I was supporting was the best choice for the America I love. So, shove your only patriots would vote for ABC BS where the sun doesn't shine. Thank you.

Did you know he was this much “not a saint”? Did you hope for better from him? Or do you think this isn’t such a big deal and the corrupt media and dems are making s**t up?

I knew his opponent was "this much not a saint" and so did Democrats. You all put that candidate up anyway! I read Lessig. I heard from Bernie supporters and you still put her up. I supported my America and will continue to do so unapologetically.

Ok. Fine. I get that you made the best decision you feel you could have then. How about now? Hillary is in the rear view mirror. How do you feel about the report and the finding that Trump is more corrupt/corruptible than you presumably imagined when you voted for him? Do you still support him?

DP here: I do support him. I didn't find anything new in the report that I didn't know before the election. I knew he was a businessman and he had prior dealings. If they rise to the level of criminal corruption, he should be prosecuted by DOJ. If DOJ chose not to prosecute him, it is on them. I am more concerned that after spending so much money on this investigation, now we will be spending more money on Congress investigation. It is time to move on.

Really? You read the report and found nothing new in there that you didn’t know? I was willing to believe that you guys didn’t believe all the “fake news” but it sure looks like much of the reporting has been confirmed. If you already knew what was in the report and decided to support him anyway, so be it. It’s just that I don’t think we can come to common ground and so I am stepping out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are mad because the its their side that’s in bed with the Russians.

LOL.

Hi America,
America you had a good time while it lasted. Now you have small minded cult 45 members who cares not about You but about their cult leader and about the defeat of Fellow American Democrats. Country be damned. The cult 45 members don’t care about their leader being a liar, conman, fraud, destroyer of democratic institutions, lacks basic human decency or even a traitor if he could make money. So long my dear America. These fake patriots have finally blown you to pieces. You have debt as big as the gdp. So hope the cult 45 fake patriots will one day give way to a diverse and renewed America. Just hang in there America. You maybe down but we, the true patriots wont let you go down the tube. Not yet and not without a fight with the fake patriots fed on fake faux news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are mad because the its their side that’s in bed with the Russians.

LOL.

Hi America,
America you had a good time while it lasted. Now you have small minded cult 45 members who cares not about You but about their cult leader and about the defeat of Fellow American Democrats. Country be damned. The cult 45 members don’t care about their leader being a liar, conman, fraud, destroyer of democratic institutions, lacks basic human decency or even a traitor if he could make money. So long my dear America. These fake patriots have finally blown you to pieces. You have debt as big as the gdp. So hope the cult 45 fake patriots will one day give way to a diverse and renewed America. Just hang in there America. You maybe down but we, the true patriots wont let you go down the tube. Not yet and not without a fight with the fake patriots fed on fake faux news.

Dear author of rant above,
Keep your day job. Your writing sucks. And, your message is false.

[Anonymous]

Hi America,
America you had a good time while it lasted. Now you have small minded cult 45 members who cares not about You but about their cult leader and about the defeat of Fellow American Democrats. Country be damned. The cult 45 members don’t care about their leader being a liar, conman, fraud, destroyer of democratic institutions, lacks basic human decency or even a traitor if he could make money. So long my dear America. These fake patriots have finally blown you to pieces. You have debt as big as the gdp. So hope the cult 45 fake patriots will one day give way to a diverse and renewed America. Just hang in there America. You maybe down but we, the true patriots wont let you go down the tube. Not yet and not without a fight with the fake patriots fed on fake faux news.

Actually, ranter, I don't care for 45. However, I'd rather have 45 than someone who wishes to change the principles on which we were founded. We were not founded on socialism. We were founded as a republic that respected individual rights and freedoms. We were founded on freedom of religion, too. And, if you go back to the initial revolt, it was over taxes. Democrats want to change that.

Have mistakes been made? Sure. Slavery was the most egregious one--but, we had a war and changed that. Many Americans gave their lives in that war. Lately, we've made some other mistakes involving wars. Some poor decisions were made. Also, a law for health care was passed against the wishes of most Americans. And some Congressmen lost their jobs as a result of that passage. Some have come to support that law--many still resent the way it was done and the results that led to a big jump in health care costs. That still needs to be worked out. Immigration is another issue that is still in turmoil. Neither Republicans or Dems have done the right thing on that issue. Many in their ivory towers think it is fine--many in communities struggling with the influx of people and children are aware that something needs to be done--and soon. It is overwhelming school systems who are working to educate all, but were not prepared for the rapid increase in kids who need so much. Eventually, it will be worked out.

Some think more government is the answer. I do not.

[Anonymous]

Ive read the report. The Russians need to pay dearly for their blatant interference. Trump doesn’t have the will (or the balls) to make them pay. Who does? Who ever does, that is who I will vote for next year, regardless of party. You can’t let someone take a crap in your backyard and just slap them on the wrist.

[Anonymous]

"Contrary to what the investigation led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller is trying to prove, there are solid facts showing that the Democratic Party violated the law when illegal methods were used to force Bernie Sanders to quit the race" - Sergey Lavrov

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ive read the report. The Russians need to pay dearly for their blatant interference. Trump doesn’t have the will (or the balls) to make them pay. Who does? Who ever does, that is who I will vote for next year, regardless of party. You can’t let someone take a crap in your backyard and just slap them on the wrist.

Or, worse, offer them a beer.

[Anonymous]

Trump has done more to stop it than Obama. This happened on Obama's watch.

Also, the FBI alerted both the GOP and the Dems that they were subject to hacks. Who paid attention?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Contrary to what the investigation led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller is trying to prove, there are solid facts showing that the Democratic Party violated the law when illegal methods were used to force Bernie Sanders to quit the race" - Sergey Lavrov

A) Bernie was forced to quit the race when he got 4 million fewer votes.
B) Why should anyone listen to what a Russian spy has to say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump has done more to stop it than Obama. This happened on Obama's watch.

Also, the FBI alerted both the GOP and the Dems that they were subject to hacks. Who paid attention?

What exactly has Trump done to stop Russian influence on our elections? Be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Hi America,
America you had a good time while it lasted. Now you have small minded cult 45 members who cares not about You but about their cult leader and about the defeat of Fellow American Democrats. Country be damned. The cult 45 members don’t care about their leader being a liar, conman, fraud, destroyer of democratic institutions, lacks basic human decency or even a traitor if he could make money. So long my dear America. These fake patriots have finally blown you to pieces. You have debt as big as the gdp. So hope the cult 45 fake patriots will one day give way to a diverse and renewed America. Just hang in there America. You maybe down but we, the true patriots wont let you go down the tube. Not yet and not without a fight with the fake patriots fed on fake faux news.

Actually, ranter, I don't care for 45. However, I'd rather have 45 than someone who wishes to change the principles on which we were founded. We were not founded on socialism. We were founded as a republic that respected individual rights and freedoms. We were founded on freedom of religion, too. And, if you go back to the initial revolt, it was over taxes. Democrats want to change that.

Have mistakes been made? Sure. Slavery was the most egregious one--but, we had a war and changed that. Many Americans gave their lives in that war. Lately, we've made some other mistakes involving wars. Some poor decisions were made. Also, a law for health care was passed against the wishes of most Americans. And some Congressmen lost their jobs as a result of that passage. Some have come to support that law--many still resent the way it was done and the results that led to a big jump in health care costs. That still needs to be worked out. Immigration is another issue that is still in turmoil. Neither Republicans or Dems have done the right thing on that issue. Many in their ivory towers think it is fine--many in communities struggling with the influx of people and children are aware that something needs to be done--and soon. It is overwhelming school systems who are working to educate all, but were not prepared for the rapid increase in kids who need so much. Eventually, it will be worked out.

Some think more government is the answer. I do not.

So you support a budding authoritarian state.

And "socialism" (aka government programs) that you probably support:

Interstate Highway System and DOT
FAA
Medicare
Medicaid
Clean Water/Clean Air/EPA
Interstate Commerce as regulated by the US Department of Commerce
USDA for food safety and food standards
FDA for drug testing and approval so we all don't get snake oil
OSHA so our working conditions are safe
NIST so we have the same electrical current from building to building and appliance to appliance and other standards across industry
and the list goes on...


or maybe you don't support these things and we should just have the wild west. And in terms of what you are calling socialism, it is called an expansion of an existing government program. No one is suggesting government ownership of private land or of the cost of goods, labor and services.

So how about we be accurate in what we like and dislike, okay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Hi America,
America you had a good time while it lasted. Now you have small minded cult 45 members who cares not about You but about their cult leader and about the defeat of Fellow American Democrats. Country be damned. The cult 45 members don’t care about their leader being a liar, conman, fraud, destroyer of democratic institutions, lacks basic human decency or even a traitor if he could make money. So long my dear America. These fake patriots have finally blown you to pieces. You have debt as big as the gdp. So hope the cult 45 fake patriots will one day give way to a diverse and renewed America. Just hang in there America. You maybe down but we, the true patriots wont let you go down the tube. Not yet and not without a fight with the fake patriots fed on fake faux news.

Actually, ranter, I don't care for 45. However, I'd rather have 45 than someone who wishes to change the principles on which we were founded. We were not founded on socialism. We were founded as a republic that respected individual rights and freedoms. We were founded on freedom of religion, too. And, if you go back to the initial revolt, it was over taxes. Democrats want to change that.

Have mistakes been made? Sure. Slavery was the most egregious one--but, we had a war and changed that. Many Americans gave their lives in that war. Lately, we've made some other mistakes involving wars. Some poor decisions were made. Also, a law for health care was passed against the wishes of most Americans. And some Congressmen lost their jobs as a result of that passage. Some have come to support that law--many still resent the way it was done and the results that led to a big jump in health care costs. That still needs to be worked out. Immigration is another issue that is still in turmoil. Neither Republicans or Dems have done the right thing on that issue. Many in their ivory towers think it is fine--many in communities struggling with the influx of people and children are aware that something needs to be done--and soon. It is overwhelming school systems who are working to educate all, but were not prepared for the rapid increase in kids who need so much. Eventually, it will be worked out.

Some think more government is the answer. I do not.

uh, support for the ACA is riding around 70% right now. You may want to check that argument.