APS VA Snow Day Projection

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Anonymous wrote:It is next level nuts they are now enforcing it starting today. Someone find some logic. I'm baffled.

I've seen people on local Facebook groups saying it doesn't matter if they clear their sidewalks because it's not being enforced. They are not going to do it unless someone threatens them. To the PP who gave it another try and gave up - I'm sympathetic if you're talking about a giant wall of plowed snow. If it's just your normal sidewalk, you had 8 days to figure out a solution. It's 100% on you that you didn't do anything yet.

In my defense, I’ve clocked over 15 hours out there at this point. I injured myself trying to dig us out from behind the iceberg they erected in front of my driveway. At this point I should fine the county for the absurd labor the subjected me to! I’m very comfortable invoking an exemption as to what remains.

That's nice. Your neighbors are judging you for your cleared driveway/uncleared sidewalk combo. When it inconvenienced you personally, you managed just fine.

DP. People are doing the best they can. This is difficult and slow going, and not everyone has the same physical capacity. Instead of being snarky, go help your neighbor. I think it's normal to make sure you can get in/out before shoveling sidewalks. That's what we do too.

Sorry but plenty of people are not doing the best they can. I have two able bodied neighbors. Younger than me males. They shoveled their driveways out and ignored their sidewalks. Then back at it when it worked for them to shovel cars out from the street. No I'm not shoveling their sidewalk for them.

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We have a couple neighbors like that. Zero excuses. They are capable and can afford the packs of teens going around shoveling.

If people have extenuating circumstances that’s one thing. But flat out laziness isn’t ok.

This. Four houses on my street didn't showel their sidewalks. One is a 30 year old. He finally paid some guys to dig out his car yesterday, but didn't bother with the sidewalk. Another moved and just left their house vacant but still brings over trash to put out, so I know they've been there. Another is lawyers with teens. I guess they are just lazy. I went out and made my driveway entrance bigger today. It's not snowcrete anymore. It can be shovelled.

Yes, it got over 32 today and the snow was much easier to break up today. We cleared out more around our car too.

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Anonymous wrote:Has the risk of Wednesday morning snow disappeared from the forecast? If it snows, I fear Wednesday will become another cancellation.

2 hr delay

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All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

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Anonymous wrote:delay tomorrow - makes sense. it was ugly this AM

I left 10 minutes earlier than I would normally leave if driving my kids off (at two separate schools - middle school and high school start times) and it was a massive nothing burger.

Just throwing it out there that parts of the County and some schools seem a-ok. Sorry to those struggling I know there are some tough spots.

Im sorry, what? Did you drop off your kids or not? And MS/HS? Or you just left earlier for your commute to work?

The elementary are the worst; older kids tend to have staggered drop offs because a teen can walk a couple blocks on their own; most elementary drivers must arrive at the actual school.

I allowed 10 minutes more than I normally would to drop them. The scene at drop off at the giant high schools is something else even on a normal day. Starting in 3rd I would drop mine and let mine walk on their own. Mine walked to the bus stop alone at that age. Yes even in some snow I would. Littler than that, it's tough. So hats off you had it the absolute worst.

Everything is terrible I'm so sorry I wrote in with my experience.

This isnt snow. This is ice encasing everything, I wouldn’t let any elementary child walk alone for blocks with so many unshoveled sidewalks that are ice rinks (or walk in street hidden by snow mounds from drivers).

Kids are short and unlikely to get hurt in a slip and fall. You following after them are at far greater risk of getting hurt.

Maybe your kid wont be impeded by a brain injury, but mine could be.

There around mounds of snow 2 feet above the street, slip on that and your head travels 6 ft to the pavement.

Yeesh. What a way to live.

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I hope they do the two hour delay all week. I just wiped out on black ice twice. This is the time I normally leave for work. I am a teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:It is next level nuts they are now enforcing it starting today. Someone find some logic. I'm baffled.

I've seen people on local Facebook groups saying it doesn't matter if they clear their sidewalks because it's not being enforced. They are not going to do it unless someone threatens them. To the PP who gave it another try and gave up - I'm sympathetic if you're talking about a giant wall of plowed snow. If it's just your normal sidewalk, you had 8 days to figure out a solution. It's 100% on you that you didn't do anything yet.

In my defense, I’ve clocked over 15 hours out there at this point. I injured myself trying to dig us out from behind the iceberg they erected in front of my driveway. At this point I should fine the county for the absurd labor the subjected me to! I’m very comfortable invoking an exemption as to what remains.

That's nice. Your neighbors are judging you for your cleared driveway/uncleared sidewalk combo. When it inconvenienced you personally, you managed just fine.

DP. People are doing the best they can. This is difficult and slow going, and not everyone has the same physical capacity. Instead of being snarky, go help your neighbor. I think it's normal to make sure you can get in/out before shoveling sidewalks. That's what we do too.

Sorry but plenty of people are not doing the best they can. I have two able bodied neighbors. Younger than me males. They shoveled their driveways out and ignored their sidewalks. Then back at it when it worked for them to shovel cars out from the street. No I'm not shoveling their sidewalk for them.

+1

We have a couple neighbors like that. Zero excuses. They are capable and can afford the packs of teens going around shoveling.

If people have extenuating circumstances that’s one thing. But flat out laziness isn’t ok.

This. Four houses on my street didn't showel their sidewalks. One is a 30 year old. He finally paid some guys to dig out his car yesterday, but didn't bother with the sidewalk. Another moved and just left their house vacant but still brings over trash to put out, so I know they've been there. Another is lawyers with teens. I guess they are just lazy. I went out and made my driveway entrance bigger today. It's not snowcrete anymore. It can be shovelled.

I live in Fairfax County, where it’s not mandatory to shovel sidewalks and probably less than half ever do. I frequently am on here because it’s where I teach. It’s wild to me how often all of you talk about sidewalks and stress over them. People are walking their dogs on the unshoveled parts and yes, kids walked to the bus stop. It’s not ideal but worked out okay. If they walk in the street, cars go around them. On any given day of the year, some are in the street by choice anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:delay tomorrow - makes sense. it was ugly this AM

I left 10 minutes earlier than I would normally leave if driving my kids off (at two separate schools - middle school and high school start times) and it was a massive nothing burger.

Just throwing it out there that parts of the County and some schools seem a-ok. Sorry to those struggling I know there are some tough spots.

Im sorry, what? Did you drop off your kids or not? And MS/HS? Or you just left earlier for your commute to work?

The elementary are the worst; older kids tend to have staggered drop offs because a teen can walk a couple blocks on their own; most elementary drivers must arrive at the actual school.

I allowed 10 minutes more than I normally would to drop them. The scene at drop off at the giant high schools is something else even on a normal day. Starting in 3rd I would drop mine and let mine walk on their own. Mine walked to the bus stop alone at that age. Yes even in some snow I would. Littler than that, it's tough. So hats off you had it the absolute worst.

Everything is terrible I'm so sorry I wrote in with my experience.

This isnt snow. This is ice encasing everything, I wouldn’t let any elementary child walk alone for blocks with so many unshoveled sidewalks that are ice rinks (or walk in street hidden by snow mounds from drivers).

Kids are short and unlikely to get hurt in a slip and fall. You following after them are at far greater risk of getting hurt.

Maybe your kid wont be impeded by a brain injury, but mine could be.

There around mounds of snow 2 feet above the street, slip on that and your head travels 6 ft to the pavement.

Their far more likely to get a brain injury from that ebike or escooter that you bought for them.

I'm sorry, but I'm from New England and this snow is nothing. A two foot pile here and there? Lol. That's nothing. Kids are fine to navigate outside.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they do the two hour delay all week. I just wiped out on black ice twice. This is the time I normally leave for work. I am a teacher.

They already said normal operations Thursday and Friday.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

How nice that you live in a part of Arlington where the sections of ice covered sidewalks only require a 20 second detour. Drive Arlington Ridge road where students walk to Gunston MS. It is a hill. It is a very busy street that would be unsafe for kids to walk in. About a block of the sidewalks on both sides are covered in ice that has not been touched other than some places where plows have piled more snowcrete.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

How nice that you live in a part of Arlington where the sections of ice covered sidewalks only require a 20 second detour. Drive Arlington Ridge road where students walk to Gunston MS. It is a hill. It is a very busy street that would be unsafe for kids to walk in. About a block of the sidewalks on both sides are covered in ice that has not been touched other than some places where plows have piled more snowcrete.

There's a stretch along Langston that DHMS students have to walk that no one shovels. The county really needs to step up and clear these key areas. Bring in a bobcat and get it done. They can't do everywhere but those "student highways" along major roads need to be handled.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

How nice that you live in a part of Arlington where the sections of ice covered sidewalks only require a 20 second detour. Drive Arlington Ridge road where students walk to Gunston MS. It is a hill. It is a very busy street that would be unsafe for kids to walk in. About a block of the sidewalks on both sides are covered in ice that has not been touched other than some places where plows have piled more snowcrete.

There's a stretch along Langston that DHMS students have to walk that no one shovels. The county really needs to step up and clear these key areas. Bring in a bobcat and get it done. They can't do everywhere but those "student highways" along major roads need to be handled.

I emailed in about a key stretch along Washington Blvd last last week that belongs to AHC in front of. Westover apartments. For Swanson walkers.

Got a form reply that said they weren’t enforcing the sidewalk ordinance. Why wait to start enforcing it at 9am the day the kids go back?

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The APEs have been triggered all over again by this, been fun to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:The APEs have been triggered all over again by this, been fun to watch.

The obsession on this board with APE is weird. I pay zero attention to them but I think the APE crime is expecting school to open and pointing out when things aren’t being run so well? Why are you so triggered by APE is my question.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

Amen. The kids need to be in school. This is literally nothing. I understand not everyone has experienced snow before but the situation has ended and the kids need to be in school.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say being originally from Chicago is that parents here are such helicopter parents. It's ice. It's snow. Walk a bit slower. It's fine if you're careful. It's not Armageddon out there - no fire and brimstone. It's not even horrible - it's not totally care but you can look both ways before stepping off the sidewalk for 20 seconds to avoid ice on parts of the sidewalk. Maybe not at age 5 but if you're 8 yr old can't do that it is bad parenting. No wonder our country is going downhill!

How nice that you live in a part of Arlington where the sections of ice covered sidewalks only require a 20 second detour. Drive Arlington Ridge road where students walk to Gunston MS. It is a hill. It is a very busy street that would be unsafe for kids to walk in. About a block of the sidewalks on both sides are covered in ice that has not been touched other than some places where plows have piled more snowcrete.

There's a stretch along Langston that DHMS students have to walk that no one shovels. The county really needs to step up and clear these key areas. Bring in a bobcat and get it done. They can't do everywhere but those "student highways" along major roads need to be handled.

I emailed in about a key stretch along Washington Blvd last last week that belongs to AHC in front of. Westover apartments. For Swanson walkers.

Got a form reply that said they weren’t enforcing the sidewalk ordinance. Why wait to start enforcing it at 9am the day the kids go back?

APS and parents really need to lobby the county to change this position. It's a safety issue, just like crosswalk signs and guardrails.