The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

They use lower income POC as props for accusing other people of racism when they oppose housing. And then when people point out that the housing won’t be affordable for lower income people they ask “who said it would????????”

Because the NIMBY plan to reduce housing cost is... what exactly?

Neither YIMBYs nor NIMBYs have a “plan to reduce housing cost.”

+1 The local MoCo buzzword "attainable housing" does not equal affordable housing. The real estate developers are the only clear winners in this as long as MoCo doesn't invest in adequate traffic planning and ways to have our already overcrowded schools absorb all these new people.

Don’t worry, the “plan” is to adjust school boundaries, shifting your kids around until everyone is equally miserable.

“while some individual schools are overcrowded, the system countywide is not”

https://montgomeryplanning.org/blog-design/2024/08/faq-curious-about-our-proposal-to-relax-single-family-zoning-weve-got-answers/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2BUW8_qM455xpguZ95QhxL1Wms0XQyN43Sb7RdfCImjh2JtyYUFQARsvE_aem_xKtETubtMdUUusfjAQN-UQ

But a lot of the development is occuring in the places where the schools are most crowded. So it is useless to say, MCPS is on average under-enrolled, when your kid has an average of 34 kids in their classes.

[Anonymous]

More Thrive-esque non-answer answers.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/attainable-housing-strategies-what-were-hearing/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR131PtnV3M1nYSqtK0EP7jBzM7C2oq0y4UDW0drpVOCIeAou6mrLuQ696k_aem_Wh6uNhsMWIyGMAGgg9Vl_Q

They are clearly collecting information from these threads

At least they are sweating it a little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More Thrive-esque non-answer answers.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/attainable-housing-strategies-what-were-hearing/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR131PtnV3M1nYSqtK0EP7jBzM7C2oq0y4UDW0drpVOCIeAou6mrLuQ696k_aem_Wh6uNhsMWIyGMAGgg9Vl_Q

They are clearly collecting information from these threads

At least they are sweating it a little.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

So he acknowledges missing middle destroys existing communities and their residents?

He is talking about Arlington where gentrification has already done that and more gentrification encouraged by MM housing will continue it.

Harris is making the lack of housing an important part of her campaign. I should follow to see if she has said much about rezoning single family areas to encourage multifamily development. The big "success" is Portland, OR, but the most of the MM housing there is Accessory Dwelling Units built behind single family houses. Maybe 5,000 ADUs built in Portland but far fewer plexes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

I am impressed by the YIMBY marketing. A bunch of white middle class libertarians have embraced trickle down theory and applied it to housing and yet have somehow branded themselves as progressives?

I am more impressed by how easily they made themselves the useful idiots of developers. They have given builders many more development opportunities with more profit potential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

So he acknowledges missing middle destroys existing communities and their residents?

He is talking about Arlington where gentrification has already done that and more gentrification encouraged by MM housing will continue it.

Harris is making the lack of housing an important part of her campaign. I should follow to see if she has said much about rezoning single family areas to encourage multifamily development. The big "success" is Portland, OR, but the most of the MM housing there is Accessory Dwelling Units built behind single family houses. Maybe 5,000 ADUs built in Portland but far fewer plexes.

It would be idiotic to campaign on eliminating single family zoning. Harris will lose PA and some other swing states due to backlash from suburban voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More Thrive-esque non-answer answers.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/attainable-housing-strategies-what-were-hearing/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR131PtnV3M1nYSqtK0EP7jBzM7C2oq0y4UDW0drpVOCIeAou6mrLuQ696k_aem_Wh6uNhsMWIyGMAGgg9Vl_Q

They are clearly collecting information from these threads

At least they are sweating it a little.

The very first answer is misleading, which is probably why they don’t link to the growth and infrastructure policy or the proposed reductions in impact fees. Planning is recommending massive cuts in impact fees, which will either delay road and school construction more or require large property tax increases to offset increased borrowing costs. It’s just the same old same old from Planning. They seem incapable of presenting unbiased information and instead engage in over the top advocacy every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

I am impressed by the YIMBY marketing. A bunch of white middle class libertarians have embraced trickle down theory and applied it to housing and yet have somehow branded themselves as progressives?

I am more impressed by how easily they made themselves the useful idiots of developers. They have given builders many more development opportunities with more profit potential.

And without reducing housing costs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

I am impressed by the YIMBY marketing. A bunch of white middle class libertarians have embraced trickle down theory and applied it to housing and yet have somehow branded themselves as progressives?

I am more impressed by how easily they made themselves the useful idiots of developers. They have given builders many more development opportunities with more profit potential.

And without reducing housing costs!

Yes. And how they want to eradicate middle and working class home ownership in the name of middle and working class home ownership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More Thrive-esque non-answer answers.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/attainable-housing-strategies-what-were-hearing/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR131PtnV3M1nYSqtK0EP7jBzM7C2oq0y4UDW0drpVOCIeAou6mrLuQ696k_aem_Wh6uNhsMWIyGMAGgg9Vl_Q

They are clearly collecting information from these threads

At least they are sweating it a little.

What a bunch of horse poop. The impact statements from developers are a joke and MoCo planning just rubber stamps them. One developer put down that a huge condo building would add just 3 kids to the public school population and MoCo let it through.

Increased Demands on Infrastructure
While impacts on infrastructure (schools, transportation, water and sewer) are likely to be minimal, these can be addressed through existing policies including those contained in the Growth and Infrastructure Policy. For example, attainable housing options are subject to existing transportation and school impact tax payments and any applicable Utilization Premium Payments to mitigate impacts on crowded schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More Thrive-esque non-answer answers.

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/attainable-housing-strategies-what-were-hearing/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR131PtnV3M1nYSqtK0EP7jBzM7C2oq0y4UDW0drpVOCIeAou6mrLuQ696k_aem_Wh6uNhsMWIyGMAGgg9Vl_Q

They are clearly collecting information from these threads

At least they are sweating it a little.

What a bunch of horse poop. The impact statements from developers are a joke and MoCo planning just rubber stamps them. One developer put down that a huge condo building would add just 3 kids to the public school population and MoCo let it through.

Increased Demands on Infrastructure
While impacts on infrastructure (schools, transportation, water and sewer) are likely to be minimal, these can be addressed through existing policies including those contained in the Growth and Infrastructure Policy. For example, attainable housing options are subject to existing transportation and school impact tax payments and any applicable Utilization Premium Payments to mitigate impacts on crowded schools.

Are the real estate developers writing the montgomery county planning website? At least link to the Growth and Infrastructure Policy and the explanation of how school impact tax payments are calculated so residents can see how limited they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

I am impressed by the YIMBY marketing. A bunch of white middle class libertarians have embraced trickle down theory and applied it to housing and yet have somehow branded themselves as progressives?

I am more impressed by how easily they made themselves the useful idiots of developers. They have given builders many more development opportunities with more profit potential.

And without reducing housing costs!

Don't forget it's "attainable" housing not "affordable housing." Affordable housing has to be available to the masses. Attainable housing can be any price under the sun. MoCo is in the business of making developers very happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

So he acknowledges missing middle destroys existing communities and their residents?

He is talking about Arlington where gentrification has already done that and more gentrification encouraged by MM housing will continue it.

Harris is making the lack of housing an important part of her campaign. I should follow to see if she has said much about rezoning single family areas to encourage multifamily development. The big "success" is Portland, OR, but the most of the MM housing there is Accessory Dwelling Units built behind single family houses. Maybe 5,000 ADUs built in Portland but far fewer plexes.

It would be idiotic to campaign on eliminating single family zoning. Harris will lose PA and some other swing states due to backlash from suburban voters.

It is a good thing then that Harris is not proposing the elimination of SFH zoning. I thought it’s obvious but apparently not: there is a lot of daylight between encouraging ADUs and eliminating SFH zoning. The idea of eliminating SFH zoning nationwide is a nonstarter, even among most YIMBYs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

I am impressed by the YIMBY marketing. A bunch of white middle class libertarians have embraced trickle down theory and applied it to housing and yet have somehow branded themselves as progressives?

I am more impressed by how easily they made themselves the useful idiots of developers. They have given builders many more development opportunities with more profit potential.

And without reducing housing costs!

Don't forget it's "attainable" housing not "affordable housing." Affordable housing has to be available to the masses. Attainable housing can be any price under the sun. MoCo is in the business of making developers very happy.

Doing a basic search for a definition of affordable housing would be very helpful to you, as would a search for the definition of attainable housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If housing is a human right, then YIMBYs are part of the core problem.

https://www.housingisahumanright.org/what-is-a-yimby-hint-its-not-good/

These are the YIMBYs, people:

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sb-827-rallies-end-with-yimbys-shouting-down-protesters-of-color/article_42f1bb0c-c4c5-5401-a395-5aff1b28137c.html

NOVA YIMBYs are overwhelmingly white with a maybe a southeast Asian or two, one or two African Americans, and with a penchant for patronizing and condescending to lower income POC, or people they deem beneath their overly-educated standards.

Except for, you know, the NCAAP supporting pro-housing legislation because they understand Econ 101. But yeah, other than that you are entirely correct! (meaning, totally wrong)

Of course, the NAACP (assuming you mean the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and not whatever NCAAP might be) support pro-housing legislation. They have gotten royal screwed by white gentrifiers and will continue to be screwed over by Missing Middle. One of the few African American NoVa YIMBYs runs the Arlington NAACP. He is working to keep missing middle out of the few remaining African American neighborhoods like Johnson's Hill, Green Valley, Halls Hill and Highview Park. He is also advocating for actual affordable housing rental units to house the people being displaced by gentrification. A Thanksgiving tradition for decades, the Halls Hill turkey bowl team now had two residents of Halls Hill on the team. The others have been gentrified out of the community where most of them had lived for years.

In addition to Econ 101 I understand politics 101.

So he acknowledges missing middle destroys existing communities and their residents?

He is talking about Arlington where gentrification has already done that and more gentrification encouraged by MM housing will continue it.

Harris is making the lack of housing an important part of her campaign. I should follow to see if she has said much about rezoning single family areas to encourage multifamily development. The big "success" is Portland, OR, but the most of the MM housing there is Accessory Dwelling Units built behind single family houses. Maybe 5,000 ADUs built in Portland but far fewer plexes.

It would be idiotic to campaign on eliminating single family zoning. Harris will lose PA and some other swing states due to backlash from suburban voters.

It is a good thing then that Harris is not proposing the elimination of SFH zoning. I thought it’s obvious but apparently not: there is a lot of daylight between encouraging ADUs and eliminating SFH zoning. The idea of eliminating SFH zoning nationwide is a nonstarter, even among most YIMBYs.

She absolutely planning on doing this and most YIMBY are adamantly opposed to single family zoning. Don’t fall for their lies they will not stop until you can ruin neighborhoods with 10+ story apartment towers everywhere.