ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this is happening? Great options from everyone. I like ECNL adding biobanding as an option.

Just curious if ECNL has mentioned anything to other ECNL directors.

This has not been disucssed at all. This is all made up on this thread. There was a podcast where some ECNL people said some stuff. And there has been a survey from US Soccer to club heads. That is all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So this is happening? Great options from everyone. I like ECNL adding biobanding as an option.

Just curious if ECNL has mentioned anything to other ECNL directors.

This has not been disucssed at all. This is all made up on this thread. There was a podcast where some ECNL people said some stuff. And there has been a survey from US Soccer to club heads. That is all.

Yup my ECNL directors said he has no idea about it. Top 10 nationally ranked club. They would know. If you do know you can say your source otherwise you are full of it.

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There is no way most ECNL directors don't know about the rumor. They may not be in the know if it us happening, but the rumor itself is rampant among all involved in the youth soccer community. Of course they are all getting asked repeatedly on this.

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Anonymous wrote:To provide a better product for college coaches, it makes sense for ECNL to allow late birthday players an option to play down. This is a win-win for both college coaches and trapped players. It also gives ECNL an edge if GA does not follow through.

November 2008 kid playing 2009's

November 2008 kid playing 2008s or 2007's

Who are the college coaches looking at to recruit?

Without giving the option for late birthday players to play down with her same-grade team, she will not be eligible for recruiting when the college coaches watch her team in the showcase during recruiting. When she is junior and ready to recruit, her teammates are seniors and already done with recruiting. College coaches will spend valuable time watching the younger team during the showcase. The current birth year without an option for late birthday players to play down gives 25% of players a much more difficult time than the other 75% during the recruiting process.

This is 100% true. Anybody saying otherwise is clueless.

So ECNL players don't contact colleges/coaches?

They just go to ID camps and showcases and cross their fingers?

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Anonymous wrote:To provide a better product for college coaches, it makes sense for ECNL to allow late birthday players an option to play down. This is a win-win for both college coaches and trapped players. It also gives ECNL an edge if GA does not follow through.

November 2008 kid playing 2009's

November 2008 kid playing 2008s or 2007's

Who are the college coaches looking at to recruit?

Without giving the option for late birthday players to play down with her same-grade team, she will not be eligible for recruiting when the college coaches watch her team in the showcase during recruiting. When she is junior and ready to recruit, her teammates are seniors and already done with recruiting. College coaches will spend valuable time watching the younger team during the showcase. The current birth year without an option for late birthday players to play down gives 25% of players a much more difficult time than the other 75% during the recruiting process.

This is 100% true. Anybody saying otherwise is clueless.

So ECNL players don't contact colleges/coaches?

They just go to ID camps and showcases and cross their fingers?

Stop gaslighting. You know very well how this works with the rules on recruiting and eligible contact grades

Coaches have limited time at showcases. They have time to see a handful of games from the hundreds who may have emailed them. If you are a college coach are you going to see the U-19s or the u-17? Come on. Don’t play dumb.

The trapped players get screwed at U-17 (when they are in the wrong grade to be able to have any direct contact) and at U-19 when they are able to but when the rest of their team is already committed or checked out and therefore the age group gets very little coach attention.

Heck-they aren’t even allowed to compete in Champions League Nationals if their team makes it…Let’s not be ridiculous and suggest it’s any other way….Lets hope ECNL fixes the problem and levels the playing field.

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Anonymous wrote:To provide a better product for college coaches, it makes sense for ECNL to allow late birthday players an option to play down. This is a win-win for both college coaches and trapped players. It also gives ECNL an edge if GA does not follow through.

November 2008 kid playing 2009's

November 2008 kid playing 2008s or 2007's

Who are the college coaches looking at to recruit?

Without giving the option for late birthday players to play down with her same-grade team, she will not be eligible for recruiting when the college coaches watch her team in the showcase during recruiting. When she is junior and ready to recruit, her teammates are seniors and already done with recruiting. College coaches will spend valuable time watching the younger team during the showcase. The current birth year without an option for late birthday players to play down gives 25% of players a much more difficult time than the other 75% during the recruiting process.

This is 100% true. Anybody saying otherwise is clueless.

So ECNL players don't contact colleges/coaches?

They just go to ID camps and showcases and cross their fingers?

When it is time for late birthday players to go to the showcase, 75% of teammates are already done with recruiting. Most college coaches would watch the younger team in the showcase, as 75% are in the recruiting window. At least ECNL should give the late birthday players an option to play down to join their grade team. This will give them the same exposure to college recruiting. It is not fair for late birthday players to overcome extra difficulties compared with other players in the same grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I think ECNL will allow bio-banding to copy the MLS playbook so trapped players can choose to play down with their same-grade peers. This will help provide a level field for trapped players during recruiting.

Not all trapped players are late maturity developers

There just saying that ECNL will create some kind of loophole, like MLS has for biobanding, so clubs can let a few players play down a year to balance teams.

Biobanding isn't a loophole
It's a legitimate process for late maturing kids to not get left out of the sport.

Individual clubs abusing it for selfish reasons is a different story

The podcast brought on a doctor to point out that physical maturation isn't very measurable as metrics were often wrong, very wrong. With biobanding not defined on height, it isn't a rule to help shorter kids. So in implementation, without true measurements, biobanding selection is just guess work and as has been mentioned, what seems as cheating the system.

I don't think it's guess work when a 2011 November kid is shorter, lighter, smaller than all his 2011 teammates and opponents and gets easily bodied off the ball

That is the issue, it is not a loophole meant to help smaller kids, it is a loophole to help those with delayed physical growth. So the difference between the child's size and the parent's size would mean more than the child's size, and growth rates would also matter (again not size levels). But again according to the podcast, the doc said the science couldn't find reliable metrics. (For example, Freddy Adu wasn't a late developer, he was just smaller at all stages of youth, while of course having a phenomenal youth career.)

Using your Nov. example, November kids could go down year if school dates are used.

Youth football tends to have weight maximums to protect the smaller players.

Anyways, seems the bigger issue is the smaller 2014-5 player getting knocked off the ball from behind and larger players taking running paths through the smaller players when not having position and the referees refusing to call fouls. My 2012 December kid with great technical skills was getting tossed around until about 2 years ago, when the referees stopped treating the game like a pickup game at recess. While it seems like he got much better, he didn't, the game is finally soccer after it was more like playing rugby the previous years.

If the referees at the younger ages actual called smaller kids getting illegally bodied off the ball, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

You sure use a lot of words to mask the fact you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Other than your single thread mind tunnel to promote the podcast that's saying RAE and determination of late bloomer maturation being used successfully in Europe doesn't exist.

Yes, a 50/50 legal shoulder that sends a 20lbs lighter kid who's 10 months younger flying is the referees fault 🙄

It seems you are reading into this. Where did they write that a 50/50 shoulder challenge is illegal?

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Anonymous wrote:To provide a better product for college coaches, it makes sense for ECNL to allow late birthday players an option to play down. This is a win-win for both college coaches and trapped players. It also gives ECNL an edge if GA does not follow through.

November 2008 kid playing 2009's

November 2008 kid playing 2008s or 2007's

Who are the college coaches looking at to recruit?

Without giving the option for late birthday players to play down with her same-grade team, she will not be eligible for recruiting when the college coaches watch her team in the showcase during recruiting. When she is junior and ready to recruit, her teammates are seniors and already done with recruiting. College coaches will spend valuable time watching the younger team during the showcase. The current birth year without an option for late birthday players to play down gives 25% of players a much more difficult time than the other 75% during the recruiting process.

This is 100% true. Anybody saying otherwise is clueless.

So ECNL players don't contact colleges/coaches?

They just go to ID camps and showcases and cross their fingers?

When it is time for late birthday players to go to the showcase, 75% of teammates are already done with recruiting. Most college coaches would watch the younger team in the showcase, as 75% are in the recruiting window. At least ECNL should give the late birthday players an option to play down to join their grade team. This will give them the same exposure to college recruiting. It is not fair for late birthday players to overcome extra difficulties compared with other players in the same grade.

This what happens in the world of entitlement and privilege.
Anything not easy and laid out on a platter without adversity isn't fair.

God forbid all these spoiled kids and parents gotta do some work and reach out to market themselves to college coaches.
No, the college coaches must come and pick them like a diamond out of the jewelry case.
smh

[Anonymous]

If they change to Grad year I look forward to the older kids coming down for your kids spot. Your lack depth to the situation shows you’re an idiot or just shows what you know to be true your kid losing the age advantage means they are now at a disadvantage.

If you don’t think it’s an issue and your kid is amazing you should want the extra challenge for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they change to Grad year I look forward to the older kids coming down for your kids spot. Your lack depth to the situation shows you’re an idiot or just shows what you know to be true your kid losing the age advantage means they are now at a disadvantage.

If you don’t think it’s an issue and your kid is amazing you should want the extra challenge for them.

I look forward to you looking forward

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Anonymous wrote:If they change to Grad year I look forward to the older kids coming down for your kids spot. Your lack depth to the situation shows you’re an idiot or just shows what you know to be true your kid losing the age advantage means they are now at a disadvantage.

If you don’t think it’s an issue and your kid is amazing you should want the extra challenge for them.

I look forward to you looking forward

I look forward to you looking forward for me.

[Anonymous]

My ECNL Director said not happening until 26/27. ECNL may add bio banding for boys/girls 25/26.

[Anonymous]

Just to let you all know. My buddy ECNL Director in California said ECNL has not said one thing to anyone about this. It is all just a rumor. Nothing more.

[Anonymous]

From ECNL. Sorry GY enthusiasts.

This has been a topic of discussion in social media for the last three months. Christian and Doug even discussed it on ECNL podcast breaking the line. I recommend that you listen to that episode.

Since then, no further discussions have been had. Christian is always in conversations with US Soccer but he has not come up in a conversation as of late.

If a change in birth year to school year would happen, our membership would be informed immediately.

[Anonymous]

Is this really what the email says? "[H]e has not come up" ? Doesn't sound right.