Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

I feel so many things watching that sex toys video.

First, she’s in a dark, dark place.

A close second is, as a former ANCer, DAMN what fools we were. DAMN we were such fools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I do have to point out though that keeping it below 10% for a nonprofit is hard, esp if you employ fundraisers. The standard is more like 20%. I don’t think legacy collective employs fundraisers and since it’s a giving circle I would expect their admin/fundraising to be much lower, but 10% is almost impossible for a lot of nonprofits who are actually doing work and employing people to help raise funds to do the work.

Fair enough.

But as a giving circle, their admin funds should be lower than average, not higher. And there's a lot of duplication of resources because they continue to use Pure Charity to manage fundraising, giving accounts and receipting.

When Legacy Collective was originally set up, it was a donor advised fund, so within that framework I understood whey they hired Pure Charity to adminster things. But when LC changed to a 501(c)(3) in early 2021, they should have severed ties with Pure and utilized their own paid administrative staff to manage this side of things. That's what 501(c)(3) does! Instead, they are paying too much in overhead expenses, duplicating many costs they could streamline in house. If this were prioritized, they could achieve A&M costs of 15-16%, putting more $$$ in the hands of their charities.

Yes, and it's my understanding that LC simply highlights other charities that are already in existence and send money to them. If you legit wanted to do good, you'd simply post a link to those chariots and connect people to them directly. This is just a fancy cash grab. The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so many things watching that sex toys video.

First, she’s in a dark, dark place.

A close second is, as a former ANCer, DAMN what fools we were. DAMN we were such fools.

Narcissistic chameleon predator types like Jen are very very convincing.
Their superpowers are faking sincerity and warmth and connection in the pursuit of ulterior motives.

Jen is really good at this, especially with women her age.
Brandon wasn’t so much. He’s more normal in this regard and largely
took her lead. That’s probably a reason he had his meltdown. The cognitive dissonance was too unbearable.

Normies are often easy prey for such types.

Lauren

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes! The post above about how Jen made a big serious theological deal ( serious for her at least) about her new LGBT position, BUT- presto- now sex whenever is fine, no questions, no accompanying Bible study, no big announcement like she did with her daughter- it's just weird. And sad. You phrased it so well.
Never mind the sex- maybe a new study- " for the love of money"- would be most helpful here.

When you start “reinterpreting” aka rejecting the parts of the Bible you don’t like, eventually you reject all the verses. It happens over and over.

Jen always espoused a works-based gospel. That’s fundamentally what the Social Gospel, now rebranded Social Justice gospel, is. You pay for your salvation by how woke you are. It’s no different than sending a check to Joel Osteen, except the SJ gospel is much much judgier. The problem with both gospels is that first, they are lies based on lies perpetuated by liars. And second, they ALWAYS disappoint when life gets hard, which often leads to repugnance and anger with God. How could he let these bad things happen to me when I was so “good”.

The true gospel of JC says, you’re a hot mess, and you’ll never be able to fix it, which is why God had to send Jesus. The world is a hot mess and will only get worse. Accept that Jesus came to fix you, *not* the world, you will grow holier and that will change how you respond to it. But growing holy inherently means you have to stop sinning, and God defines what sin is, not the culture, and not you.

That last bit about sin is the stumbling block for many. But if you reject the I-don’t-get-to-define-what-sin-is part, the truth is, you’re just not that into Jesus after all.

He’s not your therapist, he’s not your guru, he’s not your bestie. He’s your LORD. He calls the shots and you trust that his ways are better than yours.

I don’t think Jen comprehends that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's comical- I think it's really sad. This is the kind of thing that leads up to a major breakdown of tragic suicide or something else like that. I feel sorry for Jen. If things were going well, she wouldn't be stooping to this level in all of these areas: the push for a sex course, the cruise, the dinner at her house that she claims she's "100% here for" but she's probably secretly dreading and will get all of her friends and family to show up for to help buffer between her and all of the strangers who bought into this garbage. There needs to be a major audit of Legacy Collective. But someone needs to come alongside Jen and help her actually recover and heal and step out of the crazy for a minute.

It is sad. More like pathetic than deserving of sympathy. Jen, a highly educated person and self-identified leader is purposefully hawking unethical mental health services. If finances were the main driver of this lack of morals, I’d rather move back in with my parents than scam people. If this is just narcissistic greed, then she still deserves all the criticism.

i thought she was heard on some podcast talking about how rich she was. so which is it?

she's fake, a mess and a lair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes! The post above about how Jen made a big serious theological deal ( serious for her at least) about her new LGBT position, BUT- presto- now sex whenever is fine, no questions, no accompanying Bible study, no big announcement like she did with her daughter- it's just weird. And sad. You phrased it so well.
Never mind the sex- maybe a new study- " for the love of money"- would be most helpful here.

When you start “reinterpreting” aka rejecting the parts of the Bible you don’t like, eventually you reject all the verses. It happens over and over.

Jen always espoused a works-based gospel. That’s fundamentally what the Social Gospel, now rebranded Social Justice gospel, is. You pay for your salvation by how woke you are. It’s no different than sending a check to Joel Osteen, except the SJ gospel is much much judgier. The problem with both gospels is that first, they are lies based on lies perpetuated by liars. And second, they ALWAYS disappoint when life gets hard, which often leads to repugnance and anger with God. How could he let these bad things happen to me when I was so “good”.

The true gospel of JC says, you’re a hot mess, and you’ll never be able to fix it, which is why God had to send Jesus. The world is a hot mess and will only get worse. Accept that Jesus came to fix you, *not* the world, you will grow holier and that will change how you respond to it. But growing holy inherently means you have to stop sinning, and God defines what sin is, not the culture, and not you.

That last bit about sin is the stumbling block for many. But if you reject the I-don’t-get-to-define-what-sin-is part, the truth is, you’re just not that into Jesus after all.

He’s not your therapist, he’s not your guru, he’s not your bestie. He’s your LORD. He calls the shots and you trust that his ways are better than yours.

I don’t think Jen comprehends that.

Pure fire. 100%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes! The post above about how Jen made a big serious theological deal ( serious for her at least) about her new LGBT position, BUT- presto- now sex whenever is fine, no questions, no accompanying Bible study, no big announcement like she did with her daughter- it's just weird. And sad. You phrased it so well.
Never mind the sex- maybe a new study- " for the love of money"- would be most helpful here.

When you start “reinterpreting” aka rejecting the parts of the Bible you don’t like, eventually you reject all the verses. It happens over and over.

Jen always espoused a works-based gospel. That’s fundamentally what the Social Gospel, now rebranded Social Justice gospel, is. You pay for your salvation by how woke you are. It’s no different than sending a check to Joel Osteen, except the SJ gospel is much much judgier. The problem with both gospels is that first, they are lies based on lies perpetuated by liars. And second, they ALWAYS disappoint when life gets hard, which often leads to repugnance and anger with God. How could he let these bad things happen to me when I was so “good”.

The true gospel of JC says, you’re a hot mess, and you’ll never be able to fix it, which is why God had to send Jesus. The world is a hot mess and will only get worse. Accept that Jesus came to fix you, *not* the world, you will grow holier and that will change how you respond to it. But growing holy inherently means you have to stop sinning, and God defines what sin is, not the culture, and not you.

That last bit about sin is the stumbling block for many. But if you reject the I-don’t-get-to-define-what-sin-is part, the truth is, you’re just not that into Jesus after all.

He’s not your therapist, he’s not your guru, he’s not your bestie. He’s your LORD. He calls the shots and you trust that his ways are better than yours.

I don’t think Jen comprehends that.

I have seen this scenario play out a lot, with people who have come out of church, and joined the social justice gospel movement (not all of it is wrong)but I think that is why I have such a distaste for Jen and Glennon. It was a bait and switch. And women followed, this gospel replaced the other gospel. There is no firm line anymore. The truth doesn’t change. I’m trying to have compassion for them both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's comical- I think it's really sad. This is the kind of thing that leads up to a major breakdown of tragic suicide or something else like that. I feel sorry for Jen. If things were going well, she wouldn't be stooping to this level in all of these areas: the push for a sex course, the cruise, the dinner at her house that she claims she's "100% here for" but she's probably secretly dreading and will get all of her friends and family to show up for to help buffer between her and all of the strangers who bought into this garbage. There needs to be a major audit of Legacy Collective. But someone needs to come alongside Jen and help her actually recover and heal and step out of the crazy for a minute.

100% Disagree, this woman loves herself too much to cause herself any harm. All of this is for money! And attention of course, because it’s evident her boyfriend does not give her very much of that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, and it's my understanding that LC simply highlights other charities that are already in existence and send money to them. If you legit wanted to do good, you'd simply post a link to those chariots and connect people to them directly. This is just a fancy cash grab. The end.

As an intermediary, their admin costs should be lower. MUCH MUCH lower.

[Anonymous]

The real purpose of the The LeGrifty Collective is to amplify Jen’s brand and to allow her to be in the spotlight and be a Queenmaker and also comp lots of trips and dinners as business expenses.

[Anonymous]

It was be a bad feeling, #1 to know your mom is hawking dildos #2 to know this is what is paying your tuition. I feel bad for them.

[Anonymous]

How did ‘Jen Hatmaker buzz words’ go from being “faith, family, friends, fun, hilarious’ etc. to ‘dildos, excess, greed, fake, embarrassing’…SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes! The post above about how Jen made a big serious theological deal ( serious for her at least) about her new LGBT position, BUT- presto- now sex whenever is fine, no questions, no accompanying Bible study, no big announcement like she did with her daughter- it's just weird. And sad. You phrased it so well.
Never mind the sex- maybe a new study- " for the love of money"- would be most helpful here.

When you start “reinterpreting” aka rejecting the parts of the Bible you don’t like, eventually you reject all the verses. It happens over and over.

Jen always espoused a works-based gospel. That’s fundamentally what the Social Gospel, now rebranded Social Justice gospel, is. You pay for your salvation by how woke you are. It’s no different than sending a check to Joel Osteen, except the SJ gospel is much much judgier. The problem with both gospels is that first, they are lies based on lies perpetuated by liars. And second, they ALWAYS disappoint when life gets hard, which often leads to repugnance and anger with God. How could he let these bad things happen to me when I was so “good”.

The true gospel of JC says, you’re a hot mess, and you’ll never be able to fix it, which is why God had to send Jesus. The world is a hot mess and will only get worse. Accept that Jesus came to fix you, *not* the world, you will grow holier and that will change how you respond to it. But growing holy inherently means you have to stop sinning, and God defines what sin is, not the culture, and not you.

That last bit about sin is the stumbling block for many. But if you reject the I-don’t-get-to-define-what-sin-is part, the truth is, you’re just not that into Jesus after all.

He’s not your therapist, he’s not your guru, he’s not your bestie. He’s your LORD. He calls the shots and you trust that his ways are better than yours.

I don’t think Jen comprehends that.

Preach it, Sister! This is a very succinct but powerful statement of true Christianity.

[Anonymous]

Big sass did a tribute to Kobe. No i do not remembee where i wws when I heard the news. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Jen seems to think that faith in God/Christ exists so she can be happy. Basically, God exists to make people happy and make their dream come true and God is sort of the ultimate therapist in the sky.

So when life starts to suck or
your personal circumstances start to get wobbly so does your faith.

She probably never really had a real Christian faith.
The only question I have is Jen someone who fell away from the faith or is she actually a wolf in sheep’s clothing? The jury is still out.

Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.’