Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

You are not clear. The incident happened in the spring of 2023, Lively and Reynolds found out because the trainer told them that Baldoni had asked. And then Baldoni went to their apartment for a meeting and that's when Reynolds laid into him for it. All of this happened before the movie started filming.

I think people should keep in mind how Lively found out about that incident. Her trainer found the question inappropriate and told Lively and Reynolds because he found it inappropriate. You need to think about what it is like to be famous and have your appearance and weight scrutinized all the time, especially after having a baby. I would bet the trainer actually signed an NDA specifically about Lively's weight and health, because this would be considered valuable information to tabloids and gossip columnists. So from the Lively camp's perspective, this would be considered a big breach, for someone to ask for her weight, specifically, and to not ask directly but to ask someone she employs who might have weighed her for his job. That would be considered sensitive info that shouldn't be spread around.

I know Baldoni has presented this defense that he was asking because of this lift in the script. I honestly have no idea if that's true. It's plausible. But it's still a violation and that's not how he should have gone about it. I think it's odd that, being an actor and director himself and having worked in the business for a while, it wouldn't have occurred to him how inappropriate it would be to ask for that kind of information from her trainer. It would be like asking her housekeeper how much she drinks or asking her nanny how often she and her husband have sex -- gossip fodder that it would be a huge violation for any of those people to disclose.

Also we have no idea how the trainer conveyed this info to Lively and Reynolds. I am certain the trainer felt he had an obligation/duty to tell them and also probably wanted to make sure they knew he'd been asked but had not disclosed, in case Baldoni said anything about it. Baldoni put the trainer in a bad position by asking for that kind of confidential info. It is no surprise to me at all that Lively and Reynolds reacted very strongly.

No, it’s you that is not clear. The supposed fat shaming happened early 2023 in in prereproduction. The all hands meeting was January 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny how these things just "pop back up" like the other day when someone "discovered" that Heath is not white (which has not been a secret) and therefore "it all made sense." It's like a new thing every day. For a while it was the plantation wedding, then Harvey girl stuff, etc. Just seems to crop up out of nowhere, very organically, I'm sure.

That is horrible though and I was surprised to look up the stuntwoman's wikipedia and see nothing about a lawsuit from her family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joi_Harris

Jamie Heath is not a celebrity. It’s probably assumed he was white because he’s in a CEO position. It obviously never occurred to you or many of her defenders that he could’ve been a person of color. Hilarious that you think that is some kind of a defense.

[Anonymous]

Someone made this crazy timeline graphic. Looks like fat shaming incident and being yelled at both happened in April 2023.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1iy5nnq/good_faith_hr_responsibilities_with_a_timeline/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone made this crazy timeline graphic. Looks like fat shaming incident and being yelled at both happened in April 2023.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1iy5nnq/good_faith_hr_responsibilities_with_a_timeline/

Sounds like she had the 2 female ADs fired in separate incidents - do we know why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny how these things just "pop back up" like the other day when someone "discovered" that Heath is not white (which has not been a secret) and therefore "it all made sense." It's like a new thing every day. For a while it was the plantation wedding, then Harvey girl stuff, etc. Just seems to crop up out of nowhere, very organically, I'm sure.

That is horrible though and I was surprised to look up the stuntwoman's wikipedia and see nothing about a lawsuit from her family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joi_Harris

Jamie Heath is not a celebrity. It’s probably assumed he was white because he’s in a CEO position. It obviously never occurred to you or many of her defenders that he could’ve been a person of color. Hilarious that you think that is some kind of a defense.

PP. I knew about his race the whole time and this is the only source I read on this so it must have been mentioned. It was very obvious that his race was the day's talking point on reddit that made its way here to imply Slate was a racist Karen. Not my problem if people truly didn't know how to Google a photo of him months ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone made this crazy timeline graphic. Looks like fat shaming incident and being yelled at both happened in April 2023.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1iy5nnq/good_faith_hr_responsibilities_with_a_timeline/

Sounds like she had the 2 female ADs fired in separate incidents - do we know why?

Baldoni mentions it in his complaint but that's all he said - that she had them fired. No details.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

You are not clear. The incident happened in the spring of 2023, Lively and Reynolds found out because the trainer told them that Baldoni had asked. And then Baldoni went to their apartment for a meeting and that's when Reynolds laid into him for it. All of this happened before the movie started filming.

I think people should keep in mind how Lively found out about that incident. Her trainer found the question inappropriate and told Lively and Reynolds because he found it inappropriate. You need to think about what it is like to be famous and have your appearance and weight scrutinized all the time, especially after having a baby. I would bet the trainer actually signed an NDA specifically about Lively's weight and health, because this would be considered valuable information to tabloids and gossip columnists. So from the Lively camp's perspective, this would be considered a big breach, for someone to ask for her weight, specifically, and to not ask directly but to ask someone she employs who might have weighed her for his job. That would be considered sensitive info that shouldn't be spread around.

I know Baldoni has presented this defense that he was asking because of this lift in the script. I honestly have no idea if that's true. It's plausible. But it's still a violation and that's not how he should have gone about it. I think it's odd that, being an actor and director himself and having worked in the business for a while, it wouldn't have occurred to him how inappropriate it would be to ask for that kind of information from her trainer. It would be like asking her housekeeper how much she drinks or asking her nanny how often she and her husband have sex -- gossip fodder that it would be a huge violation for any of those people to disclose.

Also we have no idea how the trainer conveyed this info to Lively and Reynolds. I am certain the trainer felt he had an obligation/duty to tell them and also probably wanted to make sure they knew he'd been asked but had not disclosed, in case Baldoni said anything about it. Baldoni put the trainer in a bad position by asking for that kind of confidential info. It is no surprise to me at all that Lively and Reynolds reacted very strongly.

No, it’s you that is not clear. The supposed fat shaming happened early 2023 in in prereproduction. The all hands meeting was January 2024.

No, you are confused.

On April 22, 2023, Baldoni asked Lively's trainer what Lively weighed.
On April 25, 2023, Baldoni attended a meeting at Lively's and Reynold's apartment in which Reynolds accused Baldoni of fat shaming Lively.

Separately, there was an all-hands meeting in January 2024 in which ALL of Baldoni's and Heath's behavior was discussed and in which Reynolds reportedly also got quite heated. But that was a separate meeting.

All of this is in Justin's timeline. I thought all you Baldoni stans had "read all the documents" and that's why you are so confident that you know what happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

This is one of the strangest posts on this thread, which is really saying something. No, the trainer did not have an obligation to tell Blake that Justin asked how much she weighed so he could lift her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny how these things just "pop back up" like the other day when someone "discovered" that Heath is not white (which has not been a secret) and therefore "it all made sense." It's like a new thing every day. For a while it was the plantation wedding, then Harvey girl stuff, etc. Just seems to crop up out of nowhere, very organically, I'm sure.

That is horrible though and I was surprised to look up the stuntwoman's wikipedia and see nothing about a lawsuit from her family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joi_Harris

Jamie Heath is not a celebrity. It’s probably assumed he was white because he’s in a CEO position. It obviously never occurred to you or many of her defenders that he could’ve been a person of color. Hilarious that you think that is some kind of a defense.

Hmm, sort of. He's certainly not very famous. But he was a co-host of the Man Enough podcast which is available on YouTube and on their website. The podcasts YouTube feed has almost 84k followers. Anyone who has ever seen one of the podcast videos would know Heath was black or mixed race.

He's also in plenty of promotional photos from the premiere.

He's not famous like Lively is famous or even like Baldon is, but he's also not like a total unknown. I was surprised when people started saying "did you know Jamey Heath is black??" a week or two ago because... yes? I did? I'm surprised more people haven't checked out the Man Enough podcast specifically. Watching some of those videos is actually part of what made me think there is something to Lively's SH complaints because the vibe of them is weird -- it's presented as being very woke and feminist but actually Baldoni and Heath spend a lot of time trying to justify and explain bad behavior by men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

This is one of the strangest posts on this thread, which is really saying something. No, the trainer did not have an obligation to tell Blake that Justin asked how much she weighed so he could lift her.

You don't think Blake Lively's trainer has signed an NDA where he specifically agrees not to disclose personal health details about Lively, including and especially her weight? I assume there's actually a boilerplate celebrity NDA for trainers that specifies that info is off limits.

Otherwise why do you think the trainer's first move after Baldoni asked for the info was to contact Lively and Reynolds and let them know Baldoni had asked?

Some of you are not thinking critically about what happened here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

You are not clear. The incident happened in the spring of 2023, Lively and Reynolds found out because the trainer told them that Baldoni had asked. And then Baldoni went to their apartment for a meeting and that's when Reynolds laid into him for it. All of this happened before the movie started filming.

I think people should keep in mind how Lively found out about that incident. Her trainer found the question inappropriate and told Lively and Reynolds because he found it inappropriate. You need to think about what it is like to be famous and have your appearance and weight scrutinized all the time, especially after having a baby. I would bet the trainer actually signed an NDA specifically about Lively's weight and health, because this would be considered valuable information to tabloids and gossip columnists. So from the Lively camp's perspective, this would be considered a big breach, for someone to ask for her weight, specifically, and to not ask directly but to ask someone she employs who might have weighed her for his job. That would be considered sensitive info that shouldn't be spread around.

I know Baldoni has presented this defense that he was asking because of this lift in the script. I honestly have no idea if that's true. It's plausible. But it's still a violation and that's not how he should have gone about it. I think it's odd that, being an actor and director himself and having worked in the business for a while, it wouldn't have occurred to him how inappropriate it would be to ask for that kind of information from her trainer. It would be like asking her housekeeper how much she drinks or asking her nanny how often she and her husband have sex -- gossip fodder that it would be a huge violation for any of those people to disclose.

Also we have no idea how the trainer conveyed this info to Lively and Reynolds. I am certain the trainer felt he had an obligation/duty to tell them and also probably wanted to make sure they knew he'd been asked but had not disclosed, in case Baldoni said anything about it. Baldoni put the trainer in a bad position by asking for that kind of confidential info. It is no surprise to me at all that Lively and Reynolds reacted very strongly.

No, it’s you that is not clear. The supposed fat shaming happened early 2023 in in prereproduction. The all hands meeting was January 2024.

No, you are confused.

On April 22, 2023, Baldoni asked Lively's trainer what Lively weighed.
On April 25, 2023, Baldoni attended a meeting at Lively's and Reynold's apartment in which Reynolds accused Baldoni of fat shaming Lively.

Separately, there was an all-hands meeting in January 2024 in which ALL of Baldoni's and Heath's behavior was discussed and in which Reynolds reportedly also got quite heated. But that was a separate meeting.

All of this is in Justin's timeline. I thought all you Baldoni stans had "read all the documents" and that's why you are so confident that you know what happened?

Thanks for clearing that up. I must be thrown by all the times Ryan lost his temper and reamed Justin out, even though he had no connection to the movie at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

This is one of the strangest posts on this thread, which is really saying something. No, the trainer did not have an obligation to tell Blake that Justin asked how much she weighed so he could lift her.

You don't think Blake Lively's trainer has signed an NDA where he specifically agrees not to disclose personal health details about Lively, including and especially her weight? I assume there's actually a boilerplate celebrity NDA for trainers that specifies that info is off limits.

Otherwise why do you think the trainer's first move after Baldoni asked for the info was to contact Lively and Reynolds and let them know Baldoni had asked?

Some of you are not thinking critically about what happened here.

Assuming doesn't mean thinking critically. We have no way to know any of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

This is one of the strangest posts on this thread, which is really saying something. No, the trainer did not have an obligation to tell Blake that Justin asked how much she weighed so he could lift her.

You don't think Blake Lively's trainer has signed an NDA where he specifically agrees not to disclose personal health details about Lively, including and especially her weight? I assume there's actually a boilerplate celebrity NDA for trainers that specifies that info is off limits.

Otherwise why do you think the trainer's first move after Baldoni asked for the info was to contact Lively and Reynolds and let them know Baldoni had asked?

Some of you are not thinking critically about what happened here.

Assuming doesn't mean thinking critically. We have no way to know any of this.

Yup. Could have been just a gossip session. Who knows?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I’m really confused about is this fat shaming incident. It seemed to happen at the very beginning in preproduction when Justin was working with the mutual trainer, Don. from Blake’s telling of things, don was inappropriately asked by Justin about her weight.

But what I find so strange is that there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that that happened until the January 4 all hands meeting when Ryan screamed at Justin for fat shaming his wife. I’m just not clear, since Blake used her voice throughout this whole production, why that didn’t come up earlier? I mean she had a lot of power at the start of the film. She was the star being paid millions of dollars, she was an executive producer, which I understand is not as powerful as producer, but it is still something. she had control over the wardrobe. So she did have a voice as is clearly referenced, when she wanted the rooftop scene her way she was not afraid to ask and fight for that. And she wanted her wardrobe preferences she was fully able to push back against that. I’m just not sure why they didn’t address that weren’t frankly why she didn’t have her lawyers right in like they did with everything else she had a problem about.

I find it so odd that we’ve not seen one tax or any documentation of the fat shaming. I feel like if it got back to Justin that Blake felt fat shamed, looking at his other behaviors of making apologies for everything, I just don’t understand why there wasn’t a voice note or a text Explaining himself. And I think there isn’t one because it was not a thing until the January 4 meeting - he had no idea what happened because it wasn’t really a thing.

You are not clear. The incident happened in the spring of 2023, Lively and Reynolds found out because the trainer told them that Baldoni had asked. And then Baldoni went to their apartment for a meeting and that's when Reynolds laid into him for it. All of this happened before the movie started filming.

I think people should keep in mind how Lively found out about that incident. Her trainer found the question inappropriate and told Lively and Reynolds because he found it inappropriate. You need to think about what it is like to be famous and have your appearance and weight scrutinized all the time, especially after having a baby. I would bet the trainer actually signed an NDA specifically about Lively's weight and health, because this would be considered valuable information to tabloids and gossip columnists. So from the Lively camp's perspective, this would be considered a big breach, for someone to ask for her weight, specifically, and to not ask directly but to ask someone she employs who might have weighed her for his job. That would be considered sensitive info that shouldn't be spread around.

I know Baldoni has presented this defense that he was asking because of this lift in the script. I honestly have no idea if that's true. It's plausible. But it's still a violation and that's not how he should have gone about it. I think it's odd that, being an actor and director himself and having worked in the business for a while, it wouldn't have occurred to him how inappropriate it would be to ask for that kind of information from her trainer. It would be like asking her housekeeper how much she drinks or asking her nanny how often she and her husband have sex -- gossip fodder that it would be a huge violation for any of those people to disclose.

Also we have no idea how the trainer conveyed this info to Lively and Reynolds. I am certain the trainer felt he had an obligation/duty to tell them and also probably wanted to make sure they knew he'd been asked but had not disclosed, in case Baldoni said anything about it. Baldoni put the trainer in a bad position by asking for that kind of confidential info. It is no surprise to me at all that Lively and Reynolds reacted very strongly.

Fat shaming is telling the actress that her clothes are too tight or don't fit right with the implication that the problem is her weight. This is especially egregious and shaming if done in front of other people.

Fat shaming is not discreetly trying to find out someone's weight in order to avoid injuring the person and yourself. I am sorry it is ridiculous to claim trying to prepare to lift someone is "shaming" them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's kind of funny how these things just "pop back up" like the other day when someone "discovered" that Heath is not white (which has not been a secret) and therefore "it all made sense." It's like a new thing every day. For a while it was the plantation wedding, then Harvey girl stuff, etc. Just seems to crop up out of nowhere, very organically, I'm sure.

That is horrible though and I was surprised to look up the stuntwoman's wikipedia and see nothing about a lawsuit from her family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joi_Harris

Jamie Heath is not a celebrity. It’s probably assumed he was white because he’s in a CEO position. It obviously never occurred to you or many of her defenders that he could’ve been a person of color. Hilarious that you think that is some kind of a defense.

Hmm, sort of. He's certainly not very famous. But he was a co-host of the Man Enough podcast which is available on YouTube and on their website. The podcasts YouTube feed has almost 84k followers. Anyone who has ever seen one of the podcast videos would know Heath was black or mixed race.

He's also in plenty of promotional photos from the premiere.

He's not famous like Lively is famous or even like Baldon is, but he's also not like a total unknown. I was surprised when people started saying "did you know Jamey Heath is black??" a week or two ago because... yes? I did? I'm surprised more people haven't checked out the Man Enough podcast specifically. Watching some of those videos is actually part of what made me think there is something to Lively's SH complaints because the vibe of them is weird -- it's presented as being very woke and feminist but actually Baldoni and Heath spend a lot of time trying to justify and explain bad behavior by men.

I agree with this, also. Some of the podcasts sound like conversations between actually pretty socially conservative people trying to sound more progressive even though it kind of kills them a little to do so and is fitting a square peg into a round hole.

And honestly this fits into my view if their Bahai religion and the video I saw of Baldoni’s wife Emily conforming to rather conservative values but trying to make that look modern and progressive. Is she the breadwinner? No. She takes care of the kids and organizes the house. But it’s Very Important Work. (And that’s fine - it’s true, it is very important. But it’s also traditional and conservative.). And it fits into the comment I saw of Emily criticizing Justin, kindly, for not always being as feminist as he portrays himself to be.

This also fits into Baldoni’s desire to blame some of his communication problems on set to his neurodiversity - he basically admitted that he was saying inappropriate things on set but couldn’t really control himself — like the “normal women” give birth naked and asking Lively if she climaxed simultaneously with Reynolds, because he and Emily did all the time (wut wtf???). These things and the weight (plus the unannounced, unexpected kissing and nudity) are very intrusive invasions to anyone, but especially to a person with a lot of fame who appears in gossip rags a lot. Baldini crossed lines of familiarity in asking for this kind of personal info.

Maybe he was tricked into assuming intimacy through the perinium etc. jokes. But to me there was a difference here - the texts from Reynolds and Lively weren’t asking for an exchange of intimate info, like friends do. They used intimate language as humor but were mostly performative, and not exchange oriented. Whereas Baldoni kept trying to get very personal info out of Lively that she didn’t want to share, or once he had such into shared it with the whole set (she had never watched porn) in ways she found humiliating. To me, this seems to have been very difficult for Lively to work with without making bigger problems for herself.