FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

I completely agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Smh that there will still be kids at the sterling end of GF commuting 50 minutes to Langley…

Not sure you should expected any other outcome. Throwing middle class kids under the bus while protecting the wealthiest has been their modus operandi for a long time.

Counterpoint: or maybe the more objective consultant applying the school board’s own criteria saw straight through the absurdity of your argument to move other people’s kids for no good reason.

Someone caved. Not clear if it was Reid or the School Board. Reid claimed this review would be “transformative.” It’s anything but. Middle-class kids who live near an attendance island that no one cared about may get redistricted for a new map. Meanwhile, hundreds of seats at an expanded high school will go unfilled as we continue to bus rich kids all the way across the county to Langley.

This process has no integrity and will accomplish nothing. It prioritizes the trivial, yet ignores the elephant in the room.

If these maps hold, your hatred of your neighbors is going to eat you alive.

Touch grass.

Why do you keep saying "touch grass"?

It sounds so silly in the context of this discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

Herndon is under-enrolled now, just not below the arbitrary 60% pulled out of a hat to avoid adding kids to some schools with hundreds of empty seats.

There is almost exactly the same number of students at Herndon and Langley. Who cares how big they made the building. I don’t see an enrollment crisis for a school that has more than 2000 students. If projections hold, it might be a discussion to have in 5 years, but the focus of this review was over capacity schools.

[Anonymous]

SJWs gonna push equity. It’s what they do. Mental health of students be damned.

[Anonymous]

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

You keep forgetting that you would then have a school that would be way underenrolled. Now, please tell us how you would fill it.

I've asked this question repeatedly on this thread. Never get an answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

Herndon is under-enrolled now, just not below the arbitrary 60% pulled out of a hat to avoid adding kids to some schools with hundreds of empty seats. [/quote

They are under enrolled because 300 Kids Pupil Pllace out. But everyone who hates Langley wants to ignore that and just push Langley kids in to fill those seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

You keep forgetting that you would then have a school that would be way underenrolled. Now, please tell us how you would fill it.

I've asked this question repeatedly on this thread. Never get an answer.

If the objective were to remove modulars too, McLean and Marshall have even more students to shed. McLean is at 125% without modulars. They’d need to move an additional 200 students on top of the current proposal. So yes, they could fill Langley if they needed to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

You keep forgetting that you would then have a school that would be way underenrolled. Now, please tell us how you would fill it.

I've asked this question repeatedly on this thread. Never get an answer.

If the objective were to remove modulars too, McLean and Marshall have even more students to shed. McLean is at 125% without modulars. They’d need to move an additional 200 students on top of the current proposal. So yes, they could fill Langley if they needed to.

You just gotta let it go, sweetheart. The superintendent’s own no-bid consultant doesn’t agree with your extremist view.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

PP made an obvious typo (“to Langley” instead of “to Herndon”). But congrats on ignoring to try to twist PP’s post to make whatever point you want to make …

PP is correct re the capacity issues that would be created by moving GF from Langley. The 3 GF elementary schools (including Colvin Run) contribute ~55% of Langley’s student body. Approximately 300 Langley students, across the 4 HS grades, come specifically from the Forestville boundary. So even if you just move Forestville, that isn’t an easy gap to fill (and becomes more complex because — as PP said — there is a domino effect).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

If 2 schools have capacity, then you don't mive anyone.

Rezoning should only occur as a last resort to fix significant overcrowding, if requested by the community.

Rezoning should never occur "just because".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

If 2 schools have capacity, then you don't mive anyone.

Rezoning should only occur as a last resort to fix significant overcrowding, if requested by the community.

Rezoning should never occur "just because".

The equity warriors pretend that kids are interchangeable pawns.

It’s so gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

Herndon is under-enrolled now, just not below the arbitrary 60% pulled out of a hat to avoid adding kids to some schools with hundreds of empty seats.

There is almost exactly the same number of students at Herndon and Langley. Who cares how big they made the building. I don’t see an enrollment crisis for a school that has more than 2000 students. If projections hold, it might be a discussion to have in 5 years, but the focus of this review was over capacity schools.

If there are enough kids from elsewhere (currently zoned for McLean or Marshall I would guess) who get moved to Langley due to growth in the region, then yes - some tough decisions will have to be made re: the western edge of the Langley boundaries. But we just aren’t there yet. At this point if you sent Forestville to Herndon, you’d be leaving Langley very under-enrolled. This isn’t a change that needs to be made in this round. Maybe future reviews, but not right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live nowhere near Langley/Herndon and so it doesn’t affect me at all. But at this point, neither school is over-enrolled or under-enrolled. So why not just leave it alone for now? The kids at the far end of the county would have a big bus ride no matter where they went. Now if Langley was bursting at the seams and crying out for an expansion or modular classrooms, while Herndon sat at 75% capacity, I would say that people have a point and that the already available capacity needs to be used. But that’s not the situation at this point. It may be in the future if Langley has to pick up more kids that are closer to the school due to ongoing growth in Tyson’s … but we’re not there yet. BTW middle class areas got a boost for years on the east end of the county when West Potomac was expanded and had its borders expanded as well when MVHS sat well under capacity nearby. So this definitely isn’t a SES/protecting the rich school thing as plenty of people all over the economic spectrum live near West Potomac HS.

Herndon is under-enrolled now, just not below the arbitrary 60% pulled out of a hat to avoid adding kids to some schools with hundreds of empty seats.

There is almost exactly the same number of students at Herndon and Langley. Who cares how big they made the building. I don’t see an enrollment crisis for a school that has more than 2000 students. If projections hold, it might be a discussion to have in 5 years, but the focus of this review was over capacity schools.

The focus of the review was to comply with amended Policy 8130, which identified commute times and transportation costs as one of four key considerations.

But they punted and arbitrarily focused on schools over 105% capacity instead, along with addressing a few random attendance islands and split feeders that no one previously cared about. Under-capacity schools, on the other hand, were ignored.

They look like idiots for having amended Policy 8130 and then retaining a consultant who largely ignored and only selectively applied the revised policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've asked for this before:

Please show us how you would redo the boundaries. You can start by putting Great Falls in Herndon. Do that. And, then please figure out who goes to Langley, McLean, and Marshall. Go around the beltway adjacent schools all the way to Alexandria. Then, come back on the outside boundary of Fairfax.

I think you will find that if you send Great Falls to Langley, that you will create many, many problems that are not easily solved.

signed,

Parent who does not live in Great Falls or McLean

Yes, sending Great Falls to Langley has created problems that aren’t easily solved, starting with the sense of entitlement.

It’s obvious that, if two schools both have capacity, we should send kids to the closer school, in this case Herndon.

But, as PP suggested, it will probably take another five years to clean this up.

If 2 schools have capacity, then you don't mive anyone.

Rezoning should only occur as a last resort to fix significant overcrowding, if requested by the community.

Rezoning should never occur "just because".

You’ve just rewritten the revised policy that the School Board adopted last year. They could have adopted a policy that reflects your views. They didn’t. Nor do the Thru proposals align with what you’ve suggested. They’ve just targeted a few schools with parents who aren’t as wealthy as Langley.