New Ward 3 Homeless Families Shelter Site

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I truly wish this had been placed in Janney so we could see the hand-wringing from those folks. Eaton is always told to suck everything up. And now we're getting a renovation to coincide with the opening of this shelter because of its impact on the school when originally it was touted as having no impact because the children wouldn't be school-aged.

So which is it? School-aged children or not? In what broom closet should we place all these children? Eaton is also very overcrowded because Central Office forces it to take extra kids OOB and shoe-horn them in so that there's still a pipeline to better schools. Though why they do that yet took away the Deal feed is still mystifying if politically they still wanted a pipleline to Deal for people. And even with a renovation, there won't be more space for kids....there's nowhere for Eaton to expand.

There is no shortage of residents in Ward 3 who are quite happy to get on their high horse and lecture about "sharing the burden" of dealing with homelessness .... so long as they are not the ones having to do the sharing.

NW welcomes the opportunity to handle the burden of homeless. That is what Georgia Ave was created for

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I truly wish this had been placed in Janney so we could see the hand-wringing from those folks. Eaton is always told to suck everything up. And now we're getting a renovation to coincide with the opening of this shelter because of its impact on the school when originally it was touted as having no impact because the children wouldn't be school-aged.

So which is it? School-aged children or not? In what broom closet should we place all these children? Eaton is also very overcrowded because Central Office forces it to take extra kids OOB and shoe-horn them in so that there's still a pipeline to better schools. Though why they do that yet took away the Deal feed is still mystifying if politically they still wanted a pipleline to Deal for people. And even with a renovation, there won't be more space for kids....there's nowhere for Eaton to expand.

There is no shortage of residents in Ward 3 who are quite happy to get on their high horse and lecture about "sharing the burden" of dealing with homelessness .... so long as they are not the ones having to do the sharing.

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I'm. Curious what percentage of tax revenue DC raises is "shared" by NW residents, and why you feel they should have no opinion in that $ being efficiently and effectively spent to address city wide issues?

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

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There should be affordable housing built near the shelters so that people can stay in the neighborhoods they are placed in. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to displace families after they've stabilized.

FWIW, there was a post of PoPville about how the Columbia Heights residents are opposed to the new shelter that's going up there so this isn't just a ward 3 thing.

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

There's nothing like living about the parking lot of a police station to provide a respite from sirens.

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

There's nothing like living about the parking lot of a police station to provide a respite from sirens.

I see you got jokes.
Trust me the folks who live near police stations don't trip when the hear them - its background noise they block it out and don't pay it any mind because the patrol cars are going AWAY FROM THEM.
Conversely, people who don't live near police stations - especially in "bad areas" - the sound crawls up their spine and induces all kinds of anxiety because the patrol cars coming TOWARDS THEM.

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Anonymous wrote:There should be affordable housing built near the shelters so that people can stay in the neighborhoods they are placed in. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to displace families after they've stabilized.

FWIW, there was a post of PoPville about how the Columbia Heights residents are opposed to the new shelter that's going up there so this isn't just a ward 3 thing.

People in Ward 5 also are opposed, so yeah, trying to frame this as "those rich assholes in Ward 3 hate homeless people" is pretty, well, rich.

https://wamu.org/story/17/03/02/advocates-critics-d-c-s-planned-new-homeless-shelters-go-head-head-zoning-marathon/

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

You just must be kidding. You think a city run shelter in a more affordable neighborhood would be all drama dysfunction chaos sirens shooting and shouting? How much TV do you watch? You do know they are planning to build some there. Are they Doomed? And you think high ses neighborhoods are a "magic wand" and 6 months of "exposure" in a shelter there will rightsize anyone's life? It's like some sort of Swiss mountain spa? This is my real fear that this is the council and Chehs plan. Just put these families in a higher ses ward and don't worry about actually having any services. The magical air will just take its effects.??????????

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

You just must be kidding. You think a city run shelter in a more affordable neighborhood would be all drama dysfunction chaos sirens shooting and shouting? How much TV do you watch? You do know they are planning to build some there. Are they Doomed? And you think high ses neighborhoods are a "magic wand" and 6 months of "exposure" in a shelter there will rightsize anyone's life? It's like some sort of Swiss mountain spa? This is my real fear that this is the council and Chehs plan. Just put these families in a higher ses ward and don't worry about actually having any services. The magical air will just take its effects.??????????

Pop a Xanax and calm down.

#1 - I can have whatever opinion I want...I can think the Earth is flat, the moon is a giant marshmallow, and OJ didn't do it.
None of my supposition will affect your life in any way, shape, or form I guarantee you.

#2 - The "all 8 ward strategy" to address homelessness is going to happen - period.
None of your emotional objections or pretentious postulations will prevent the inevitable.

So take it down a notch because...
#3 - Social media ain't that serious.
Homelessness is.

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

You just must be kidding. You think a city run shelter in a more affordable neighborhood would be all drama dysfunction chaos sirens shooting and shouting? How much TV do you watch? You do know they are planning to build some there. Are they Doomed? And you think high ses neighborhoods are a "magic wand" and 6 months of "exposure" in a shelter there will rightsize anyone's life? It's like some sort of Swiss mountain spa? This is my real fear that this is the council and Chehs plan. Just put these families in a higher ses ward and don't worry about actually having any services. The magical air will just take its effects.??????????

This is basically like the DCPS philosophy of pretending to improve academic performance. Either put a cohort of high-achieving kids in a lackluster school, or put some high-risk kids in a higher performing school (but without the investment of resources to ensure that their learning needs are actually addressed), and viola! -- expect improving academic performance. But it usually doesn't work that way. It avoids the hard slog of improving education.

With Bowsers's decentralized shelter plan, she's never explained how the DC government -- which couldn't deliver even basic quality services to homeless families in one, centralized location -- will somehow be able to deliver better quality services in seven or eight new locations, with all of the inefficiencies and other challenges that decentralization brings.

Meanwhile developers are salivating at getting their hands on the DC General site. That may be Bowser's true plan here.

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

You just must be kidding. You think a city run shelter in a more affordable neighborhood would be all drama dysfunction chaos sirens shooting and shouting? How much TV do you watch? You do know they are planning to build some there. Are they Doomed? And you think high ses neighborhoods are a "magic wand" and 6 months of "exposure" in a shelter there will rightsize anyone's life? It's like some sort of Swiss mountain spa? This is my real fear that this is the council and Chehs plan. Just put these families in a higher ses ward and don't worry about actually having any services. The magical air will just take its effects.??????????

This is basically like the DCPS philosophy of pretending to improve academic performance. Either put a cohort of high-achieving kids in a lackluster school, or put some high-risk kids in a higher performing school (but without the investment of resources to ensure that their learning needs are actually addressed), and viola! -- expect improving academic performance. But it usually doesn't work that way. It avoids the hard slog of improving education.

With Bowsers's decentralized shelter plan, she's never explained how the DC government -- which couldn't deliver even basic quality services to homeless families in one, centralized location -- will somehow be able to deliver better quality services in seven or eight new locations, with all of the inefficiencies and other challenges that decentralization brings.

Meanwhile developers are salivating at getting their hands on the DC General site. That may be Bowser's true plan here.

Of course that's her true plan.
Isn't every elected official essentially Darth Sidious regardless of whether local, state or federal and regardless of party affiliation

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Anonymous wrote:There should be affordable housing built near the shelters so that people can stay in the neighborhoods they are placed in. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to displace families after they've stabilized.

FWIW, there was a post of PoPville about how the Columbia Heights residents are opposed to the new shelter that's going up there so this isn't just a ward 3 thing.

are you dense? Columbia Heights has the highest concentration of subsidized housing in the city. Public Housing, Section 8, including a homeless shelter and medical facility, permanent "supportive" housing for recovering addicts. Please tell me why Ward 3 thinks they are exempt from sharing a city wide burden. How many of you have signs in your yard stating that "all are welcome here" in multiple languages? Just as long as they aren't homeless. And to the poster who thinks its wrong to let poor folks live in Ward 3 for a few months since they won't be able to stay long term? What you are saying is "why let them see how nice our life is, it will only make them sad"- insert sad face emoji. WTF is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:And something else to consider is what will the children be doing? All the discussion of overcrowding at Eaton shows that Ward 3 residents think homeless families only have children under 10? What about the middle school and highschoolers? What's the city plan for providing them support (many of them no doubt have one parent who is absent and possibly adjudicated), academic delays, need for meaningful after school activities etc. What the operational plan once this shelter is IN? The BEST thing the city could do is start wooing neighbors including businesses to make creative partnerships. My understanding is the apartments don't have kitchens...(not sure how that encourages independence). Is the city partnering with Giant across the street to provide healthy food? With a local restaurant to provide cooking classes? Or at they jamming it in with zero partnership or follow up. I have not seen the 'vision' for how this is going to be different from any other failed DC shelter--just smaller and geographically spread apart. I'd like to see that. As a neighbor and as a taxpayer.

On John Eaton, (1) the shelter kids have to go to school somewhere; (2) the shelter will be within the Eaton zone; (3) other area schools like Janney are overcrowded and have no room, and the shelter kids would likely feel out of place in a more demographically homogeneous environment. Eaton is already diverse. Just suck it up, Eaton. You'll be ok.

I am questioning the assumption they will all be elementary aged. Surely there will be middle and high schoolers as well who also need support and supervision - especially if mom or dad is at work or in school. And especially if they have any accompanying needs from the trauma of their family displacement and or the issues that led to it.

Still to be answered is what happens to children of families after they leave the shelter. First of all, while DC plans the shelter to be for temporary stays, left unsaid is what happens if the family unit hasn't found suitable accommodations within 6-8 months. Presumably they will stay. But even as they leave the shelter, as at-risk students, the children at Eaton will have the right to continue at Eaton if the family wishes. They also then will be in the feeder pattern for Hardy and eventually Wilson. It's unlikely that a family will be able to find affordable housing in Ward 3 after they leave the shelter. However, even if they re-locate elsewhere in the city, given the chance for their kids to attend a good elementary school and eventually a good high school, why wouldn't a parent logically consider that option? The result could be over time that, even as there's regular turnover at the shelter, the number of at-risk kids at Eaton will steadily grow. Eaton will need the resources to deal with associated specialized learning needs and to assess what this could mean for enrollment planning.

It seems odd to me to place a family for 6-8 months in a neighborhood they won't afford to live in, if the long term goal is stability. Puzzle me that, Mary Cheh.

May not afford to live in that community long term but maybe those 6-8 months of exposure to that stable environment will give them the firsthand knowledge of what sound structured communities consist of along with a few months of peace of mind and reprieve from drama and chaos that will allow them to focus on getting themselves together and get a recovery plan in order as opposed to putting them in some shithole neighborhood where they're besieged by dysfunction and drama and chaos all around them and no opportunity to exhale for a few seconds to get their lives in order because they're too busy stressing about all the shouting, sirens, shootings, etc.

You just must be kidding. You think a city run shelter in a more affordable neighborhood would be all drama dysfunction chaos sirens shooting and shouting? How much TV do you watch? You do know they are planning to build some there. Are they Doomed? And you think high ses neighborhoods are a "magic wand" and 6 months of "exposure" in a shelter there will rightsize anyone's life? It's like some sort of Swiss mountain spa? This is my real fear that this is the council and Chehs plan. Just put these families in a higher ses ward and don't worry about actually having any services. The magical air will just take its effects.??????????

This is basically like the DCPS philosophy of pretending to improve academic performance. Either put a cohort of high-achieving kids in a lackluster school, or put some high-risk kids in a higher performing school (but without the investment of resources to ensure that their learning needs are actually addressed), and viola! -- expect improving academic performance. But it usually doesn't work that way. It avoids the hard slog of improving education.

With Bowsers's decentralized shelter plan, she's never explained how the DC government -- which couldn't deliver even basic quality services to homeless families in one, centralized location -- will somehow be able to deliver better quality services in seven or eight new locations, with all of the inefficiencies and other challenges that decentralization brings.

Meanwhile developers are salivating at getting their hands on the DC General site. That may be Bowser's true plan here.

You can keep making this inane point on here and I will keep posting the same response - it will be a big net positive for the city and the neighborhood around DC General if developers get their hands on the DC General site and re-develop it into something productive that creates housing and generates tax revenues for the City. Do you want to take the time to respond and explain why that is bad? Since you live in Ward 3 and strike me as an insecure NIMBY you should be yelling and screaming as loud as you can from your in-fill balcony in McLean Gardens for the city to do this since you would probably fight new housing in your own neighborhood.