Jefferson Academy Kool-Aid

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It's pretty solidly gentrified before 17th. And unlike the PPs, I actually live here.

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear: only a small part of Maury (10th-13th or so) isn't in far hill east. The bulk of Maury (13th-21st/the river) is hill east and relatively affordable.

There is almost no inventory for this area. Secondly this area newly became part of Maury. Third, the far Hill East really begins after 17th. Finally it's not affordable if you want a larger house close to the school. I love these fantasyland real estate posts.

So FHE (Far Hill East) consists of a few blocks bounded by 17th, Potomac, 19th and C St NE?

No. Most people consider East of 14th FHE.

I thought anything east of Lincoln Park was labeled FHE or new Hill East, or whatever.

I've heard both 13th (east end of LP) and 14th described as the beginning of Hill East (I assume the line has sort of moved in colloquial terms as the "solidly gentrified" line has moved as over the past 5ish years from 13th to 14th). In either case, it's definitely not 17th st. as one PP claimed.

It used to be a catchall for anything outside the historic district to the east, but I've heard it used for anything east of 8th St. too. 15-20 years ago real estate agents coined the area north of the historic district 'Cap Hill North' until H St became hot and that became the more apt designation. These designation are all somewhat artificial and short change actual distinct neighborhoods like Barney Circle or Kingman Park

Longtime residents (50+ years) will tell you that even Eastern Market was never considered part of Capitol Hill. Same with Stanton Park and Lincoln Park. We don't even need to talk about Kingman Park or Rosedale.

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear: only a small part of Maury (10th-13th or so) isn't in far hill east. The bulk of Maury (13th-21st/the river) is hill east and relatively affordable.

There is almost no inventory for this area. Secondly this area newly became part of Maury. Third, the far Hill East really begins after 17th. Finally it's not affordable if you want a larger house close to the school. I love these fantasyland real estate posts.

So FHE (Far Hill East) consists of a few blocks bounded by 17th, Potomac, 19th and C St NE?

No. Most people consider East of 14th FHE.

I thought anything east of Lincoln Park was labeled FHE or new Hill East, or whatever.

I've heard both 13th (east end of LP) and 14th described as the beginning of Hill East (I assume the line has sort of moved in colloquial terms as the "solidly gentrified" line has moved as over the past 5ish years from 13th to 14th). In either case, it's definitely not 17th st. as one PP claimed.

It used to be a catchall for anything outside the historic district to the east, but I've heard it used for anything east of 8th St. too. 15-20 years ago real estate agents coined the area north of the historic district 'Cap Hill North' until H St became hot and that became the more apt designation. These designation are all somewhat artificial and short change actual distinct neighborhoods like Barney Circle or Kingman Park

Longtime residents (50+ years) will tell you that even Eastern Market was never considered part of Capitol Hill. Same with Stanton Park and Lincoln Park. We don't even need to talk about Kingman Park or Rosedale.

but you're talking pre-historic district (no pun intended) and there aren't that many old timers of that provenance on the Hill. A lot of what's considered Cap Hill even in the historic district is technically "Old City" on the map

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Jefferson principal going to central office. https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/3dAim0KphDyUnYlWjZcaxoVZK2MHOsXAzyReWGOabmWxzivv.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Jefferson principal going to central office. https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/3dAim0KphDyUnYlWjZcaxoVZK2MHOsXAzyReWGOabmWxzivv.pdf

And is it any wonder that Brent families have no faith in DCPS!!

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Anonymous wrote:Jefferson principal going to central office. https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/3dAim0KphDyUnYlWjZcaxoVZK2MHOsXAzyReWGOabmWxzivv.pdf

And is it any wonder that Brent families have no faith in DCPS!!

That's going to be a tough job to fill. Principals are paid exceedingly well, but does that override the immense professional challenge of succeeding at a place like Jefferson?

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darn it. I am strongly considering Jefferson but a big reason for that was my faith in the principal. I will try to be actively involved in the public part of the search process and continue taking things year by year.

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Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

you do realize the school does not exist on the glimmer of hope that Brent students will save it? They serve the students who enroll.

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Anonymous wrote:Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

you do realize the school does not exist on the glimmer of hope that Brent students will save it? They serve the students who enroll.

For real, it's not only Brent going to Jefferson.

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Anonymous wrote:Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

you do realize the school does not exist on the glimmer of hope that Brent students will save it? They serve the students who enroll.

For real, it's not only Brent going to Jefferson.

Gordon certainly has been working overtime to try and recruit Brent alums. Nevertheless, with proficiency levels being what they are I'm not sure how much serving is being done with suspension and absentee rates that surpass the city averages.

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Anonymous wrote:Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

you do realize the school does not exist on the glimmer of hope that Brent students will save it? They serve the students who enroll.

They serve the students who enroll.

Or they don't, as in the case of DCPS who despite the highest per pupil spending in the country, can not figure out how to educate the majority of poor children to achieve at grade level. Instead, they engage in social promotion and continue the cycle of poverty, underemployment and functional illiteracy.

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If DCPS wants poor kids to achieve at or above grade level in neighborhood middle schools, school system leaders must harness every readily available resource to help them. Hundreds of young high SES families in a school's catchment area are a finite resource that could be harnessed if ed planners incentivized well-educated parents to enroll their children, and stay in the program for several years. Serving only those who enroll is not just short-sighted in the extreme, it's criminal, with poor kids as the biggest losers (by a long shot).

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Anonymous wrote:If DCPS wants poor kids to achieve at or above grade level in neighborhood middle schools, school system leaders must harness every readily available resource to help them. Hundreds of young high SES families in a school's catchment area are a finite resource that could be harnessed if ed planners incentivized well-educated parents to enroll their children, and stay in the program for several years. Serving only those who enroll is not just short-sighted in the extreme, it's criminal, with poor kids as the biggest losers (by a long shot).

I agree that DCPS should also cater to at and above grade level students, please don't pretend that's a fix for poor kids who are falling behind. I guarantee you that my kids aura does not solve poverty and neglect.

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Anonymous wrote:Her departure is neither here nor there for me. No principal, no matter how strong, can make a middle school with proficiency pass rates in the teens and twenties work for an elementary school population with one of the highest proficiency pass rates in the city (and rising as high SES lower grades families steadily replace low SES higher grades families) without a full menu of at grade-level classes already in place. Things are going to have to get worse at Jefferson before the school could be reinvented to serve Brent, a lot worse.

you do realize the school does not exist on the glimmer of hope that Brent students will save it? They serve the students who enroll.

They serve the students who enroll.

Or they don't, as in the case of DCPS who despite the highest per pupil spending in the country, can not figure out how to educate the majority of poor children to achieve at grade level. Instead, they engage in social promotion and continue the cycle of poverty, underemployment and functional illiteracy.

you may disagree on effectiveness of educating students at Jefferson or scores of other schools but the focus is on educating the students they have not the hypothetical students they do not.