Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

I think many people have posted on here that perhaps for those LD kids, a watered down set of standards would be beneficial.

[Anonymous]

According to the 2007 (pre Common Core) California Academic Performance Index, research show that 57% of students failed the California Standards Test in English.
- There are six million students in the California school system and 25% of those students are unable to perform basic reading skills

And, I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the immigrant children who arrive at school not speaking English. Some enter in higher grades without ever having been in school. Truancy and mobility are also a problem.

[Anonymous]

CC places a pretty big emphasis on teaching students critical thinking and analytical skills and helping students develop those skills -

Sure it does. As long as you agree with the critical thinking skills approved of by the CC developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

Common Core doesn't "exclude" and it does in fact take the lack of critical thinking - in fact, CC places a pretty big emphasis on teaching students critical thinking and analytical skills and helping students develop those skills -

http://novemberlearning.com/educational-resources-for-educators/understanding-common-core-state-standards/

http://www.corestandards.org/what-parents-should-know/

http://www.edutopia.org/blog/common-core-in-action-critical-thinking-questioning-heather-wolpert-gawron

Bull Fucking SHIT! This is what is SUPPOSED to happen but its not happening. Just because something is written does not make it so! And you're completely ignoring the fact that many of these kids with weak critical thinking skills are older, they are not in 1st or 2nd grade thus having the opportunity to have these fancy new standards ingrained in them. They are trying to force these kids to drop everything that they know....just erase it, forget what and how things had been taught to them for the past 6 yrs. This is wrong, nothing you say, and certainly nothing coming from anything ending in DOT ORG will change my mind. I am on the front lines of this honey - most likely YOU are not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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a result of the lousy or in some cases non-existent standards, lack of metrics, and lack of accountability that existed PRIOR to Common Core.

Oh now THAT is a huge crock of SHIT and you know it! What the hell are you talking about? If that were the case there would not be this kind of backlash - and just on DCUM. This is a nationwide backlash. So what you're telling us is that 75% of the country - the anti-CC crowd, has it all wrong. That we are just ignorant and didn't realize that the previous system was so messed up?! I could understand a fair amount of clueless parents but NOT clueless teachers.

Let me guess, you work for the Gates Foundation, or you own a fair amount of worthless Microsoft stock.

I'd like to see some data supporting the idea that 75% of the country opposes the Common Core standards. Actually, I'd also like to see some data supporting the idea that 75% of the country knows what the Common Core standards are (and "a socialist government takeover of our children's freedom" does not count as a correct answer).

But yes, it's quite possible that 75% of the country has it all wrong. It wouldn't be the only case. For example, 73% of the country believes either that God created human beings in their present form or that God guided human evolution.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

Well you just showed your ass PP. You're despicable truly. Out of the mouths of Atheists....

This is not PP - but still interested to see the supporting data for that 75% of the country is anti-CC.

[Anonymous]

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/08/20/common-core-support-waning-most-now-oppose-standards-national-surveys-show

Not the PP who said 75%--but it appears to be getting there fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/08/20/common-core-support-waning-most-now-oppose-standards-national-surveys-show

Not the PP who said 75%--but it appears to be getting there fast.

Thanks. I was on board at first. And I'm not sure if its the standards or the implementation that is the problem - but I've reached my tipping point. DD is in first grade and is just not understanding the math. I know plenty of people on DCUM think its too easy but that is not our experience.

[Anonymous]

The standards do not "build" from the known to the unknown in math. I have problems with that. That is the best way to help kids develop math skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/08/20/common-core-support-waning-most-now-oppose-standards-national-surveys-show

Not the PP who said 75%--but it appears to be getting there fast.

I'm the PP who said 75%...which I used as an approximate - which was not far off.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/09/growing-opposition-common-core-iowa/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-oppose-common-core-standards-poll/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/common-core-educational-standards-are-losing-support-nationwide-poll-shows/2014/08/19/67b1f20c-27cb-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/18/ednext-2014-survey_n_5688376.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/08/19/poll-common-core-support-among-teachers-plummets-with-fewer-than-half-supporting-it/

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/10/28/gallup-more-parents-now-oppose-common-core-standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

Common Core doesn't "exclude" and it does in fact take the lack of critical thinking - in fact, CC places a pretty big emphasis on teaching students critical thinking and analytical skills and helping students develop those skills -

http://novemberlearning.com/educational-resources-for-educators/understanding-common-core-state-standards/

http://www.corestandards.org/what-parents-should-know/

http://www.edutopia.org/blog/common-core-in-action-critical-thinking-questioning-heather-wolpert-gawron

Bull Fucking SHIT! This is what is SUPPOSED to happen but its not happening. Just because something is written does not make it so! And you're completely ignoring the fact that many of these kids with weak critical thinking skills are older, they are not in 1st or 2nd grade thus having the opportunity to have these fancy new standards ingrained in them. They are trying to force these kids to drop everything that they know....just erase it, forget what and how things had been taught to them for the past 6 yrs. This is wrong, nothing you say, and certainly nothing coming from anything ending in DOT ORG will change my mind. I am on the front lines of this honey - most likely YOU are not.

Again, the older kids who don't have critical thinking skills got that way BEFORE Common Core, nimrod!

You seem to be suffering from some idiotic delusion that we should all be disappointed that one year of Common Core didn't erase a prior decade's worth of lousy standards and lousy curriculum that never taught those kids any critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The standards do not "build" from the known to the unknown in math. I have problems with that. That is the best way to help kids develop math skills.

You are quite obviously completely unfamiliar with the CC standards, to be saying that. http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

[Anonymous]

You are quite obviously completely unfamiliar with the CC standards, to be saying that. http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

You obviously do not teach math to young children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

I think many people have posted on here that perhaps for those LD kids, a watered down set of standards would be beneficial.

I disagree. Watering down curriculum for most children with LD does them a gross disservice and has been and continues to be a problem in education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You are quite obviously completely unfamiliar with the CC standards, to be saying that. http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

You obviously do not teach math to young children.

The math in the Common Core math standards in the young grades is very similar to the math in Singapore Math. Maybe nobody in Singapore used the (then-)national curriculum to teach math to children in the young grades?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has it occurred to anyone on this thread that those of us with children who have LDs already have enough of an uphill battle on our hands. Introducing a new set of "Not-well thought-out, Not-well-executed, Exclusionary Standards" - and by Exclusionary I mean that the standards do not take into account that many of our kids are poor critical thinkers - for the time being that is - and introducing THAT requirement as part of the math curricuulum is a crime! The ones who do not understand this are the ones who's kids are floating through school without any major or even minor hiccups.

These standards are SEGREGATING our children even more than they already are!! Yes - SEGREGATION, I said it!!

I think many people have posted on here that perhaps for those LD kids, a watered down set of standards would be beneficial.

I disagree. Watering down curriculum for most children with LD does them a gross disservice and has been and continues to be a problem in education.

But most of the posts on here from parents of LD kids don't seem to feel that way. I think there are varying degrees of LDs, and some kids might be ok with a curriculum based on CC standards, but perhaps a lot are not. I don't know. I don't have a kid with an LD.