Official Ebola update thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that in some people the Ebola virus seems to cause a more progressive and violent disease compared to others. They were showing a video of Nurse Pham this morning and she looked okay (was able to talk, wave etc.). I read that the other nurse is very ill. While critically stable, it seems that the disease is progressing faster in her. I wonder what makes Ebola progress faster in some people vs. others. The doctor and his missionary assistant who were treated at Emory also seemed to have a 'milder' version of the disease while Thomas Duncan succumbed to Ebola in a terrible way within one week of being admitted to the hospital.

Probably has to do with how quickly they got treated. Pham admitted herself very quickly.

Agreed. Also, some people can quickly make antibodies for it and some cannot.

I read in an article on nurses in Liberia. One said the patients who got the hiccups don't survive. I wonder why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that in some people the Ebola virus seems to cause a more progressive and violent disease compared to others. They were showing a video of Nurse Pham this morning and she looked okay (was able to talk, wave etc.). I read that the other nurse is very ill. While critically stable, it seems that the disease is progressing faster in her. I wonder what makes Ebola progress faster in some people vs. others. The doctor and his missionary assistant who were treated at Emory also seemed to have a 'milder' version of the disease while Thomas Duncan succumbed to Ebola in a terrible way within one week of being admitted to the hospital.

Probably has to do with how quickly they got treated. Pham admitted herself very quickly.

Pham received plasma front Brantly very early in her treatment which probably helped. Or maybe the worst is still coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that in some people the Ebola virus seems to cause a more progressive and violent disease compared to others. They were showing a video of Nurse Pham this morning and she looked okay (was able to talk, wave etc.). I read that the other nurse is very ill. While critically stable, it seems that the disease is progressing faster in her. I wonder what makes Ebola progress faster in some people vs. others. The doctor and his missionary assistant who were treated at Emory also seemed to have a 'milder' version of the disease while Thomas Duncan succumbed to Ebola in a terrible way within one week of being admitted to the hospital.

Probably has to do with how quickly they got treated. Pham admitted herself very quickly.

+1. This is why Duncan's initial rejection by the hospital was so tragic. The man might have had a chance had he been admitted earlier.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My opinion of DCUM posters has never been so low.

Why?

New poster--this thread is appalling to me. Posters seem to be actively rooting for an Ebola outbreak in this country because it would make President Obama look bad. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Very much like Bush and Kartrina

Only this is much more serious and incompetent .

Nearly 2,000 deaths versus 1. How is this "much more serious"?

The biggest challenge the Obama administration faces is the unnecessary hysteria being generated.

Katrina doesn't continue to spread. Jesus, Jeff, do you get paid off?

[Anonymous]

Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

Please don't add this to the hysteria. The Nigerian man was an american citizen who was on his way home to the US after a visit to Nigeria. As you will come to find out, he did not die of Ebola.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed that in some people the Ebola virus seems to cause a more progressive and violent disease compared to others. They were showing a video of Nurse Pham this morning and she looked okay (was able to talk, wave etc.). I read that the other nurse is very ill. While critically stable, it seems that the disease is progressing faster in her. I wonder what makes Ebola progress faster in some people vs. others. The doctor and his missionary assistant who were treated at Emory also seemed to have a 'milder' version of the disease while Thomas Duncan succumbed to Ebola in a terrible way within one week of being admitted to the hospital.

Doctors have long said they don't know who will recover and who will succumb. They've known that different people respond very differently to the virus.

Agreed. I think it's the same as any disease. Some people have good immune systems and can fight off things better, some people have undiagnosed issues that make it harder for them to fight it, some don't have as healthy as a system as others (asthma, drinker, smoker, etc) which likely causes the virus to be able to take over more than someone who was in picture perfect health.

I think overall health has a lot to do with it, but also it really seems early diagnosis and treatment make a difference - it looks like the earlier it's caught, the better chance you have. Or maybe some people's bodies are just better equipped for this particular virus - so one healthy person has a better chance of surviving than another. I mean, if you look at West Africa, where people do not get any much treatment at this point, the death rate is still not 100% but 70% which means a little under 1/3 of those infected manage to fight it off with no medical assistance at all. Maybe they should study how and why this happens as a way to find a cure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

That poor guy. I'm sure no one got near him after he started vomiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

I want to hear more about this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

It's off topic since he didn't have ebola?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My opinion of DCUM posters has never been so low.

Why?

New poster--this thread is appalling to me. Posters seem to be actively rooting for an Ebola outbreak in this country because it would make President Obama look bad. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

No. This is not about Obama. But he is our leader make bad decisions. People have enough to deal with on this planet. Look at all the things that society continues to let happen.
Terrorism
Domestic Violence, Violence against Women and Children
Rape
Drunk Driving
Alcoholism, Binge Drinking, Drug Use
School Shootings and Gun Violence
Robberies
Bullying
and hundreds of other diseases that cause illness and death
So when people see a new deadly disease that is now be allowed into this country with false statements that we can handle it people just feel pushed over the edge. An Ebola pandemic is not something we want to add to our list. There are better ways to keep it out of the US while helping Africa.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

Please post messages like this in website feedback so that this thread does not get derailed (as it would have been by posting a message about a guy who didn't have ebola).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

I want to hear more about this!

Here you go:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/17/rep-peter-king-serious-concerns-about-nigerian-passenger-who-reportedly-vomited-died-on-flight-to-jfk/

[Anonymous]

NP here -- is anyone else concerned more about the impact on our healthcare system than actually getting ebola on a personal level?

I'm not actually scared that I personally will get ebola, but if we have enough cases in the US that then leads to healthcare workers being quarantined (not to mention many underpaid overworked nurses may just quit all together), we could end up with a shortage of medical professionals to treat other hospital patients. To me, this seems like the bigger issue.

Also, I'm sick of people comparing ebola to the flu. Most healthy people can combat it on their own and we have a vaccine to prevent it. There is no ebola vaccine and a healthy person can't control whether they come in contact with someone who has ebola on a plane, elevator, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?

It's off topic since he didn't have ebola?

When it shuts down a plane and costs 25K in cleanup and testing....Throwing up on a plane is about Ebola.

everything has changed.