The Belle Burden‘s Strangers book would paint the other angle for the value in attending. Clearly her ex-husband got benefits from attending that wouldn’t be possible from going to Stuy. |
Sounds like an excellent choice all around! (is your child at HM? asking b/c that mirrors friends' experiences there). |
maybe you are friends IRL |
They are at a SS school. We hear there are kids who are struggling with grades so clearly it’s not for everyone. You know your kids. Finding the right “fit” for them and for your family situation is key. |
Source: it was an article I can't find now but its source was the [url=https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/compare?toggle=institutions&s=166027&s=215062&s=130794&s=217156&s=182670&s=190415&s=190150&s=186131 ]DOE scorecard[/url] looking specifically at earnings for federal financial aid recipients. And it was indeed medians. The question with tail outcomes is whether those people would have succeeded anyway - a continuation of the "would they have gotten into Harvard anyway" problem with high schools; if Ivies are desirable then naturally they're going to get disproportionately many uber-wealthy / connected / extraordinarily talented kids, it doesn't mean that they had much of anything to do with those kids' future prosperity. It seems like for most people an Ivy is mainly valuable because it gives you a boost in networking, particularly when finding your first job out of college; I don't think anybody's suggesting that somehow the quality of the teaching faculty at Harvard is so much better than a typical college as to produce a meaningful boost in your future income. |
I thought half her schtick was being raised rich while he was from the boonies and grew up poor, so once he got money and settled into it he cheated and went wild spending. |
He didn’t grow up poor. He’s from a very waspy family. Obviously she’s in a different category of wealth but he was definitely not poor. |
Where’d he go to HS? Bill clinton is technically a wasp. She made it seem like he was born in a barn in the middle of nowhere |
he grew up financially secure and then insecure - that was part of his whole thing. he got benefits by marrying her |
Episcopal -> Buckley -> Groton. She claims his family was going broke and still paying the tuition. He regained the fortune through her wealth and connections. |
I know a new kid who got a Point 72 this summer, summer after freshman year of college. which is insane and not based on merit. you could say that's not a real internship since Point 72 doesnt do real ones that early, and I'd agree to a point. But it's an internship and it's at Point 71 and even if he's shadowing someone or making coffee, it's on his resume and AI will crawl that and pick out his resume for the next 15 years |
Is Groton even that good at this point? |
A friend of a friend of my child recently interned at one of these three firms while in HS. I don't know what the "internship" entailed. They did not get this internship because of their off the charts intellect - I'm sure they are bright but still. It was all about daddy. |
Wow. I'm the poster just above this. I guess there are multiple nepo kids at Point 72. |
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Former Brearley parent. Year after year about 25% of class goes to HYPS. With those in particular, it is a lot of legacy, but plenty of normal legacies. Only about 1/3 maybe get into their early schools so most of what you see is not legacy. Plenty of fancy families but plenty of regular families
Other kid went to a different TT with great results as well but not quite the same. Honestly, I can’t explain why colleges love Brearley so much. But I can say that these results are not reducible to hooks, which are common at all these schools. It plays a role, but the unhooked are doing fine as well. |