Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

They are trying to do it after school hours so kids are at home.

This. They’ve canceled HS Friday sports events. Business closed down. This is a big friggin deal.

Basically, it sounds like a torture video. It’s over 60 minutes of footage.

Where? In Memphis, businesses closed down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why do they even have to make it public. I mean i know there has to be accountability and transparency - but really do any of us need to see it?

Yes. For accountability and transparency it is important that this footage is made public.

The release of video—good or bad? I don’t know. I wonder if the conspiracy minded get off on the violence?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

They are not charged with first degree murder. There is a difference.

They will be

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.

Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

What about Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean?

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Twitter and mainstream media has convinced you that you know what is really going on. You have NO IDEA

Why do you keep calling it cherry picking. People are stating absolutes. Follow the rules and you won't be killed. Pointing out lies isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out that someone is wrong.

Here's a pro tip for people whose knowledge of law enforcement is limited to angrily searching up stuff on the internet. The reason this is a big case is because there are a million cops who take people into custody on a daily basis without incident. You will never see the thousands of incidents where officers use force responsibly or don't use sufficient force, which is also a problem.

A million?
No.
What we know is 1/100 use force and that’s too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.

Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

What about Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean?

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Twitter and mainstream media has convinced you that you know what is really going on. You have NO IDEA

Why do you keep calling it cherry picking. People are stating absolutes. Follow the rules and you won't be killed. Pointing out lies isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out that someone is wrong.

Here's a pro tip for people whose knowledge of law enforcement is limited to angrily searching up stuff on the internet. The reason this is a big case is because there are a million cops who take people into custody on a daily basis without incident. You will never see the thousands of incidents where officers use force responsibly or don't use sufficient force, which is also a problem.

Anyone who saw the Paul Pelosi video, also yesterday, saw the problem of less than sufficient force. Stop talking in absolutes and maybe we can have a productive conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.

Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

What about Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean?

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Twitter and mainstream media has convinced you that you know what is really going on. You have NO IDEA

Why do you keep calling it cherry picking. People are stating absolutes. Follow the rules and you won't be killed. Pointing out lies isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out that someone is wrong.

Here's a pro tip for people whose knowledge of law enforcement is limited to angrily searching up stuff on the internet. The reason this is a big case is because there are a million cops who take people into custody on a daily basis without incident. You will never see the thousands of incidents where officers use force responsibly or don't use sufficient force, which is also a problem.

Anyone who saw the Paul Pelosi video, also yesterday, saw the problem of less than sufficient force. Stop talking in absolutes and maybe we can have a productive conversation.

I’m not so sure about insufficiency, but their timing sure was lousy, as in a day late and a dollar short.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.

Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

What about Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean?

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Twitter and mainstream media has convinced you that you know what is really going on. You have NO IDEA

Why do you keep calling it cherry picking. People are stating absolutes. Follow the rules and you won't be killed. Pointing out lies isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out that someone is wrong.

Here's a pro tip for people whose knowledge of law enforcement is limited to angrily searching up stuff on the internet. The reason this is a big case is because there are a million cops who take people into custody on a daily basis without incident. You will never see the thousands of incidents where officers use force responsibly or don't use sufficient force, which is also a problem.

A million?
No.
What we know is 1/100 use force and that’s too much.

What percentage of apprehended people are potentially violent or acting aggressive or may flee, ie out of control?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most innocent people get killed by cops for not following instructions.

When I was 29 I was driving a red Jeep at 4am by myself and I kinda saw a cop way back behind me. I was dead sober. I actually feel asleep on GFs sofa on a Thursday watching a movie and was driving home cause I had work the next day

As I approached the county line an unmarked car came out of now here cut me off and the cop car behind boxes me in.

Cop comes out with gun puts it towards my head yells put hand in dashboard don’t move Fing hands and a third cop car boxes me in one left side.

I stay quite hand in dash. Finally he puts gun away.

Turns out someone carjacked same exact Jeep I had same color with a discription of single man age late 20s.

As I was approaching county line unless in hot pursuit could not follow and was running plates when he pulled me over.

I would have been shot of did not follow directions.

Exactly - follow police directions. You wont get hurt. It's so GD simple it's painful.

What about Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean?

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Twitter and mainstream media has convinced you that you know what is really going on. You have NO IDEA

Why do you keep calling it cherry picking. People are stating absolutes. Follow the rules and you won't be killed. Pointing out lies isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out that someone is wrong.

Here's a pro tip for people whose knowledge of law enforcement is limited to angrily searching up stuff on the internet. The reason this is a big case is because there are a million cops who take people into custody on a daily basis without incident. You will never see the thousands of incidents where officers use force responsibly or don't use sufficient force, which is also a problem.

A million?
No.
What we know is 1/100 use force and that’s too much.

What percentage of apprehended people are potentially violent or acting aggressive or may flee, ie out of control?

Like people having a diabetic attack?

[Anonymous]

We are only seeing the most egregious police brutality attacks picked up by the news. all the incidents of a kick or a punch, swipe with a baton or hitting your head when they put you in the car whether on video or not don’t make the national news. It’s ignorant to think that these incident are isolated to the few picked up in national news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are only seeing the most egregious police brutality attacks picked up by the news. all the incidents of a kick or a punch, swipe with a baton or hitting your head when they put you in the car whether on video or not don’t make the national news. It’s ignorant to think that these incident are isolated to the few picked up in national news.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are only seeing the most egregious police brutality attacks picked up by the news. all the incidents of a kick or a punch, swipe with a baton or hitting your head when they put you in the car whether on video or not don’t make the national news. It’s ignorant to think that these incident are isolated to the few picked up in national news.

and a little extra kick to the ribs of someone who resists and fights the police isn't the same thing as a beat down like you saw last night. I have a feeling nobody on this board has ever lived in the hood back in the day or had any parents/grandparents who were cops. You don't know how good you've got it. You ran from the cops back then and you were pretty much guaranteed to get your ass kicked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are only seeing the most egregious police brutality attacks picked up by the news. all the incidents of a kick or a punch, swipe with a baton or hitting your head when they put you in the car whether on video or not don’t make the national news. It’s ignorant to think that these incident are isolated to the few picked up in national news.

and a little extra kick to the ribs of someone who resists and fights the police isn't the same thing as a beat down like you saw last night. I have a feeling nobody on this board has ever lived in the hood back in the day or had any parents/grandparents who were cops. You don't know how good you've got it. You ran from the cops back then and you were pretty much guaranteed to get your ass kicked.

Murdered?

[Anonymous]

We need police reform. Brookings made the following bipartisan recommendations based on research from both sides of the aisle (in 2021):

Short-Term Reforms

Reform Qualified Immunity
Create National Standards for Training and De-escalation

Medium-Term Reforms

Restructure Civilian Payouts for Police Misconduct
Address Officer Wellness

Long-Term Reforms

Restructure Regulations for Fraternal Order of Police Contracts
Change Police Culture to Protect Civilians and Police


We know what needs to be done…we just need to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are only seeing the most egregious police brutality attacks picked up by the news. all the incidents of a kick or a punch, swipe with a baton or hitting your head when they put you in the car whether on video or not don’t make the national news. It’s ignorant to think that these incident are isolated to the few picked up in national news.

and a little extra kick to the ribs of someone who resists and fights the police isn't the same thing as a beat down like you saw last night. I have a feeling nobody on this board has ever lived in the hood back in the day or had any parents/grandparents who were cops. You don't know how good you've got it. You ran from the cops back then and you were pretty much guaranteed to get your ass kicked.

In 1979 some police in Maryland decided to administer just such an ask kicking to a 15 year old after they took him in for suspicion of larceny. The event ended with two dead police, shot with one of their own guns.

The time for the fabled street Justice “ass kicking” by the police is long past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need police reform. Brookings made the following bipartisan recommendations based on research from both sides of the aisle (in 2021):

Short-Term Reforms

Reform Qualified Immunity
Create National Standards for Training and De-escalation

Medium-Term Reforms

Restructure Civilian Payouts for Police Misconduct
Address Officer Wellness

Long-Term Reforms

Restructure Regulations for Fraternal Order of Police Contracts
Change Police Culture to Protect Civilians and Police


We know what needs to be done…we just need to do it.

These sound very sensible. Good to know there was bipartisan agreement on these measures.

I hope the political will to make these reforms happen.