The PG Pool is racist [MD]

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Anonymous wrote:Umm. It’s not a county pool. Anyone can sign up to join. I understand the racist history from 50+ years ago, but there are no legacy memberships handed down. Are there no publicly available county pools in the area? We live in DC and used to go to the indoor splash park in PG when our kids were little, paying the nonresident fees.

The pool is on public land.

It is not on public land.

The land the pool sits on was formerly public land that was provided for free to create an intentionally discriminatory pool community that excluded Black members.

Correct. The ‘Board of County Commissioners for Prince George’s County” sold over 6 acres of land to the PGP in 1956 for $10.

Considering that the pool is so well off now, I think they should make a significant financial payment to the county to repay the debt to county taxpayers.

???? It was *sold*… what debt?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, the answer to the pool not being accessible to poor people is to raise the taxes on the pool, making it more expensive for people and therefore more exclusive. That is some seriously convoluted logic.

No, the logic is to build a new pool that is more accessible to everyone. You are probably from DC and don't want to pay more. Also, aren't there tons of threads of PGP members telling non-members to "build a new pool?" lol

I don’t belong to this pool or live in the area but it is a ridiculously stupid statement to say the county should increase taxes specifically just on this pool in order to fund the county service of building a new one. Taxes get spread out across the tax base not levied as a penalty in a single business

Shhh! I was delighting in stupidity of this idea.

No way this could be done at the county level. A city could, however, do this and call it an environmental impact tax or something. No personal angle for me since I live in nova but it sounds like the members are REALLY pissing off the locals, so they may want to knock it off or face some kind of retaliatory tax dressed up as something else.

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Here's the thing- the pool is right on the border of DC. If you made the radius for membership one mile around the pool, DC residents would still be eligible. 2 miles would get well into DC and well into montgomery county

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Anonymous wrote:So, the answer to the pool not being accessible to poor people is to raise the taxes on the pool, making it more expensive for people and therefore more exclusive. That is some seriously convoluted logic.

No, the logic is to build a new pool that is more accessible to everyone. You are probably from DC and don't want to pay more. Also, aren't there tons of threads of PGP members telling non-members to "build a new pool?" lol

I don’t belong to this pool or live in the area but it is a ridiculously stupid statement to say the county should increase taxes specifically just on this pool in order to fund the county service of building a new one. Taxes get spread out across the tax base not levied as a penalty in a single business

Shhh! I was delighting in stupidity of this idea.

No way this could be done at the county level. A city could, however, do this and call it an environmental impact tax or something. No personal angle for me since I live in nova but it sounds like the members are REALLY pissing off the locals, so they may want to knock it off or face some kind of retaliatory tax dressed up as something else.[/quote


No. You can’t target a single entity like that. Are all pools impacting the environment. Fine, tax them. But you can’t say, we don’t like you because your waitlist is too long and you have a dubious history. Here’s a special tax!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, the answer to the pool not being accessible to poor people is to raise the taxes on the pool, making it more expensive for people and therefore more exclusive. That is some seriously convoluted logic.

No, the logic is to build a new pool that is more accessible to everyone. You are probably from DC and don't want to pay more. Also, aren't there tons of threads of PGP members telling non-members to "build a new pool?" lol

I don’t belong to this pool or live in the area but it is a ridiculously stupid statement to say the county should increase taxes specifically just on this pool in order to fund the county service of building a new one. Taxes get spread out across the tax base not levied as a penalty in a single business

Shhh! I was delighting in stupidity of this idea.

No way this could be done at the county level. A city could, however, do this and call it an environmental impact tax or something. No personal angle for me since I live in nova but it sounds like the members are REALLY pissing off the locals, so they may want to knock it off or face some kind of retaliatory tax dressed up as something else.[/quote


No. You can’t target a single entity like that. Are all pools impacting the environment. Fine, tax them. But you can’t say, we don’t like you because your waitlist is too long and you have a dubious history. Here’s a special tax!!!!

Correct, but one could structure an "environmental tax" with specific constraints that target large pools (ones that hold x number of gallons or sq ft in size). My guess is there aren't a whole lot of large pools in this city, but correct me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Umm. It’s not a county pool. Anyone can sign up to join. I understand the racist history from 50+ years ago, but there are no legacy memberships handed down. Are there no publicly available county pools in the area? We live in DC and used to go to the indoor splash park in PG when our kids were little, paying the nonresident fees.

The pool is on public land.

It is not on public land.

The land the pool sits on was formerly public land that was provided for free to create an intentionally discriminatory pool community that excluded Black members.

Correct. The ‘Board of County Commissioners for Prince George’s County” sold over 6 acres of land to the PGP in 1956 for $10.

Considering that the pool is so well off now, I think they should make a significant financial payment to the county to repay the debt to county taxpayers.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I deeply hate the pool because I will never get off the waitlist.


But should I ever get off the waitlist, I am excited to become a member.

What if we had an indoor pool like Greenbelt that everyone could use all year round? I bet the towns along Route 1 could all chip in for that.

It’s called Rollingcrest-Chillum pool.

https://www.pgparks.com/4543/Rollingcrest-Chillum-Splash-Pool

that's a nice pool. you should try it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Build a new one then.

Watching the PG Pool meltdown is amazing. Members tell locals to build their own and then balk at the suggestion of locals taxing them to build their own.

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Anonymous wrote:Build a new one then.

Watching the PG Pool meltdown is amazing. Members tell locals to build their own and then balk at the suggestion of locals taxing them to build their own.

Not much of a reader are you?

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Anonymous wrote:Build a new one then.

Watching the PG Pool meltdown is amazing. Members tell locals to build their own and then balk at the suggestion of locals taxing them to build their own.

Not much of a reader are you?

The trills have nudged this thread to 35 pages. They are reading you just fine.

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Trolls

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Anonymous wrote:Build a new one then.

Watching the PG Pool meltdown is amazing. Members tell locals to build their own and then balk at the suggestion of locals taxing them to build their own.

I do not read the members melting down. I see many others getting themselves all worked up about a private pool, perhaps because they have nothing else to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm. It’s not a county pool. Anyone can sign up to join. I understand the racist history from 50+ years ago, but there are no legacy memberships handed down. Are there no publicly available county pools in the area? We live in DC and used to go to the indoor splash park in PG when our kids were little, paying the nonresident fees.

The pool is on public land.

It is not on public land.

The land the pool sits on was formerly public land that was provided for free to create an intentionally discriminatory pool community that excluded Black members.

Correct. The ‘Board of County Commissioners for Prince George’s County” sold over 6 acres of land to the PGP in 1956 for $10.

Considering that the pool is so well off now, I think they should make a significant financial payment to the county to repay the debt to county taxpayers.

+1

What debt?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Umm. It’s not a county pool. Anyone can sign up to join. I understand the racist history from 50+ years ago, but there are no legacy memberships handed down. Are there no publicly available county pools in the area? We live in DC and used to go to the indoor splash park in PG when our kids were little, paying the nonresident fees.

The pool is on public land.

It is not on public land.

The land the pool sits on was formerly public land that was provided for free to create an intentionally discriminatory pool community that excluded Black members.

Correct. The ‘Board of County Commissioners for Prince George’s County” sold over 6 acres of land to the PGP in 1956 for $10.

Considering that the pool is so well off now, I think they should make a significant financial payment to the county to repay the debt to county taxpayers.

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What debt?

The free land that the county gave them to create an intentionally racially segregated pool in the 50s. How much is that unimproved land worth now? That’s how much the PG Pool owes as a debt to PG County. Otherwise, what is happening now is a continued subsidy from PG County tax payers to this pool which isn’t right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. It’s not a county pool. Anyone can sign up to join. I understand the racist history from 50+ years ago, but there are no legacy memberships handed down. Are there no publicly available county pools in the area? We live in DC and used to go to the indoor splash park in PG when our kids were little, paying the nonresident fees.

The pool is on public land.

It is not on public land.

The land the pool sits on was formerly public land that was provided for free to create an intentionally discriminatory pool community that excluded Black members.

Correct. The ‘Board of County Commissioners for Prince George’s County” sold over 6 acres of land to the PGP in 1956 for $10.

How many millions should the PG Pool owe PG County taxpayers for this?