Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Europe doesn’t need to enable these Ukrainian draft dodgers cowardice.

But Europe needs to enable the cowardice of all the fighting age males from Africa and the Middle East?

C’mon, they’re helping Zelenskyy! Didn’t he complain about this a while back?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Explain the logic where you give a country billions of dollars to fight a particular war with your right hand, and providing shelter for fighting-age males from that country with your left hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Europe doesn’t need to enable these Ukrainian draft dodgers cowardice.

But Europe needs to enable the cowardice of all the fighting age males from Africa and the Middle East?

Europe isn't funding wars in their countries with a particular outcome in mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Europe doesn’t need to enable these Ukrainian draft dodgers cowardice.

But Europe needs to enable the cowardice of all the fighting age males from Africa and the Middle East?

C’mon, they’re helping Zelenskyy! Didn’t he complain about this a while back?

I was always amused by that spelling. It's like he's a Tiphany of Eastern Europe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Europe doesn’t need to enable these Ukrainian draft dodgers cowardice.

But Europe needs to enable the cowardice of all the fighting age males from Africa and the Middle East?

Europe isn't funding wars in their countries with a particular outcome in mind.

Haven’t we been hearing for years about the refugees fleeing war in Libya (which US/EU forces were involved) and Syria (in which US forces are still active) and a bunch of other places where US and the EU are involved with a particular outcome in mind?

How is it fair to force Ukrainian male refugees fleeing violence and war back to Ukraine, while accepting male refugees from Africa and the Middle East instead of sending them back to fight in their nation’s battles?

Is being a man and taking responsibility for fighting for and sorting out your own country’s violent struggles only a value we expect one group of people to have, but not others?

Because the unending flood of “refugees” we’ve been seeing for years now are all fighting age men we are told are “fleeing violence” in their home countries …. 🤔

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Explain the logic where you give a country billions of dollars to fight a particular war with your right hand, and providing shelter for fighting-age males from that country with your left hand.

It’s the law - a nation must treat people fleeing violence and war equally, regardless of whether for geopolitical reasons said nation is sending arms to the country they’re fleeing from.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand what he means here. Is he low-key threatening a mutiny if EU doesn't do exactly as he asks?

In addition, in an interview with "Economist", Zelensky assessed that the reduction of Western aid may cause an unpredictable reaction of Ukrainian refugees in Europe, writes Sputnik.

"A reduction in aid will create risks for the West in its own backyard. It is impossible to predict how millions of Ukrainians in European countries will react to the fact that their country will be rejected," the Ukrainian leader emphasized.

According to him, his fellow citizens, in general, "behaved well" and "are very grateful" to the countries that received them. "But this will not be a 'good story' for Europe, if these people are 'backed into a corner'," concluded Zelensky. He also pointed out that he began to doubt the sincerity of the Western partners who claim that they will always support the country.

Seriously? The Ukrainians in Europe are hiding and avoiding service. The women I’m sure will remain because they are marrying and building lives in their new homelands but if there are male Ukrainians in the Europe they need to be deported back so they can fight. Zelensky is doing a ton of harm to Ukraine himself with comments like this.

Since when do male refugees get rounded up and sent back to the violence they are fleeing? Because I’m pretty sure boatloads of fighting age males are arriving in Europe and claiming refugee status on the daily.

Because they want some people to die, and other people to replace them. Its really that simple.

How ironic.

[Anonymous]

The point is did one, two or 300 Russians die today in Ukraine?

I am guessing closer to 300 or more. Keep sending money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point is did one, two or 300 Russians die today in Ukraine?

I am guessing closer to 300 or more. Keep sending money.

Playing moral high ground? Too funny. The Russians sealed their fate with using incendiaries to burn down civilian cities like Bakhmut, kidnapping tens of thousands of children, raping hundreds, murdering who knows how many??

But Russia is paying the price now. And even if Russia completely walks away from Ukraine tomorrow, it won't matter. What happens when Russia appears weak in front of the Chinese? Or even their own Republics? And neighboring countries?

"On Tuesday, emboldened by events, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev ordered the offensive, his troops quickly capturing key heights and strategic junctions in Nagorno-Karabakh. The separatists crumbled, agreeing to a ceasefire backed by Russian peacekeepers. Amid the violence at least two Russians were killed, reportedly including the deputy commander of Russia’s North Fleet submarine forces, Captain First Rank (Colonel) Ivan Kovgan, who was seconded to the region with Russian forces stretched desperately thin. Under the terms of the CSTO, any military aggression against one member is seen as an attack on all of them, just like NATO’s Article 5, but Russia did nothing to stop the latest incursion. In an interview earlier this month with Politico, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan spelled out clearly what was going on: Armenia could no longer rely on Moscow to guarantee its safety and had to assert its own independence. “As a result of the events in Ukraine, the capabilities of Russia have changed,” Pashinyan said. “We want to have an independent country, a sovereign country, but we have to have ways to avoid ending up in the center of clashes between West and East, North and South." It is clear that the bloodshed is not yet over. Thousands have joined protests on the streets of Yerevan this week to protest Pashinyan’s perceived desertion of Armenians inside Nagorno-Karabakh, known to Armenians as Artsakh. Despite the ceasefire, there are still reports of fighting in the mountainous region."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shockingly-quick-defeat-shows-putin-130451245.html

Again, once word spreads of the 200,000 certificates ordered by the Labor Ministry - who do you think the people will believe? Their local commissariat? Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The point is did one, two or 300 Russians die today in Ukraine?

I am guessing closer to 300 or more. Keep sending money.

Playing moral high ground? Too funny. The Russians sealed their fate with using incendiaries to burn down civilian cities like Bakhmut, kidnapping tens of thousands of children, raping hundreds, murdering who knows how many??

But Russia is paying the price now. And even if Russia completely walks away from Ukraine tomorrow, it won't matter. What happens when Russia appears weak in front of the Chinese? Or even their own Republics? And neighboring countries?

"On Tuesday, emboldened by events, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev ordered the offensive, his troops quickly capturing key heights and strategic junctions in Nagorno-Karabakh. The separatists crumbled, agreeing to a ceasefire backed by Russian peacekeepers. Amid the violence at least two Russians were killed, reportedly including the deputy commander of Russia’s North Fleet submarine forces, Captain First Rank (Colonel) Ivan Kovgan, who was seconded to the region with Russian forces stretched desperately thin. Under the terms of the CSTO, any military aggression against one member is seen as an attack on all of them, just like NATO’s Article 5, but Russia did nothing to stop the latest incursion. In an interview earlier this month with Politico, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan spelled out clearly what was going on: Armenia could no longer rely on Moscow to guarantee its safety and had to assert its own independence. “As a result of the events in Ukraine, the capabilities of Russia have changed,” Pashinyan said. “We want to have an independent country, a sovereign country, but we have to have ways to avoid ending up in the center of clashes between West and East, North and South." It is clear that the bloodshed is not yet over. Thousands have joined protests on the streets of Yerevan this week to protest Pashinyan’s perceived desertion of Armenians inside Nagorno-Karabakh, known to Armenians as Artsakh. Despite the ceasefire, there are still reports of fighting in the mountainous region."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shockingly-quick-defeat-shows-putin-130451245.html

Again, once word spreads of the 200,000 certificates ordered by the Labor Ministry - who do you think the people will believe? Their local commissariat? Good luck with that.

I do not read all that. I am a dumb American.

Russians dead = good.

I want to see more weapons, and (most importantly) more dead Russians for the investment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is did one, two or 300 Russians die today in Ukraine?

I am guessing closer to 300 or more. Keep sending money.

Playing moral high ground? Too funny. The Russians sealed their fate with using incendiaries to burn down civilian cities like Bakhmut, kidnapping tens of thousands of children, raping hundreds, murdering who knows how many??

But Russia is paying the price now. And even if Russia completely walks away from Ukraine tomorrow, it won't matter. What happens when Russia appears weak in front of the Chinese? Or even their own Republics? And neighboring countries?

"On Tuesday, emboldened by events, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev ordered the offensive, his troops quickly capturing key heights and strategic junctions in Nagorno-Karabakh. The separatists crumbled, agreeing to a ceasefire backed by Russian peacekeepers. Amid the violence at least two Russians were killed, reportedly including the deputy commander of Russia’s North Fleet submarine forces, Captain First Rank (Colonel) Ivan Kovgan, who was seconded to the region with Russian forces stretched desperately thin. Under the terms of the CSTO, any military aggression against one member is seen as an attack on all of them, just like NATO’s Article 5, but Russia did nothing to stop the latest incursion. In an interview earlier this month with Politico, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan spelled out clearly what was going on: Armenia could no longer rely on Moscow to guarantee its safety and had to assert its own independence. “As a result of the events in Ukraine, the capabilities of Russia have changed,” Pashinyan said. “We want to have an independent country, a sovereign country, but we have to have ways to avoid ending up in the center of clashes between West and East, North and South." It is clear that the bloodshed is not yet over. Thousands have joined protests on the streets of Yerevan this week to protest Pashinyan’s perceived desertion of Armenians inside Nagorno-Karabakh, known to Armenians as Artsakh. Despite the ceasefire, there are still reports of fighting in the mountainous region."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shockingly-quick-defeat-shows-putin-130451245.html

Again, once word spreads of the 200,000 certificates ordered by the Labor Ministry - who do you think the people will believe? Their local commissariat? Good luck with that.

Wait, what? You support the Artsakh cause? I thought you were all about territorial integrity? Karabakh IS part of Azerbaijan, you know. Oh, you saying it should be independent just because it is populated entirely by ethnic Armenians who do not want to live under Azeri rule on account of some very unpleasant genocidal memories?

In that case, know this: Ukraine applauded Azerbaijan when it attacked Karabakh in 2020 and when it "recovered" its land. I mean Ukraine should be happy Azeris have regained what's theirs, no? Who cares if a few thousand Armenians are slaughtered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Under the terms of the CSTO, any military aggression against one member is seen as an attack on all of them, just like NATO’s Article 5, but Russia did nothing to stop the latest incursion. In an interview earlier this month with Politico, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan spelled out clearly what was going on: Armenia could no longer rely on Moscow to guarantee its safety and had to assert its own independence.

You're lying. Or perhaps more charitably, you're ignorant.

There was no military aggression against any one member of the CSTO. Karabakh is Azerbaijan, right? Ukraine said so. Azerbaijan can mount as many incursions into its own land as it wishes, isn't that so? Which member of the CSTO has been attacked and by whom?

What a moron.

[Anonymous]

Some weirdo is jerking off about killing people.

[Anonymous]

yes, bloodthirsty illiberal. we’re still going to Russian school of mathematics since public schools detracked, sorry not sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some weirdo is jerking off about killing people.

Wonder if it was the same guy that was dreaming of poisoning their water supply.

Seems like all the sane people are backing away from Ukraine, leaving the crazies much more visible.