Anonymous wrote:First time opening this thread and what strikes me is the incessant and childish bickering. A lot of you need hobbies and a therapist.
Money is being raised for WABA. Whatever keeps it going . . .
Wait! Why does WABA need to raise even more money? Isn't the considerable subsidy that WABA receives from the DC government to lobby for bike lanes enough for them?!
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
Quite the word salad. Did you have a stroke while writing this?
Sorry. I will only type short sentences. I know reading comprehension starts to deteriorate with age after 65.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
..Which is why it makes no sense why the PP decided to say that the other PP was the one transgender commissioner in the whole area?
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Our local businesses are still struggling. Arrogant ANC commissioners literally flipping off a business with which they disagree on a policy issue and then Tweeting (X'ing?) the photo -- it's stupid and troubling.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Our local businesses are still struggling. Arrogant ANC commissioners literally flipping off a business with which they disagree on a policy issue and then Tweeting (X'ing?) the photo -- it's stupid and troubling.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Our local businesses are still struggling. Arrogant ANC commissioners literally flipping off a business with which they disagree on a policy issue and then Tweeting (X'ing?) the photo -- it's stupid and troubling.
Pretty sure they were flipping off the ANTI BIKE LANE SIGN in the window, not the business itself.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Our local businesses are still struggling. Arrogant ANC commissioners literally flipping off a business with which they disagree on a policy issue and then Tweeting (X'ing?) the photo -- it's stupid and troubling.
Pretty sure they were flipping off the ANTI BIKE LANE SIGN in the window, not the business itself.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
Our local businesses are still struggling. Arrogant ANC commissioners literally flipping off a business with which they disagree on a policy issue and then Tweeting (X'ing?) the photo -- it's stupid and troubling.
Pretty sure they were flipping off the ANTI BIKE LANE SIGN in the window, not the business itself.
Anonymous wrote:Please no more scooters. They are the worst.
Well, no. Cars are the worst. If you object to people using scooters on the sidewalk, then you should support protected bike lanes for scooter users to use.
Sorry. If it has a motor, then it belongs with other motorized transportation.
So, on the sidewalk? With motorized wheelchairs?
Motorized wheelchairs don't tend to run down pedestrians. But I've seen scooters collide with pedestrians on sidewalks. Enough already!
You're right, we need protected bike lanes for scooter users to use. It will also reduce the number of drivers who run down pedestrians (and wheelchair users and scooter users and bicyclists and other motorists and parked cars and trees and bus shelters and houses and utility poles and traffic signals and stop signs and and and...), which is a far more significant problem.
The number of pedestrians who are run down by drivers is not much more than the number of Washingtonians who are eaten by great white sharks. The numbers are tiny.
What? No. In DC, just in 2023 through August 8, at least 397 pedestrians have been injured in car crashes (51 major injuries, 11 killed). Also injured in car crashes: at least 176 bicyclists (12 major injuries, 1 killed), 967 car passengers (44 major injuries, 6 killed), ~2,200 drivers (98 major injuries, 8 killed), and 178 "other" (3 motorcyclists and 2 scooter users killed).
Where? How many of these have been on Connecticut?
A crap load, actually. In the first four months of 2023, there have been forty-six reported crashes between Woodley Park and Chevy Chase DC — that’s one crash every 2.5 days.
46! Oh no! Whatever will we do?
We have 21,000 crimes so far this year, including 3,200 violent crimes.
What a ghoul you must be? A friend of mine in DC represents one of the major injuries to pedestrians. They were hit in the crosswalk, crossing on walk, by a driver who was turning right on red. Multiple broken bones, several days in the hospital, missed work (luckily they had sick leave they could use), physical therapy, still recovering mobility months later, bills - but sure, shark bites. Oh, and crime, can't forget crime.
And yet on another thread on this site, where people are complaining about DC having as many murders as Baltimore, and how there's an epidemic of black children shooting black children, you'll tell us how crime is overblown and rare and that's how cities are and if you don't like, move to the suburbs.
Racist.
Argue with yourself, if you want. Are murders a problem? Yes, murders are a problem - a very complicated one. Are traffic crashes a problem? Yes, traffic crashes are a problem - and we know how to prevent them, using multiple strategies, one of which is protected bike lanes.
Dress it up however you want, but it's rich white people from Ward 3 commandeering scarce public funds to subsidize their hobbies.
Bike lanes are not created for avid cyclists. Avid cyclists have no issue riding Conn Ave. Bike lanes are created for people who want it as a safe mode of transportation to get from one neighborhood to another to shop, go to school, etc.
Long and short is the more separate and safer feeling the infrastructure, the larger the potential rider pool is.
A lot of wishful thinking here. Bikes only appeal to a very small demographic. Most people think it's a wildly impractical way of getting around, as evident by our scarcely used bike lanes.
The vast majority of people are mode-agnostic. They will choose the fastest/easiest/cheapest mode available. If biking becomes easier, more people bike. If driving becomes harder, people take metro, or buses or bike, etc...
We've had bike lanes in this city for 15 years. If it was going to catch on, it would have caught on by now.
It has caught on. Please stop driving. You can't see.
Oh it's this guy. The one whose only response to people pointing out that hardly anyone uses the bike lanes is to weirdly suggest that they can't see. You're also the person who likens white people from Ward 3 who love bikes who are hated by everyone but their mothers to African Americans suffering from racial discrimination, right? Your arguments are super bad and oh so tone deaf. Keep it up.
I'm not a "guy," and if you can't see people using bike lanes, you can't see. And if you can't see, you need to stop driving. When is the last time you took a vision test?
To be more charitable, the best bike routes are the ones most separated from car traffic so its possible that someone who only drives will miss a lot of the growth. A driver would miss anyone on a trail for instance. A cycle track on a less travelled road would also be almost invisible to the average driver. And lastly, bikes take up a whole lot less space and generate a lot less noise than cars moving the same number of people, so they will not be as in your face as cars.
Bigots need no charity.
Look, I just got off my bike ride to work on Connecticut Avenue not long ago, and I am a strong supporter of the bike lanes. But it is ridiculous to say you can be bigoted against people on bikes. Bigotry as virtually anyone understands the term is an irrational/blanket dislike of people for some characteristic or background of theirs — you can be bigoted against people of a certain sex, certain gender, certain religion, certain race, etc. You cannot be bigoted against cyclists. For one thing, if we want to avoid the pernicious effects of this "bigotry," all we have to do is... get off the bike.
People can dislike cyclists and cycling, definitely, but let's not take this unnecessary detour into suggesting that there's prejudice involved or that cyclists are in any way a protected class or an oppressed minority.
That's silly, PP. A person can be bigoted about anything. It doesn't have to be an immutable characteristic or protected class. You can be bigoted about Audi drivers (jerks), or people who like pineapple on their pizza (immature), or West Virginians (hicks), or Princeton graduates (snobs), or Taylor Swift superfans (poseurs), or orthopedic surgeons (narcissists), or ... There is simply no other description than bigotry for the beliefs of the poster who has carried this thread on for 330 pages of hating "cyclists."
Cyclists think they're being discriminated against? OMG
Did your ban just expire or did you find a VPN?
I’d also like to know where you read anyone claiming that they are being discriminated against.
However what I do see are posters calling you out for spreading malicious stereotypes about other groups of people, something which falls well within the dictionary definition of bigotry.
That you fail to be able to distinguish between the various different concepts is your own issue.
How MAGA of you. I'm sorry your hero is going to prison.
I assume that this is meant to be directed to the person posting alt-right cartoon strips.
White people who think they're the real victims are Trump's base.
Dumb boomers who still demand auto infrastructure at all costs while the world burns (hottest JULY in recorded history) and who get their nuts off in their disiel trucks rolling coal on cyclists and priuses voted for trump at a way higher rate.
I've never seen anyone in DC, rolling coal or not, in a diesel truck. This is so odd. It's almost as if they're entire policy ideology is based on trolling people in Mississippi.
As someone that neither lives in Mississippi nor cares about what people do in Mississippi this seems like a very stupid thing to base policy on.
The guy you're responding to is here all day every day. 90 percent of the posts on this thread were written by him. I think there's something wrong with him.
Don't misgender me.
Hi Commissioner!
I know this is hard for your privileged, white guy boomer mind to process, but Commisioner Gise doesn't even ride a bike, and probably hasn't nor will ever, visit DCUM.
Gise has done between zero and nothing for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue. One vote in support did not outdo her idiotic middle finger.
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