MCPS is no longer a desirable school district

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Montgomery County because of the schools, and now, we are moving out for the exact same reason. MCPS has been deteriorating on so many levels over the last decade. It feels like watching a car wreck in slow motion. Our kids deserve better.

MCPS is one of the 20 largest, most diverse (socioeconomically & ethnically) public school systems in the country. Everyone has a different experience. Too bad it didn't work out for you and your family.

I hope you're going to a smaller, generally all-around wealthy district.

For the record, we have been part of the school system for 10+ years and feel our kids have gotten a very good education and will be better prepared for college that most graduating seniors in the US.

I am asking genuinely, although it may come across as snarky or judgmental. I don't mean it to be. But what type of school are you in, and are your kids neurotypical? Because my son had experience in a Potomac middle school and did wonderfully, but switched to a much more economically diverse high school and it was a complete cluster ****. Kids who wanted to learn, who were set up by supportive, able parents to learn, just could not learn. Too much chaos, disrespect, disruption, and at times violence. I used to think a child could get a good education at any school. With the right approach and supports. But I've changed my mind. I'm just one experience in thousands and thousands. I know.

I just can't believe how bad the high school was. With staff and administration that cared and worked hard. This isn't about the teachers at all. It's the kids and whether they are being set up for success by the county-wide policies in place. I don't think they are.

Not one of the OP's but my kid is in an economically diverse HS and doing fine. Have they had to learn resilience, stick-to-it ness, and what it means to navigate a system? Absolutely. And those are life skills that will do them well.

Take a look a society at large and then take a look at the overall MoCO HS. Most often it's a mirror of society or better. I'm not sure why folks are expecting public school to be this place of nirvana.

My kid has learned resilience too, although it's not really the type I wanted him to learn. And I hope his high school experience does not mirror society.

He was assaulted four times in his freshman year. Assaulted once in sophomore. Got tough, and knows how to play the survival game now. He once said to me, "Mom, it's really weird that I know kids who have killed people." There are gangs in his school. Neighborhood gangs. Not much talk about MS13 or anything like that. But the neighborhood gangs are real. Not at school but two of his classmates were shot and survived (separate incidents). One was shot and killed. Two have been arrested for murder. (All of these have been reported in the local news). One classmate bragged about how his mom and his house got shot up, but the joke was on the shooters, because he and his mom had moved out a couple days before. hahahah. (That was not reported in the news, but I was able to confirm it through other methods.) He knows when someone is carrying a weapon in the school by their body language. By the way the square up for fights. Or don't. He got in trouble with some kids who threated to hurt his parents (me, obviously), which I didn't know until about a year later. But he knew that threat was real.

My son has graduated and I'm so grateful he is no longer in that environment. He is going to Montgomery College, and I hope that is better.

Sounds completely made up or not MCPS. Which school?

Here's one of the incidents I mentioned.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/wheaton-metro-homicide-emmanuel-simmonds-allegedly-shot-teen-victim-tenneson-leslie-in-head-as-he-was-fleeing-for-his-life/65-23201f62-3eb4-4f37-a6ee-c893521f5879

Ah yes. Magruder High School. Where MCPS had its first in-school shooting. Makes sense!

They've really put a lid on the behavioral issues over there post-shooting, haven't they?

People really need to stop phrasing it and harping on it as “Where MCPS had its first school shooting.” It’s terrible, YES, but did folks really believe that would never happen in MCPS?

What? We need to stop stating the fact that Magruder was the first time in MCPS's history that a shooting happened on school grounds? Why? Who does it serve by us not acknowledging reality?

You can acknowledge reality without making it seem like gross negligence or some abnormal operations allowed this to occur. The reality is that school shootings at the point are a part of American society whether we like it or not. And just because a shooting had never occurred in MCPS does not mean one would never occur, in fact just the opposite. The point is that MCPS is not some invisible bubble that was never going to be penetrated.

You still did not answer my question: Who are we serving and benefiting by downplaying the significance and severity of Magruder with the framing you are proposing?

I do not believe it is parents, teachers or students. And I am not sure why you are so willing and eager to hold MCPS so blameless that you are stating, “ making it seem like gross negligence or some abnormal operations allowed this to occur.” Especially since the after-action report that MCPS itself did found that there were many missteps with how that situation was handled on their part.

It’s not about downplaying it’s about not overplaying. Most shootings are the first. So emphasizing that point in regards to is done intentionally to paint a very specific idea

You refused to acknowledge any of the points or the direct questions I raised, so we’re done here.

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Same school district in PA that Kobe Bryant graduated from. Look it up - higher rated in all aspects than any Maryland school district. MCPS blows.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Montgomery County because of the schools, and now, we are moving out for the exact same reason. MCPS has been deteriorating on so many levels over the last decade. It feels like watching a car wreck in slow motion. Our kids deserve better.

That's so weird; my DCC kids are getting a much better education today than I did 30 years ago at my school. I would say the exact opposite. Both placed in state level competitions and are in the magnets.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Montgomery County because of the schools, and now, we are moving out for the exact same reason. MCPS has been deteriorating on so many levels over the last decade. It feels like watching a car wreck in slow motion. Our kids deserve better.

MCPS is one of the 20 largest, most diverse (socioeconomically & ethnically) public school systems in the country. Everyone has a different experience. Too bad it didn't work out for you and your family.

I hope you're going to a smaller, generally all-around wealthy district.

For the record, we have been part of the school system for 10+ years and feel our kids have gotten a very good education and will be better prepared for college that most graduating seniors in the US.

I am asking genuinely, although it may come across as snarky or judgmental. I don't mean it to be. But what type of school are you in, and are your kids neurotypical? Because my son had experience in a Potomac middle school and did wonderfully, but switched to a much more economically diverse high school and it was a complete cluster ****. Kids who wanted to learn, who were set up by supportive, able parents to learn, just could not learn. Too much chaos, disrespect, disruption, and at times violence. I used to think a child could get a good education at any school. With the right approach and supports. But I've changed my mind. I'm just one experience in thousands and thousands. I know.

I just can't believe how bad the high school was. With staff and administration that cared and worked hard. This isn't about the teachers at all. It's the kids and whether they are being set up for success by the county-wide policies in place. I don't think they are.

Not one of the OP's but my kid is in an economically diverse HS and doing fine. Have they had to learn resilience, stick-to-it ness, and what it means to navigate a system? Absolutely. And those are life skills that will do them well.

Take a look a society at large and then take a look at the overall MoCO HS. Most often it's a mirror of society or better. I'm not sure why folks are expecting public school to be this place of nirvana.

My kid has learned resilience too, although it's not really the type I wanted him to learn. And I hope his high school experience does not mirror society.

He was assaulted four times in his freshman year. Assaulted once in sophomore. Got tough, and knows how to play the survival game now. He once said to me, "Mom, it's really weird that I know kids who have killed people." There are gangs in his school. Neighborhood gangs. Not much talk about MS13 or anything like that. But the neighborhood gangs are real. Not at school but two of his classmates were shot and survived (separate incidents). One was shot and killed. Two have been arrested for murder. (All of these have been reported in the local news). One classmate bragged about how his mom and his house got shot up, but the joke was on the shooters, because he and his mom had moved out a couple days before. hahahah. (That was not reported in the news, but I was able to confirm it through other methods.) He knows when someone is carrying a weapon in the school by their body language. By the way the square up for fights. Or don't. He got in trouble with some kids who threated to hurt his parents (me, obviously), which I didn't know until about a year later. But he knew that threat was real.

My son has graduated and I'm so grateful he is no longer in that environment. He is going to Montgomery College, and I hope that is better.

Sounds completely made up or not MCPS. Which school?

Here's one of the incidents I mentioned.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/wheaton-metro-homicide-emmanuel-simmonds-allegedly-shot-teen-victim-tenneson-leslie-in-head-as-he-was-fleeing-for-his-life/65-23201f62-3eb4-4f37-a6ee-c893521f5879

Ah yes. Magruder High School. Where MCPS had its first in-school shooting. Makes sense!

They've really put a lid on the behavioral issues over there post-shooting, haven't they?

People really need to stop phrasing it and harping on it as “Where MCPS had its first school shooting.” It’s terrible, YES, but did folks really believe that would never happen in MCPS?

What? We need to stop stating the fact that Magruder was the first time in MCPS's history that a shooting happened on school grounds? Why? Who does it serve by us not acknowledging reality?

You can acknowledge reality without making it seem like gross negligence or some abnormal operations allowed this to occur. The reality is that school shootings at the point are a part of American society whether we like it or not. And just because a shooting had never occurred in MCPS does not mean one would never occur, in fact just the opposite. The point is that MCPS is not some invisible bubble that was never going to be penetrated.

You still did not answer my question: Who are we serving and benefiting by downplaying the significance and severity of Magruder with the framing you are proposing?

I do not believe it is parents, teachers or students. And I am not sure why you are so willing and eager to hold MCPS so blameless that you are stating, “ making it seem like gross negligence or some abnormal operations allowed this to occur.” Especially since the after-action report that MCPS itself did found that there were many missteps with how that situation was handled on their part.

It’s not about downplaying it’s about not overplaying. Most shootings are the first. So emphasizing that point in regards to is done intentionally to paint a very specific idea

You refused to acknowledge any of the points or the direct questions I raised, so we’re done here.

What point is that? Did I ever indicate that MCPS should not be held accountable for not following their processes? NO. I said folks should stop with there framing of painting the geyser shooting with the phrase “first ever” as though that somehow matters. Any rationale security expert would tell you that given the US landscape it wasn’t a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN MCPS would have a school shooting.

Is that a sad and somber reality? YES, but it’s still reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please, this again. Just leave. There are plenty staying and plenty doing well and going to top schools.

Bye bye!

I don’t live in the county, just doing a quick perusal of this thread, but man, you are a clown for your series of “bye” posts, which contribute nothing to the conversation.

You might want to get outside and touch some grass.

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Anonymous wrote:Same school district in PA that Kobe Bryant graduated from. Look it up - higher rated in all aspects than any Maryland school district. MCPS blows.

You do realize he grew up on the main line which is one of the wealthiest, least diverse areas of the country? Their FARMS rate is a fourth of MCPS’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Move out if state if you don’t like MCPS

Alabama and Missouri actually most red states have crap educations all run by republicans and have been for over 30 years zero improvement

When you say MCPS sucks find your alternative red states are for you idiots .

You see the education level
In red states is so low they keep voting in the same crap that Lewis them
In the bottom ranking and you complainers are right their dummies. Please move your lack of education shows . You will be happier with less educated adults and services

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Go to Oklahoma! They are teaching the election was stolen in 2020 and the Ten Commandments.

There are 49 states to choose from. Let me know where there is a better public school system. I’ll wait ……

Boston public schools are fantastic

All of the Boston forums say the exact opposite. They are going way, way downhill just like the DMV area schools. Riding on their reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:In the case of Whitman, the education isn’t very good and there is so much grade inflation that they often get into colleges they can’t handle academically.

Everyone at Whitman ends up going to a 4 year college, sometimes they go to elite colleges. Never in my life have I ever known someone who graduated from Whitman and either didn’t go to college or went to community college (Montgomery college)

That's not what the PP said, read better. I know of 2 Whitman grads who dropped out of university. One joined the military and the other became a fireman and are happy with their choices.

DP. Even Whitman's own school profile shows 4% of seniors go to 2-year colleges and 6% do not go to college.

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I think all 4 W schools should leave MoCo schools and be their own independent high schools supported by residents of those areas.

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Anonymous wrote:I think all 4 W schools should leave MoCo schools and be their own independent high schools supported by residents of those areas.

Typical white flight and segregation behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:I think all 4 W schools should leave MoCo schools and be their own independent high schools supported by residents of those areas.

Those schools would be great if they completely axed all the wokeness stuff

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Anonymous wrote:In the case of Whitman, the education isn’t very good and there is so much grade inflation that they often get into colleges they can’t handle academically.

Everyone at Whitman ends up going to a 4 year college, sometimes they go to elite colleges. Never in my life have I ever known someone who graduated from Whitman and either didn’t go to college or went to community college (Montgomery college)

That's not what the PP said, read better. I know of 2 Whitman grads who dropped out of university. One joined the military and the other became a fireman and are happy with their choices.

DP. Even Whitman's own school profile shows 4% of seniors go to 2-year colleges and 6% do not go to college.

Link?

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It's desirable if your kid is a gangsta and everyone can blame the teachers instead of the gangs or the admin that supports covering them up.

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Anonymous wrote:In the case of Whitman, the education isn’t very good and there is so much grade inflation that they often get into colleges they can’t handle academically.

Everyone at Whitman ends up going to a 4 year college, sometimes they go to elite colleges. Never in my life have I ever known someone who graduated from Whitman and either didn’t go to college or went to community college (Montgomery college)

That's not what the PP said, read better. I know of 2 Whitman grads who dropped out of university. One joined the military and the other became a fireman and are happy with their choices.

DP. Even Whitman's own school profile shows 4% of seniors go to 2-year colleges and 6% do not go to college.

Link?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jPaF7kQ1nUdfsODVwh-U4sesYZYn3y0s/view?usp=sharing

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The sky is falling!